Prime crotch
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I'll go see it tomorrow but did anyone in UK watched it already?
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Sunshine is out who saw it?
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Kabuki Waq
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Willco said:
or someone who already saw the trailer.
brandonh83
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Heh this past Wednesday in my Astronomy class, our professor had me start a video for him since I sit close to the projector, and some redneck next to me is like "we gonna watch Armageddon?" and my professor, who is generally very soft-spoken, sorta shy (even though he teaches a 100+ student class) and in his 50's, unexpectedly replied with "that shit insults me."
AgentOtaku
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I saw Sunshine last week and was rather disappointed with it. While the visuals are great and I've impressed with how much production value Doyle managed to squeeze from his modest budget, the film falls dramatically towards the end into a mess that I didn't expect from Doyle. I think the problem is that Doyle had based his premise on that one image of the sun and the story was somehow twisted to fit around that. The characters also feel secondary to the sun itself and that's a problem when it's supposed to be a psycological drama. I dunno, I liked elements of it and I don't mind how far fetched it is, but I think idea about the sun would work better as just part of a bigger film.
Watched it and it's actually really good. I heard someone say it was the most thought provoking sci-fi this side of the millennium but that's not true but it's good. It even has that same relaxing type of music heard in 28 days later (not surprisingly). I'm definitely buying it when it comes out which very rarely happens with me and sci-fi movies these days.
I find it absolutely hilarious that the premise is that a man made nuclear warhead can 'jump-start the sun', the relative size compared to the earth which you can see in the below representation:
It was ridiculous enough in 'The Core' (horrible movie) but it seems entirely plausible next to this notion- that a nuclear warhead can have any impact on some which takes up the size of ~ 700,000 earths.
It was ridiculous enough in 'The Core' (horrible movie) but it seems entirely plausible next to this notion- that a nuclear warhead can have any impact on some which takes up the size of ~ 700,000 earths.
AgentOtaku
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Mifune said:
...this is the vibe I was getting as well and is why I'm looking foward to it too
Thriller
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Slurpy said:I find it absolutely hilarious that the premise is that a man made nuclear warhead can 'jump-start the sun', the relative size compared to the earth which you can see in the below representation:
It was ridiculous enough in 'The Core' (horrible movie) but it seems entirely plausible next to this notion- that a nuclear warhead can have any impact on some which takes up the size of ~ 700,000 earths.
so you are trying to tell us that men CANNOT jump-start the sun...now im starting to get worried about our survival
Joe Molotov
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Slurpy said:I find it absolutely hilarious that the premise is that a man made nuclear warhead can 'jump-start the sun', the relative size compared to the earth which you can see in the below representation:
It was ridiculous enough in 'The Core' (horrible movie) but it seems entirely plausible next to this notion- that a nuclear warhead can have any impact on some which takes up the size of ~ 700,000 earths.
Next you're going to tell us that a virus can't cause dead bodies to reanimate into zombies. WTF, man?
BigGreenMat
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Joe Molotov said:
Honestly that is WAY more plausible than the restarting the sun crap.
BigGreenMat said:
from imdb trivia, always accurate (rdrr)
he plot does not revolve around the sun dying in the normal sense: this is not due for around five billion years based on our understanding of nuclear fusion. It has instead been "infected" with a "Q-ball" - a supersymmetric nucleus, left over from the big bang - that is disrupting the normal matter. This is a theoretical particle that scientists at CERN are currently trying to confirm, and was one of the many contributions of the science advisor. The film's bomb is meant to blast the Q-ball to its constituent parts which will then naturally decay, allowing the sun to return to normal.
the science plotholes where fine, and i'd still call it a hard science fiction movie. i like how it invoked all the epic space movies, from 2001 to even trashy good times like total recalll. some small plotholes irked me
they made jokes about splitting up, but when the 5th body is reported, do you really want to go there by yrself? also like how the time becomes space part wasn't corny, or otherly magical, just weird, going with what else was happening. now to rewatch ren and stimpy's space maddnesssss
The whole 'sun is dying' thing is really just background. What matters is that once you've passed that factoid, it's all treated extremely seriously. The mission is the important thing. This is a mission that the crew is dedicated to see through, and it happens to involve an awesome (in the true sense of the word) force in our solar system.
I mean, Batman's a pretty ridiculous idea, but once you get past that, Batman Begins is a has a pretty damned good internal logic. Likewise for hundreds upon hundreds of films. The internal logic is the key.
I thought the movie was phenomenal. Even if you see it and find some of the plot turns to not be your cup of tea, the visuals are astounding. There's a countless number of really amazing shots.
But beyond that, I was most impressed with the weight and power that the ship had. Whether it's the sun or the ship, this is about a small handful of people dabbling in things thousands of times more powerful than themselves. When things go wrong at such large scales, things go ****ing wrong.
I mean, Batman's a pretty ridiculous idea, but once you get past that, Batman Begins is a has a pretty damned good internal logic. Likewise for hundreds upon hundreds of films. The internal logic is the key.
I thought the movie was phenomenal. Even if you see it and find some of the plot turns to not be your cup of tea, the visuals are astounding. There's a countless number of really amazing shots.
But beyond that, I was most impressed with the weight and power that the ship had. Whether it's the sun or the ship, this is about a small handful of people dabbling in things thousands of times more powerful than themselves. When things go wrong at such large scales, things go ****ing wrong.
