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[God Dayumm]

If I'm eating that delicious sugary shit I do it with the understanding that I am damaging my body and I make peace with that. This changes nothing, the sugar alone causes both cancer, bone decay and dementia

 

[Patrick S.]

In the last nine years, the price for a jar of Nutella here in Germany rose from €1.89 to €2.39. Why can't these greedy motherfuckers afford better oil? I swear, buying a truck full of Nutella is probably a better investment than buying stocks.

Woah, update. Just went to the store, price for a jar of Nutella is now €2.79.

At this rate it will be as expensive as in Peru when I went there three years ago. It cost like 25 or so IIRC.

 

[velociraptor]

I love how Nutella is "a breakfast treat for children".

No Italian worth his or her salt would have that for breakfast. It's CLEARLY not a breakfast thing - it's just how it's marketed here.

It's a god damn sugar spread with a tiny bit of cocoa and hazelnuts. It's use for DESSERTS, not breakfast. It's so absurd. It's okay in moderation once in a while (aka in a special dessert) but for the love of god it shouldn't be had every single day. I mean have actual chocolate (especially dark chocolate) if you're craving that in the morning, at least you'll have some semblance of better nutrients.

Have Nutella on a delicious Nutella pizza, for example, or Nutella cookies, or whatever. Just not as a breakfast item that you would have every day....

It isn't unlike how sugar-laden "breakfast" cereals marketed to the population. The masses are ignorant of proper nutrition. The amount of sugar in everyday cereals is preposterous.

 

[Eusis]

I knew that stuff tasted too good to not be evil.

If it wasn't this it was the sugar.

 

[Fried Food]

Nufaila is overrated gives me a headache in thee morning because of sugar dehydrToon

 

[dragonfart28]

I shall lead the charge against Nutella as LEADER OF THE ANAPHYLACTICS!


Hold on, I need to catch my breath.

 

[mrmickfran]

I'm here for a good time, not a long time.

 

[J_Viper]

RIP Vitaly

 

[Armoured Priest]

First problem is that Cancer is a catchall term for a family of illness's that have many causes.

So yeah what causes Cancer is broad as fuck.

Indeed.

"You're older today then you were yesterday" is a legit cause of cancer, for example.

 

[BigDes]

Nufaila is overrated gives me a headache in thee morning because of sugar dehydrToon

What is it with this forum and the inability of people on it to eat something without it harming them in some way?

Oh I was on the same planet as a Taco Bell and was shitting blood for fifteen years because of it

I sniffed coffee once walking past a Starbucks and died instantly of heart palpitations

I was talking to someone who had eaten at a KFC within the last seven thousand years and instantly died of dysentery because of it.

Looking at chocolate spread makes my head hurt

It is a wonder most of you survived childhood.

 

[Snakethesniper]

I've read the snippet and not the entire article so maybe I'm missing something, but at the end it says:

The European Food Safety Authority (EFSA) said in May that palm oil generated more of a potentially carcinogenic contaminant than other vegetable oils when refined at temperatures above 200 degrees Celsius. It did not, however, recommend consumers stop eating it and said further study was needed to assess the level of risk.

So isn't saying "nutella can cause you cancer" a bit of a stretch?

 

[Doc_Drop]

So isn't saying "nutella can cause you cancer" a bit of a stretch?

That's the crux of the issue with news reports on these types of studies, trying to make a headline out of very little compelling evidence

 

[Onlinehero]

There's nothing wrong with rigorous research,but what is often not brought up in the "study says x causes cancer" are the levels required to do so or at least those levels are downplayed the reporting in order to generate attention.

Aspartame for example requires in inordinate amount to have provable negative effects, by comparison the same amount of sugar consumed would certainly kill you.

In this example, how much Nutella must he consumed regularly to result in an observable cause and effect? (if this is stated clearly in the study my apologies - I'm at work and on mobile data so I can't really dive deep into any figures)

The sentiment your frustrated at exists because of the amount of wholesale shit we have to swallow based on experts advice regarding food and it's positive or negative effects when the emphasis should be on focusing on a healthy balanced diet where you do not overindulge in any particular food as too much of a good thing can kill you

I'm not arguing against that. Thinking that any individual study is the be-all end-all is part of the ignorance in the posts I quoted.

