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Kay Bee had a small store in my mall called 'Kay Bee Holiday' or something like that. Where it was only for a few months for the Holiday and then went away.
 
I feel bad about Borders closing, since brick and mortar books stores do a lot of things that online stores can't. But I also feel bad whenever I buy anything more than a mass market paperback there, because I know I could get it cheaper online. I really wish someone would come up with a business model that would let them run a store as large as Borders and consistently discount a little. Even if it wasn't as cheap as Amazon, if I knew I was only paying 1-2$ more instead of 10$ more, it would make all the difference.

I do try to buy MMP at B&M stores, though, since Amazon doesn't discount them.
 
I used to work for Virgin Megastores a few years ago and had my store closed down, but luckily enough i moved to a role in another store. Then the whole company rebranded to Zavvi and about a year later all the employees were told (on xmas eve no less) that the entire chain had gone into administration. It was a really horrible day - it's really not nice to watch your friends and colleagues break down into tears at the thought of what losing their jobs might mean. It was like a modern day xmas carol, only with no happy ending. Really wouldn't wish the experience upon anyone.
 
a friend of mine, who lives in the U.S. since a couple of years, claimed that many stores are closing while fast food chains pop out like mushrooms in fall.
is this true?
why?
 
iamaustrian said:
a friend of mine, who lives in the U.S. since a couple of years, claimed that many stores are closing while fast food chains pop out like mushrooms in fall.
is this true?
why?

Because "cheap" food is always in demand and the workforce is incredibly cheap.
 
Tarazet said:
And nothing of value was lost.

/still reeling from losing 4 out of the 6 Gamecrazies in the area.

Gamecrazy ruined there stores when they dropped classic gaming and tried to become Gamestop lite.
 
GodfatherX said:
no Toys R Us?

First I thought of. I know the one in my town survives entirely because of the holiday season. The other 9 months of the year its a ghost town. That and its run like shit.

wonkafest said:
I thought KB Toys went under years ago.

Same. The one in our mall closed shop 5+ years ago.
 
I like how they got Starbucks in the list but says it'll look for a strong economic recovery in 2010. Coffee shops aren't going anywhere as it is now the new luxurious things to do :lol
 
The nearest Blockbuster to me has already closed down.

One of Starbuck's mistakes was to put so many restrictions on free wi-fi access in their stores. With other coffee stores offering cheaper coffee and free wi-fi, who's going to want to go to Starbucks?
 
I do love large bookstores. I enjoy looking through shelves of books, but I really can't help but shop on Amazon. Their prices are cheaper and they have a much larger selection.

Borders had my BF's card on hold for three months for an Okami artbook. Amazon promptly delivered in under a week.
 
Toys r us is doing really well, all things considered. The company overall has been on a strong comeback for two years now. Inlcuding taking back some of the market from target/wal mart. Supposedly their going to be a public company again sometime this year.

Toys r us also owns KB now; so you may see it return in some capacity later in time.
 
I always thought starbucks was somewhat overrated because I mean anyone can make a coffee thar they make at home. Also other places make the same types of beverages at cheaper prices so it was bound to happen.
 
I work at a Borders and as far as I know the real crux of our failure lies in Waldens. Once all of those close a lot of the bigger Borders should be fine.

Not that I care, it's a shitty job anyway.
 
The bookstore in the mall I eat during lunch hours shut down. Man.. I was really bumped :(
I have been reading there for YEARS!
 
Belfast said:
So, basically, malls will be glorified Food Courts.

It's the malls charging outlandish prices for rent and fees that is really driving a lot of stores out of them. In the mall my Gamestop is in, it costs us 400$ an hour to have a midnight launch, for security. Or, really, for the mall to have a security guard sit in a booth down in their office while store employees handle everything.

In this same mall, a pizza place that had been there 10 years just closed. Their lease was up and the mall wanted to double it from 20Gs a month to 40Gs.
 