Dexter said:
That's awesome, I love Underworld, I'll have to pick up the soundtrack when it comes out. Another question if I may, is it a very suspenseful/scary film? I'd love to go see it, but my wife absolutely loathes scary movies. She literally was mad at me for a week after I made her go to 28 Days Later with me. Is this movie similar?
aceface said:
She will enjoy the first 2/3rds of the movie, its pretty fastpaced and suspenseful, but never really scary. The last 1/3rd involves
a superhuman creature that kills of people
Slurpy said:I find it absolutely hilarious that the premise is that a man made nuclear warhead can 'jump-start the sun', the relative size compared to the earth which you can see in the below representation:
It was ridiculous enough in 'The Core' (horrible movie) but it seems entirely plausible next to this notion- that a nuclear warhead can have any impact on some which takes up the size of ~ 700,000 earths.
Yeah, right. Didn't you see ID4? We can totally take over an alien network with a *Powerbook*. Surely, anything is possible.
I actually found it pretty average - like a more action oriented version of solaris. The setting was imo to unvaried and the story didn´t contain many surprises. Event Horizon is still my fav in the sci-fi genre - the mix of science, action and original plus well crafted horror feels just right to me.
The Interrobanger
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It's a very well made movie, but it morphs into something it's shouldn't have in the last 1/3rd of the film.
The visuals are incredible, as is the music, but too many character contradictions and the aforementioned twist near the end brought down the entire experience.
8/10. Solid sci-fi flick in a galaxy full of crap. I got a ton of 2001 and Solaris vibes while taking it all in.
EDIT: Event Horizon? Dear god...
The visuals are incredible, as is the music, but too many character contradictions and the aforementioned twist near the end brought down the entire experience.
8/10. Solid sci-fi flick in a galaxy full of crap. I got a ton of 2001 and Solaris vibes while taking it all in.
EDIT: Event Horizon? Dear god...
It's not nearly as deliberately paced as Solaris. The comparison to Solaris has more to do with 'critics' being idiots and/or having few, if any, legitimate space sci-fi films in recent years to compare it with.big_z said:
It's a bit more deliberate than 28 Days Later, and since that's Boyle and the same editor, that should give you a feel. It has momentum, be sure of that.
Gary Whitta
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I was very dissapointed by how it makes a very formulaic turn in the third act, but up until that point I was loving every minute of it. I'd still say it's worth the price of admission just for the first two-thirds. When it's good - and it's often good - it's fantastic.
mambadragon
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I was hoping to see this this weekend but it's not in the DC area.
thesoapster
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xsarien said:
He gave it a cold
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I'm tempted to order the UK DVD, but keep hoping to come across news of an overseas HD version... I loved the movie, in spite of the bootleg "quality," when I watched a couple of months ago, and I'd love to have my face melted off for a first real viewing -- it's certainly not going to show up at the local theater when they consider 400 screens a wide release.
And it's no surprise that the third act divides people; that's practically par for the course with Boyle's films.
And it's no surprise that the third act divides people; that's practically par for the course with Boyle's films.
Max@GC said:
event horizon is horrible. i actually met the screenwriter, who blames the director. the writer wanted it to be heart of darkness in space (which the Sunshine guy said as well.) but the director wanted more hellraiser.
event horizon had great ideas. kinda like the prophecy. what a great idea for a flick, what a horrible execution.
Slurpy said:I find it absolutely hilarious that the premise is that a man made nuclear warhead can 'jump-start the sun', the relative size compared to the earth which you can see in the below representation:
It was ridiculous enough in 'The Core' (horrible movie) but it seems entirely plausible next to this notion- that a nuclear warhead can have any impact on some which takes up the size of ~ 700,000 earths.
"The plot does not revolve around the sun dying in the normal sense: this is not due for around five billion years based on our understanding of nuclear fusion. It has instead been "infected" with a "Q-ball" - a supersymmetric nucleus, left over from the big bang - that is disrupting the normal matter. This is a theoretical particle that scientists at CERN are currently trying to confirm, and was one of the many contributions of the science advisor. The film's bomb is meant to blast the Q-ball to its constituent parts which will then naturally decay, allowing the sun to return to normal."
Gary Whitta
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This is definitely a movie that will sing in HD and I hope it gets such a release.Hotarubi said:
Also, shame on you for watching a bootleg. *slap*
Gary Whitta
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That's all very interesting but none of it is in the movie. Instead they talk about creating a new star within the dying old one.GilloD said:
I went "hmmm" a bit at the idea of an explosive payload somehow "fixing" the sun, even one the size of Manhattan, but then I know little enough about science to not care and just concentrate on the story and the characters. The smart move made here was to push the science babble to one side and get on with the story. It's movies like The Core and Armageddon that think they're clever by feeding the audience a lot of dumbed-down, made-up pseudo-science that slip up.
xir said:
I agree. I'm sure Event Horizon looked great on paper, but it wound up being a pretty damned mediocre science-fiction movie, and an unquestionably poorly made horror movie.
So, really, the only reason you have to watch it is if you're pretty bored and have low standards for sci-fi AND horror. (I can stomach campy, bad horror, but I need more from my sci-fi.)
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