 

[Muppet of a Man]

Also destroying tons of rain forests. So that makes two very good reasons to avoid the stuff.

This is the real reason to avoid using it. Lot's of vegetable oils produce carcinogens as a byproduct of heating at high temperatures.

 

[Littlefang]

Downplaying the importance of rigorous research -- "everything causes cancer" is a fallacy that causes people to disregard advice and progress in cancer research. It calls for methods and solutions that are unscientific and in the end harmfull for the progress being made, i.e. "I don't care because everything will give me cancer!" or "why don't they cure cancer instead?". It it also quite tiresome.

I'm not arguing against that. Thinking that any individual study is the be-all end-all is part of the ignorance in the posts I quoted.

People jump on the "everything gives you cancer" bandwagon since the media tends to take studies that outline something as being potentially carcinogenic under certain conditions and pushing a narrative that describes how this thing definitely causes cancer.

Not to mention there are often conflicting studies that state how a certain thing can both cause and protect against cancer. Or you get articles that are like "This study showed how marijuana can kill cancer cells therefore it can cure cancer."

The people posting "everything causes/cures cancer" are not being serious. They're criticizing how the media takes a single study and twists it into how this one thing can cause/prevent/cure cancer.

 

[ElRenoRaven]

You know what doesn't give you cancer though. Jack & Coke. Yup. I hear that cures cancer.

 

[StrongBlackVine]

Never tried Nutella but it always seemed gross to me.

 

[Skinpop]

the problem isn't with the studies or research but news that yank things out of context and extrapolate to sensational conclusions. the problem with science is never science, it's people like you and me and journalists who are unwilling to do the work to get at least a minimal understanding of things.
I've made a habit of always reading the abstract of any referenced study, it's a good way to judge what news sources are worth paying attention to. In my experience 95% of science related articles in mainstream media misrepresent the source material. I shouldn't have to say how damaging this is to the credibility of science overall in the eyes of the ignorant self absorbed public.

 

[Doc_Drop]

the problem isn't with the studies or research but news that yank things out of context and extrapolate to sensational conclusions. the problem with science is never science, it's people like you and me and journalists who are unwilling to do the work to get at least a minimal understanding of things.
I've made a habit of always reading the abstract of any referenced study, it's a good way to judge what news sources are worth paying attention to. In my experience 95% of science related articles in mainstream media misrepresent the source material. I shouldn't have to say how damaging this is to the credibility of science overall in the eyes of the ignorant self absorbed public.

It's why a lot of "normal" folk don't feel like they can trust experts when in reality it's the media that is untrustworthy. As you say, the science is generally sound, just not hyperbolic enough for an attention grabbing narrative for news

 

[Naked Snake]

kinda sad i didnt see this post yet

Memes have a shelf-life, and this one is well past its 'best before' date.

 

[Downhome]

I knew it. Peanut butter wins.

Good news everyone!

https://naturalsociety.com/is-your-peanut-butter-full-of-carcinogens/

 

[Littlefang]

Good news everyone!

https://naturalsociety.com/is-your-peanut-butter-full-of-carcinogens/

I like the headline cause it's like it's saying "Is your peanut butter full of ants?" But instead of ants it's cancer.

 

[Englebert3rd]

Wait, I would've thought this study was done ages ago.
Still, Nutella is not anymore like it used to be. They cheapened on the hazelnut.
I go for alternatives, even if they are as "healthy" as the original.

 

[RustyNails]

Personal bump. This thread gave me the kick in the ass I needed and made me re-examine my diet and lifestyle. From eating nutella everyday I cut it down to once a week (or 2 weeks), I started exercising more and cut rice from my diet. Since then I've lost about 5 lbs. It will take a lot to undo all the damage I've caused with these sugars.

 

[ubique]

From eating nutella everyday I cut it down to once a week (or 2 weeks)

Good for you, keep it up, but what the fuck dude

 

[blastprocessor]

Palm oil is the new trans fat.

