Prime crotch
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"stop triggering me!!" - this statement said by certain folk is ridiculous
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No it's not. Common misconception, words don't work like that, you can't own them. I can make up whatever definition no matter how arbitrary all that matters is how many people understand it (are you "salty" about that?). Since the internet has already decided that launching tirades falls under the definition of "triggering" I don't see how that wouldn't or how that wouldn't fall under understandable use. You may find it devaluing but that doesn't matter, language is fluid like that.
Photolysis
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That's exactly the sort of 'real' trigger I think deserves compassion and understanding. It also makes perfect sense just how the noise of say fireworks could have such an impact on your friend.
The problem is when you discuss something in the abstract, and yet are still expected by some to preface it with trigger warnings. Not only is this unworkable since there are so many topics that could potentially be a trigger, but if someone is triggered by mere words alone then how can they possibly function in society? There might be some rare exceptions, but for the most part it's impossible to cater to such hypersensitive individuals.
Take a military veteran with PTSD. Imagine if any discussion on the military, firearms, explosives, terrorism, bombs, war, deserts, the Middle East, and so on, regardless of context, required a warning. Imagine if everyone had to be on tiptoes around these subjects... it would render these things almost impossible to discuss, when they're important to foreign policy, national security, etc. and are things that a modern society would both expect and need to talk about.
Now consider the news. They'll often say when some particularly graphic and/or disturbing content is about to be shown, and it makes complete sense how say a footage of a warzone or a victim of a terrible crime could trigger some reaction in those who've unfortunately experienced such a thing before. If they had to give warnings simply for discussing such things (i.e. regular news), most of the program would comprise of warnings to those who might be sensitive.
ultratruman
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What if people telling me to use trigger warnings is my trigger?
Earthpainting
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It's a bit misguided, but I don't think it comes from a malicious place. I think part of it is that people shape their identity and hobby around a cause or community. Serious jargon can get stretched a bit in order to relate and feel like you belong more. I can't really say I've seen a lot of adults egregiously misuse this particular term.
I can see how it may be a bit exhausting or annoying to the purists or people those lives are closer to the actual meaning behind the words though.
I can see how it may be a bit exhausting or annoying to the purists or people those lives are closer to the actual meaning behind the words though.
NekoFever
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I think the mentalities are quite similar. It's a useful thing that's suffered from creep that's taken it to ridiculous extremes to the point where people don't take it seriously any more.
Is that true though? If I said I was a PTSD vet and loud noise disturb me and give me painful flashbacks do you think most people would say "lol, yeah right, let's set off some fireworks." I don't think most would. Do you think most people don't believe it when people online complain they can't see gore without becoming really queazy? I don't think that's true either, they might be an asshole and post things without warning anyway but that's different than not taking it seriously.
I've always had issues with fireworks, balloon pops and other loud noises sending me into panic attacks. At one point it was so bad that flashes of light would set me off. I used to have to have trigger warnings.
I do understand some trigger warnings, for violent stuff and such.
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Some people are just assholes. I remember one 4th of july I was at a party and some guy totally thought it was funny to randomly run outside and set off some fireworks every now and then to watch me flip out.
I do understand some trigger warnings, for violent stuff and such.
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Some people are just assholes. I remember one 4th of july I was at a party and some guy totally thought it was funny to randomly run outside and set off some fireworks every now and then to watch me flip out.
I've seen this before, but I have no idea who the heck that is.
Where's this from?
Right now I have a feeling all of this stuff is kind of like a subculture thing. Part of the Tumbler community tries to make themselves special by making all of the baggage they carry part of their identity.
But it can't be healthy living all day with the thought that anything can trigger or offend you. I think a lot of these people seek out these things to be triggered or offended so they can talk about it within the community or on their blog.
Many people went through a lot of shit. Myself included. Anything from a movie to a conversation can bring back bad memmories. But so what? That's life. I don't live in the past and make the best of the future. It's more rewarding and less depressing that way imo.
But it can't be healthy living all day with the thought that anything can trigger or offend you. I think a lot of these people seek out these things to be triggered or offended so they can talk about it within the community or on their blog.
Many people went through a lot of shit. Myself included. Anything from a movie to a conversation can bring back bad memmories. But so what? That's life. I don't live in the past and make the best of the future. It's more rewarding and less depressing that way imo.
