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Student Faces Criminal Charges Over High School Essay
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bob_arctor
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Juice said:
:lol You know, somewhere, the disembodied essence of Philip K. Dick's all "I warned you guys!"
JzeroT1437
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Tralfamadore64 said:
Nah, Huntington High offers them. I can also verify that those AP courses have not made any of their students better writers.
Our language is screwed.
Instigator said:
I already posted in there a couple of hours ago. ? Sorry I don't understand.
John_B said:
Their job, I suppose.
ZombieSupaStar said:
Yeah I guess. But when concepts such as "freedom" and "liberty" and being thrown around as they are today...you'd expect that mistakes would not be repeated.
I think what is clear in this case is that this student did not make any threats in his writing. It could be debated whether there were indirect threats...but in that case you follow up with some questioning and maybe create a psychological profile of the student in question...not arrest him.
I can't blame teachers for being cautious, but it seems that there is no middle ground. You have whackos like Cho no getting the help he needs, and then you have students like this who don't have the option to get help, they just arrest his ass and press charges. I wonder if there are any politicians who are willing to look at this issue and straighten things out.
Unfortunately, you check most of your constitutional rights at the door when you go into a government building (i.e.; public schools). Free speech is heavily regulated in public schools, and a lot of your other rights are suspended.
Prior restraint is legal.
Limiting speech is legal, not to mention easy to defend with the current precedents. (bu-bu-bu, it disrupts the learning environment!)
No probable cause needed for search and seizure. ("reasonable suspicion" required, so broad they may as well say anything goes)
etc, etc.
Prior restraint is legal.
Limiting speech is legal, not to mention easy to defend with the current precedents. (bu-bu-bu, it disrupts the learning environment!)
No probable cause needed for search and seizure. ("reasonable suspicion" required, so broad they may as well say anything goes)
etc, etc.
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America.
Land of the free my ass.
Land of the free my ass.
MrToughPants
Brian Burke punched my mom
PhoenixDark said:
:lol :lol :lol
Tralfamadore64
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JzeroT1437 said:
Oh. Spring Valley FTL then.
Zoe
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Shogun said:
http://www.dailyherald.com/story.asp?id=306827
The official statement from the student--has the essay plus his explanation.
adamsappel
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That's the dumbass line that got him arrested. And how does he have an A+ average when he can't write or even spell the simplest words correctly? Although, from his Author's Note in the newspaper, he can write and spell perfectly fine, so he's just being a dick in class. Oh, noes, she bakes for her students!
Christoff Yurievich
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not all of them. Even my school had it (way back in 95) and I doubt you could find the city on a map. :lol The only problem was that you had to go to an actual college to take the courses and it was about 45 minutes away.Tralfamadore64 said:
that's just ignorant.BigGreenMat said:
:lol
don´t blame cho rather...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD_mRmQByKo
JzeroT1437
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Having read his entire essay and his notes, there's a couple of things worth noting.
1) This "essay" is garbage.
2) His points about organized education are pretty spot on, allbethem expressed in awful grammar and phrasing; I've often thought many of these things myself.
3) His essay is likely garbage because he feels the way he does about organized education, as well as his special hatred of English.
4) The kid was using the recent VT shootings as a springboard to underscore his own point--which, in the mind of a sixteen-year-old, was likely an "edgy" and "intelligent" writing practice.
I don't see anything wrong with the essay--other than the fact that it's trash. If he doesn't like organized education, he should just drop out. Good luck getting into the Marines without a GED, though.
1) This "essay" is garbage.
2) His points about organized education are pretty spot on, allbethem expressed in awful grammar and phrasing; I've often thought many of these things myself.
3) His essay is likely garbage because he feels the way he does about organized education, as well as his special hatred of English.
4) The kid was using the recent VT shootings as a springboard to underscore his own point--which, in the mind of a sixteen-year-old, was likely an "edgy" and "intelligent" writing practice.
I don't see anything wrong with the essay--other than the fact that it's trash. If he doesn't like organized education, he should just drop out. Good luck getting into the Marines without a GED, though.
Tralfamadore64
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JzeroT1437 said:
I'm aggravated that the original link posted for the story only included the guy's first paragraph.
Having read the essay in its entirety, I agree with what you said completely. This whole thing is definitely just a really immature kid's attempt to be edgy. Any high school in America is likely to have at least a handful of kids like this: completely innocuous, but trying their so hard to find some sense of identity and individuality that the only way the can find to rebel is to by trying to be edgy.
If not for the line "No quarrel on you qualifications as a writer, but as a teacher, don't be surprised on inspiring the first cg shooting" and coming so close to the recent VT shootings they may have just given the dude the C or D he deserved and forgotten the whole thing.
Tralfamadore64
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Dan said:
:lol QFT
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