Torhthelm Tídwald said:
I feel bad about Borders closing, since brick and mortar books stores do a lot of things that online stores can't. But I also feel bad whenever I buy anything more than a mass market paperback there, because I know I could get it cheaper online. I really wish someone would come up with a business model that would let them run a store as large as Borders and consistently discount a little. Even if it wasn't as cheap as Amazon, if I knew I was only paying 1-2$ more instead of 10$ more, it would make all the difference.

I do try to buy MMP at B&M stores, though, since Amazon doesn't discount them.

It's hard to know if I should feel bad about this or not. Stores like Borders and Barnes & Noble helped bring about the death of the local bookstore, because they came in with cheaper prices and a bigger selection. Now, Amazon is killing them off by basically doing the exact same thing.

Same with Blockbuster. I can't feel bad about them going away because it was them that pretty much killed off the crazy local video stores that I used to love going to as a kid. They're having done to them what they did to other companies... thankfully by services such as Netflix which I find to be far, far better options.

Of course, there's then also another point of confusion for me in all of this: while I much prefer some of the online choices that have come along that are killing outlets such as this, in a way I'm helping to support a trend that could end up meaning the downfall of the brick & mortar experience. More and more, local shopping is feeling blander and blander, as different options go away and every block is a random selection of Wal-mart, Target, Best Buy, and things like that. As much as I may not feel too bad about places like Borders or Blockbuster going away, what is left in their place is even less local choices for places to shop for those times when browsing a web store isn't satisfying.

It's one of the things I really miss about my time in Japan and the wide selection of crazy local shops that were there waiting for me: going into stores and never being totally sure what I was going to end up finding there. Not saying that that world doesn't exist over here anymore, but I can't help but feel like we're getting closer and closer to a future where local options for shopping are just going to be the same small selection of options repeated over and over and over.
 
shidoshi said:
It's hard to know if I should feel bad about this or not. Stores like Borders and Barnes & Noble helped bring about the death of the local bookstore, because they came in with cheaper prices and a bigger selection. Now, Amazon is killing them off by basically doing the exact same thing.

Same with Blockbuster. I can't feel bad about them going away because it was them that pretty much killed off the crazy local video stores that I used to love going to as a kid. They're having done to them what they did to other companies... thankfully by services such as Netflix which I find to be far, far better options.

Of course, there's then also another point of confusion for me in all of this: while I much prefer some of the online choices that have come along that are killing outlets such as this, in a way I'm helping to support a trend that could end up meaning the downfall of the brick & mortar experience. More and more, local shopping is feeling blander and blander, as different options go away and every block is a random selection of Wal-mart, Target, Best Buy, and things like that. As much as I may not feel too bad about places like Borders or Blockbuster going away, what is left in their place is even less local choices for places to shop for those times when browsing a web store isn't satisfying.

It's one of the things I really miss about my time in Japan and the wide selection of crazy local shops that were there waiting for me: going into stores and never being totally sure what I was going to end up finding there. Not saying that that world doesn't exist over here anymore, but I can't help but feel like we're getting closer and closer to a future where local options for shopping are just going to be the same small selection of options repeated over and over and over.

wow..now i'm REALLY bumped out :(
 
Starbucks? I don't see that happening here. They're always packed and they're everywhere.

As for the others, the Blockbuster that was here like three years ago closed down and I haven't seen one around this area since the video stores here are just Hollywood Video. Borders I'm unsure about because I never shop there since Barnes & Noble are closer to me. It must be very horrible for all of these stores to be closing down especially for the employees too.
 
shidoshi said:
It's hard to know if I should feel bad about this or not. Stores like Borders and Barnes & Noble helped bring about the death of the local bookstore, because they came in with cheaper prices and a bigger selection. Now, Amazon is killing them off by basically doing the exact same thing.

Same with Blockbuster. I can't feel bad about them going away because it was them that pretty much killed off the crazy local video stores that I used to love going to as a kid. They're having done to them what they did to other companies... thankfully by services such as Netflix which I find to be far, far better options.