Dénouement
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I was just about to say that I've never seen/heard anyone say "trigger" like that before, but I just went on Facebook and this girl posted a huge essay about her views on feminism and preceded it with "This might trigger some people..." O__o
NekoFever
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I think people would take it seriously if you had PTSD and asked them not to do something, just like people wouldn't openly talk about the ending to a new movie if they knew you hadn't seen it.
But it is a problem when trigger warnings get associated with blog posts about colonialism, say, rather than a serious aspect of a serious mental health issue. Like how people think OCD means liking your DVDs in alphabetical order or Tourette's is a funny thing where you keep swearing.
Sheriff_Battlesnake
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As a recovering bulimic, I'd say triggers are real. I think the term is way overused to the point of barely meaning anything, but it is an appropriate term. I had a mild relapse the other day because someone said "what happened to all the weight you lost?" and that echoed in my head for like 2 hours until I just vommed to make my head shut up.
Triggers are weird.
Triggers are weird.
That's kind of a dick thing to ask someone...
Sheriff_Battlesnake
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Yeah. To be fair I've actually been stable for awhile, I was just wearing a husky leather jacket. Even KNOWING it wasn't a weight thing it still blew my mind up. People cope in strange ways. Anyway, he's an insecure guy who just dropped like 30 pounds but still has a ways to go until he's happy with his progress. I think insecurity likes company. But most of the time people don't recognize the consequences.
Anyway, that's my two cents!
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
I actually can relate to this, although I don't suffer from bulimia, I do have a bit of a body-image issue...
The other day a family friend of mine joked about me having a "gut", and I nearly burst into tears because I thought they were serious. Of course, I'm really skinny now...maybe a bit unhealthily so, but I guess that goes to show how what can seem irrational to one person may make sense to the person who gets upset by it. Everyone else knew the friend was joking, but it took me a second to realize it was sarcasm.
ShadowsFell
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As someone with PTSD, yes triggers are real.
pokeystaples
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My best friend is a vet. Triggers are very real. Movies, books, noises, certain comments. You never know what will be the thing that fucks everything up. This is not to say that they are not overused. I'm with Roxane Gay when it comes to triggers.
CalamityPixel
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Tumblr is the drama queen of the internet.
As someone who is into art, I can find it to be a great site when you stay close to communities that are within your interests.
But there is always a few individuals that stick out and shout "TRIGGERED!" to something silly e.g. Pomegranates.
These type of people are really bizarre when you look on their accounts.
As someone who is into art, I can find it to be a great site when you stay close to communities that are within your interests.
But there is always a few individuals that stick out and shout "TRIGGERED!" to something silly e.g. Pomegranates.
These type of people are really bizarre when you look on their accounts.
radios shipping overview
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What I don't understand is why some internet people feel like they're personally being inconvenienced when some other people in other, unrelated communities go out of their way to be nice and accommodate others.
Derekloffin
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Oh, they are definitely real. But, the question is, I think, do these trigger warnings actually overall help. Certain individuals might be helped, but it is looking a lot like this whole thing ends up, in a bigger community thanks to abuse, bad. I can't say for certain obviously, but just as certain as their are triggers there is also abuse of this system to turn it into hyper sensitivity and shut down discussion.
Basically, this is why we can't have good things, idiots ruin it for everyone. Don't know if we've actually hit that tipping point just yet, but we're getting there.
It's just a 4chan gif. She's supposed to be a "stereotypical feminist".
There's literally no connection, other than that people who ask for triggers are probably more likely to be aware of cisgenderism.
Same here. Which leads me to throw it into the pile of words that people use in order to further stuff a strawman with, like "femininazi" and "social justice warrior". At this point it's just a bunch of people who use it to make fun of people that they think exist even though they've never met them.
I also don't mean to discredit what the OP has encountered. I've just never met anybody use it other than people who make fun of feminism because they don't understand it.
Because for every person that tries to be nice there will always be someone who refuses to let themselves enjoy life while others are also doing so, and that the very act of trying to help people or being accommodating is a direct violation of their right to happiness. Thus we have a large group of people on the internet that accuse people of being "social justice warriors" as if being an advocate of social justice is a bad thing and that they deserve to be punished or at the very least belittled/ignored.
Tinfoilhatsron
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Nobody uses trigger warning here except for NSFW/NSFL? Is that what you mean?
/r/tumblrinaction
Was just about to post that. My current favorite sub reddit.