 

[Elfotografoalocado]

I knew it. Peanut butter wins.

Not Nutella tho, handmade hazelnut spreads are the shit.

 

[Man with Knife]

You misspelled "cure"

 

[OnPoint]

It's (Nut)ella because it's signature ingredient happens to be a nut.

I used to say the same thing about Magneto with 'magnet' being the root word.

I too was wrong.

 

[davidwhangchoi]

Good news! Pineapple on pizza does not cause cancer.

 

[Cheech]

Nutella is more calorie dense than cake frosting.

If the ingredients don't cause cancer, the morbid obesity from regular Nutella consumption will get you one way or another.

 

[tanooki27]

Memes have a shelf-life, and this one is well past its 'best before' date.

it was never good. it's just not amusing. sorta like the friggin "why not both" thing.

 

[Clefargle]

What the fuck is a rapeseed?

 

[Sunster]

palm oil plantations are destroying rain forests in Indonesia. so even if you debunk the study you gotta live with that.

 

[Rad-]

What the fuck is a rapeseed?

Seed of a rape plant.

 

[PixelatedBookake]

They should just make a list of things that do not cause cancer. To save us time.

What the fuck is a rapeseed?

I think it's called canola oil now to prevent people from saying rapeseed.

 

[Transhuman]

People are surprised a choclate-y spread filled with sugar and processed chemicals is bad for you? If you really don't want to get cancer you should eat plenty of healthy organic food and get plenty of excercise outside underneath our happy benevolent sun.

 

[Silkworm]

Not Nutella tho, handmade hazelnut spreads are the shit.

Hmmm, good point! Maybe I'll try making my own chocolate hazelnut spread. Doesn't seem to hard to do.

 

[WoolyNinja]

We all die sometime and the chances that Nutella is what does it is miniscule. If you enjoy Nutella, eat Nutella.

 

[SolidusDave]

People are surprised a choclate-y spread filled with sugar and processed chemicals is bad for you? If you really don't want to get cancer you should eat plenty of healthy organic food and get plenty of excercise outside underneath our happy benevolent sun.

Very few cancers are directly related to your diet, unless it causes you to be overweight.


The sun gives you cancer with some of the most deadly metastasis btw

 

[Wolf Dawgz]

It's a conspiracy from the Orangutans, who benefit from less consumption of palm oil products.

 

[AlexBasch]

What the fuck is a rapeseed?

Sound like a Japanese game developer, or a VN made by a japanese developer.

Also, Nutella is awful.

 

[old manatee]

"Making Nutella without palm oil would produce an inferior substitute for the real product, it would be a step backward," Ferrero's purchasing manager Vincenzo Tapella told Reuters. He features in a TV commercial aired in Italy over the past three months that has drawn criticism from some politicians.

Any move away from palm oil would also have economic implications as it is the cheapest vegetable oil, costing around $800 a ton, compared with $845 for sunflower oil and $920 for rapeseed oil, another possible substitute.

wow what a coincidence that the cheapest one is the only one that can make Nutella taste good.

 

[CosmicGroinPull]

What if I slather it all over someone's balls before eating it? Wouldn't the nuts cancel each other out?

 

[maximum360]

So at this point, is there officially nothing on this planet that doesn't cause cancer?

The more you stay from processed foods the better.

 

[Ash735]

The more you stay from processed foods the better.

And Sunlight, and bottled water, and stop using deodorants, etc. Then you might not get Cancer.

 

[.....]

Great. Just had some this morning. RIP me. What next? Peanut butter? Is nothing sacred .

 

[Murder. She Wrote]

Boom, this fancy chocolate hazelnut spread doesn't have any palm oil and is absolutely delicious!

 

[GreatestHits]

Boom, this fancy chocolate hazelnut spread doesn't have any palm oil and is absolutely delicious!

I bet that stuff tastes 100x better than Nutella.

Also, pizza is bread and cheese. Of course it gives you cancer.Just eat it once a week, and eat whole foods the rest of the time, and the healthy foods will undo the bad ones. True story

 

[AdanVC]

Glad I stay away of Nutella then.

Peanut butter >>>>>>>>>> Nutella