Of course, there's then also another point of confusion for me in all of this: while I much prefer some of the online choices that have come along that are killing outlets such as this, in a way I'm helping to support a trend that could end up meaning the downfall of the brick & mortar experience. More and more, local shopping is feeling blander and blander, as different options go away and every block is a random selection of Wal-mart, Target, Best Buy, and things like that. As much as I may not feel too bad about places like Borders or Blockbuster going away, what is left in their place is even less local choices for places to shop for those times when browsing a web store isn't satisfying.

It's one of the things I really miss about my time in Japan and the wide selection of crazy local shops that were there waiting for me: going into stores and never being totally sure what I was going to end up finding there. Not saying that that world doesn't exist over here anymore, but I can't help but feel like we're getting closer and closer to a future where local options for shopping are just going to be the same small selection of options repeated over and over and over.

I was being silly earlier, but this is what I fear, too. I already have few reasons to go to a mall. I don't go shopping for clothes very often, and usually when I'm tagging along with other people, I'll just peek my head inside the Gamestop and/or bookstore.

If these keeps happening I, literally, will have no reason to go to a traditional mall ever again.
 
x Power Pad Death Stomp x said:
It's the malls charging outlandish prices for rent and fees that is really driving a lot of stores out of them. In the mall my Gamestop is in, it costs us 400$ an hour to have a midnight launch, for security. Or, really, for the mall to have a security guard sit in a booth down in their office while store employees handle everything.

In this same mall, a pizza place that had been there 10 years just closed. Their lease was up and the mall wanted to double it from 20Gs a month to 40Gs.
Yep. I work in a mall that really isn't crowded, and they charge outrageous prices for rent. Nothing is surviving, especially now that the holiday season is over. The mall is a freaking ghost town.
 
red shoe paul said:
Kay Bee had a small store in my mall called 'Kay Bee Holiday' or something like that. Where it was only for a few months for the Holiday and then went away.

Because toy sales spike so much during the holiday season, KB opened a number of temporary holiday stores just for the end of the year. Toys R' US did the same thing at the end of 09 and had great success with it.
 
shidoshi said:
Same with Blockbuster. I can't feel bad about them going away because it was them that pretty much killed off the crazy local video stores that I used to love going to as a kid. They're having done to them what they did to other companies... thankfully by services such as Netflix which I find to be far, far better options.

For movies I don't care if it goes online all the way. It is actually easier to see if you would like a movie when shopping online, because you can look up reviews and trailers and such. With books, on the other hand, B&M lets you look at the book itself, any part of it you want, as much as you want, so it's a lot easier to tell if you'll like it or not.

What frustrates me is that I'm pretty sure that Borders could discount some if they wanted to, they just opted for rewards cards and coupons and stuff like that, which I think is hurting them. If it's choice between waiting for a coupon to show up in my email or just buying it on Amazon, I'll choose Amazon almost all the time.
 
This reminds me how many local stores and restaurants are closing round here thanks to the poor economy and Walgreens....seriously, I don't know how it is in the US but Walgreens is the equivalent of Starbucks here, there's one Walgreens in every corner and has seriously destroyed the local competition...it's really sad :(
 
Tamanon said:
Also, Radio Shack not on the list? BASTARDS!

I can never turn down an opportunity to post this article:

Even CEO Can't Figure Out How RadioShack Still In Business

FORT WORTH, TX—Despite having been on the job for nine months, RadioShack CEO Julian Day said Monday that he still has "no idea" how the home electronics store manages to stay open.

"There must be some sort of business model that enables this company to make money, but I'll be damned if I know what it is," Day said. "You wouldn't think that people still buy enough strobe lights and extension cords to support an entire nationwide chain, but I guess they must, or I wouldn't have this desk to sit behind all day."

The retail outlet boasts more than 6,000 locations in the United States, and is known best for its wall-sized displays of obscure-looking analog electronics components and its notoriously desperate, high-pressure sales staff. Nevertheless, it ranks as a Fortune 500 company, with gross revenues of over $4.5 billion and fiscal quarter earnings averaging tens of millions of dollars.

"Have you even been inside of a RadioShack recently?" Day asked. "Just walking into the place makes you feel vaguely depressed and alienated. Maybe our customers are at the mall anyway and don't feel like driving to Best Buy? I suppose that's possible, but still, it's just...weird."