Sheriff_Battlesnake
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Yeah, I'm not really sure what it is. Even when you know better, the joke can still dig in. It's like the rational brain retreats and gives way to the irrational. Even when you can logic it away there is something about the crouching anxiety.
The examples are really comical, but I feel like the subreddit has gone the way many do. It reached critical mass, and while at first it was just snickering at people, now it is significantly more mean spirited and definitely makes sweeping assumptions about "SJW" from these examples. I think it kind of halts progress, though I'm not saying it can't be hilarious.
these people need to be ignored until they implode so the real spokespeople for their causes can be heard.
I frequently visit Themarysue.com and although I like what they're doing, the trigger warnings that come with a lot of their articles are kind of stupid in my opinion.
I mean, if you read the headline of an article then that most probably already tells you if you'll be pissed (triggered) or not. The only way I could see the trigger warning being effective is if you couldn't even see the headline before clicking on it (until you click it just reads "trigger warning"). And while noone should be forced to read about things that make them mad, this seems to be a form of hiding your head in the sand.
Ultimately, I think you have a problem if you're seriously "triggered" by news.
I mean, if you read the headline of an article then that most probably already tells you if you'll be pissed (triggered) or not. The only way I could see the trigger warning being effective is if you couldn't even see the headline before clicking on it (until you click it just reads "trigger warning"). And while noone should be forced to read about things that make them mad, this seems to be a form of hiding your head in the sand.
Ultimately, I think you have a problem if you're seriously "triggered" by news.
"Triggered" doesn't mean something makes you mad. It means it triggers psychological flashbacks that make you feel like you're still in a traumatic situation that could have happened years earlier, causes you to lash out at people because you consider them the cause of the trauma, and takes away your ability to make rational decisions because you blame yourself all over again.
In short, yes, people who are triggered by news have a problem. It's called PTSD.
eudaemonic
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The OP reminded me of this article. My dad was in Vietnam. You wanna talk about trigger warnings... watching him made me vow never to join the armed forces unless something happened I really believed in. That shit will fuck up every day of your life in the smallest ways. So when this whole overuse of "trigger warning" started up, it made me mad. I feel like it's come to the point where half the people using it don't really know what it means. These are the ones that have Christmas ruined because it wasn't the color iPhone they wanted or casually say fuck my life because the barista forgot foam on their drinks or because they were hit on by someone they were not attracted to, they feel violated.
Ugh.
Ugh.
Aliquidmeri
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Sheriff_Battlesnake
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Tumblr is fun
I hate to jump in here again. But I haven't weighed myself in a year because of those concerns being triggered. My mind just gets obsessive over stupid numbers. It seems in her case she can't ask to have the information withheld from her, as over a certain point leads to someone talking to you about it. (Recovering bulimic mentioned above)
I get the mentality of "just do something about it" but in the world of mental health and self worth, despression can be a hard thing to do anything productive during.
But I also understand that it's hard to understand who's full of shit and who's not. Idk. Be nice to each other, I guess.
CadetMahoney
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Isn't trigger being used incorrectly?
Isn't it supposed to be about abuse/rape victims and where it started and has been for a long time, not "this offends me". So when I see ppl joking about being "triggered" in a sarcastic manner I see it as ppl joking about rape and taking it lightly.
Or am I wrong here?
Isn't it supposed to be about abuse/rape victims and where it started and has been for a long time, not "this offends me". So when I see ppl joking about being "triggered" in a sarcastic manner I see it as ppl joking about rape and taking it lightly.
Or am I wrong here?
Fudgepuppy
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You are entirely correct.
It seems the concept has been taken over by people who wants a legitimate definition for their grievances.
If its said jokingly/sarcasticly it is making fun of people who use it seriously. But these people use the trigger expression to describe the the most rediculous shit and are serious about it. Comparing it to triggering surpressed rape experiences. Absolutely tasteless.
The jokes are about the people who've misappropriated it, not the people dealing with actual PTSD issues.
Sheriff_Battlesnake
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Or addiction. If you're in cocaine recovery and someone mentions cocaine then you're going to get obsessive about cocaine unless you practice some coping mechanisms that most people don't know.
It's definitely a circle jerk, and those tend to get mean spirited. I feel like this happens on both sides of the coin.
Sheriff_Battlesnake
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What is it with today's culture and polarity!
Microagression?
No wonder everyone says they've only seen triggering and the like used satirically and not genuinely. It's impossible to tell the difference.
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