ENLARGE IMAGE

A RadioShack store that somehow manages to bring in enough paying customers to turn a profit.

After taking over as CEO, Day ordered a comprehensive, top-down review of RadioShack's administrative operations, inventory and purchasing, suppliers, demographics, and marketing strategies. He has also diligently pored over weekly budget reports, met with investors, taken numerous conference calls with regional managers about "circulars or flyers or something," and even spent hours playing with the company's "baffling" 200-In-One electronics kit. Yet so far none of these things have helped Day understand the moribund company's apparent allure.

"Even the name 'RadioShack'—can you imagine two less appealing words placed next to one another?" Day said. "What is that, some kind of World War II terminology? Are ham radio operators still around, even? Aren't we in the digital age?"

"Well, our customers are out there somewhere, and thank God they are," Day added.

One of Day's theories about RadioShack's continued solvency involves wedding DJs, emergency cord replacement, and off-brand wireless telephones. Another theory entails countless RadioShack gift cards that sit unredeemed in their recipients' wallets. Day has even conjectured that the store is "still coasting on" an enormous fortune made from remote-control toy cars in the mid-1970s.


Day admitted, however, that none of these theories seems particularly plausible.

"I once went into a RadioShack location incognito in order to gauge customer service," Day said. "It was about as inviting as a visit to the DMV. For the life of me, I couldn't see anything I wanted to buy. Finally, I figured I'd pick up some Enercell AA batteries, though truthfully they're not appreciably cheaper than the name brands."

"I know one thing," Day continued. "If Sony and JVC start including gold-tipped cable cords with their products, we're screwed."

In the cover letter to his December 2006 report to investors, "Radio Shack: Still Here In The 21st Century," Day wrote that he had no reason to believe that the coming year would not be every bit as good as years past, provided that people kept on doing things much the same way they always had.

Despite this cheerful boosterism, Day admitted that nothing has changed during his tenure and he doesn't exactly know what he can do to improve the chain.

"I'd like to capitalize on the store's strong points, but I honestly don't know what they are," Day said. "Every location is full of bizarre adapters, random chargers, and old boom boxes, and some sales guy is constantly hovering over you. It's like walking into your grandpa's basement. You always expect to see something cool, but it never delivers."

Added Day: "I may never know the answer. No matter how many times I punch the sales figures into this crappy Tandy desk calculator, it just doesn't add up."
 
Thank god my Borders isn't closing. I used to have the Barnes and Noble membership but Borders just kept giving us better discounts. Luckily only one near by is closing and I never go to it. I like to get my books instantly for usually 40% off. Amazon is good for a lot of stuff but I don't like to wait for books.:lol
 
I miss Blockbuster. There's one left in my area (down from 4) and it's damn near impossible to find games now.

By the time I play NBA 2k10, 2k11 will be out. :(
 
If I somehow got a KB Toys gift card and they weren't honoring them, I would be enraged at the store and probably get kicked out. Are they so bad off that they are stealing money now?
 
Torhthelm Tídwald said:
I feel bad about Borders closing, since brick and mortar books stores do a lot of things that online stores can't. But I also feel bad whenever I buy anything more than a mass market paperback there, because I know I could get it cheaper online. I really wish someone would come up with a business model that would let them run a store as large as Borders and consistently discount a little. Even if it wasn't as cheap as Amazon, if I knew I was only paying 1-2$ more instead of 10$ more, it would make all the difference.

I do try to buy MMP at B&M stores, though, since Amazon doesn't discount them.
You're just wanting to keep a store alive out of nostalgia, not because the store is any good.

I do find a lot of humor in everyone waxing nostalgic and feeling bad for fucking mega-chains. Years ago we would have all welcomed these deaths.
 
Weenerz said:
If I somehow got a KB Toys gift card and they weren't honoring them, I would be enraged at the store and probably get kicked out. Are they so bad off that they are stealing money now?

Am I missing something with KB Toys here, because I worked at a holiday one in 2008 and in December they told us the entire company was going out of business........THEY LIED!!
 
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