In terms of storytelling they both go that route. 5CM is visually gorgeous, but isn't an outrageous style. VOADS, on the other hand, has a super unique art style to it. Hard to adjust to, and I personally didn't like it at all.
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In terms of storytelling they both go that route. 5CM is visually gorgeous, but isn't an outrageous style. VOADS, on the other hand, has a super unique art style to it. Hard to adjust to, and I personally didn't like it at all.
GlassEmpires
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That may be something Anung or Shackzam could check. It may be an alternative to Izanagi coming down, because supers in Arena tended to have the entire animation (if they had one) before the KO splash.
Gentle Rodriguez
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4k damage using 150 SP is really not worth it, no matter how easy it is to pull off. If you can't finish off your opponent I wouldn't use it.
AngryCanadian
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You'll cowards don't even have to wake up at 3am to go to work every morning
I used to be like everyone here and go to sleep late, but I can't really do it that often anymore
I used to be like everyone here and go to sleep late, but I can't really do it that often anymore
At least I smoke crack though.
Aaron-Lagann
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Crack cocaine will ruin this thread.
This thread is already ruined by a combination of Sonic fanart, waifu wars, fact checking and porn links.
Aaron-Lagann
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Whoa! When did I miss Sonic Fanart day? I have so much to share from my days as a 12 year old!
I might have misremembered that one, but given our eclectic range of topics, we'll get to it eventually.
E_Darkness
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By mentioning it we've now reached it.
Imperfected
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I don't believe you. I'm going to get high on crack and fact-check all the waifu wars posts for porn links!
Not touching that Sonic shit, though.
Aaron-Lagann
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Aaron-Lagann
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I just walked through it. Didn't even care. It's not like anything could touch me anyway.
Because magic is still OP even though they did everything in their power to stop you from using it.
Aaron-Lagann
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Sorcery. As far as I can tell there's not that much nerfing, at least compared to Miracles, though I only briefly glanced at the changes and haven't played it myself. Either way, sorceries are more fun, making them weaker just makes them better, because they're more fun and I get to fight the power by using them. All you conformists with your strength builds, doing what the MAN wants you to. I won't stand for it.
Imperfected
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What got me (and obviously Pat) was that he would run into the poison, get poisoned, then run up onto a safe zone to wait the poison out. For fuck's sake, Woolie. You're already poisoned, you are now free to explore as much as possible with no further consequences! You aren't going to get double-poisoned or something, until that bar wears down move your ass and get shit done, don't wait for it to go away and then immediately jump right back in to get poisoned again!
Edit: That said, I can understand why he's doing it. The way poison works in Dark Souls in extremely counter-intuitive, and it's natural to see "POISONED!" and think "I should get away from this poisonous stuff!" rather than "I am now immune to further poisoning, fuck all your shit."
zedreamcast
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Well I think its a natural thing of being poisoned in other games where poison is an easy cure, just use an antidote or something, I dont think its a natural thing to "im poisoned, let me run around in it some more.
Imperfected
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Yeah, it's very much an RPG-ism that's hard to understand unless you've played a lot of Final Fantasy type games.
AngryCanadian
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It's a shame they aren't doing Ds1 first, I would have loved to see Woolie take on Blighttown
Yeah the first time I got poisoned in the game I panicked and didn't know what to do until it was too late. Then whenever I got poisoned I would spam my estus flask out of paranoia. Once I figured out that it only takes one to wait out the poison I just stopped caring, I don't think I ever used an item to cure poison outside of PvP
Imperfected
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I think it's a learned reflex from DS1 (where you pretty much had to save all your good moss for Toxic and that meant just walking around Poisoned and not giving a fuck). As another poster mentioned, most DS1 vets probably learned it in Blighttown, which explains why Woolie doesn't have that "eh, poison, better go walk around in it some more" response.
RecursiveFault
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Also Poison in Dark 2 is scary as Toxic from Dark 1. It's easy to freak out.
DoktorEvil
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I don't do it either, but that's because I have to travel to work every morning.
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Lost Sinner's Sword & Key of the Embedded
Man everyone loves great swords in here...I personally prefer quicker hitting weapons as giant slow ones fell weird to me (that made the No More Heroes 2 playthrough a grind to watch) don't mind it in Dark Souls as much though. I do understand the satisfaction of using them though.
Aaron-Lagann
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It always goes back to FF7 for me. I still want to be Cloud.
Imperfected
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I used to love ultra greatswords, but then I did my Great Scythe run of DS1. I'm now on the "stats don't mean a thing if it ain't got that schwing" bandwagon.
Like, because of the weird build I did to get the platinum trophy my character would actually do absurd damage with the Greatsword of Artorias, but fuck that noise. That thing's moveset is beyond garbage.
DoktorEvil
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Cloud is pretty badass for a FF character. Lightning is pretty much female Cloud, except with a shitty writer behind her.
At least you don't want to be Lightning (taking your joke Evil)
I'm still not sure if I like the Scythe's moveset in Dark 2 or not.
Stole your joke
The movesets of most scythes in Dark 2 are garbage, and they have really annoying sweet spots to deal damage as well. In DkS1 they were amazing.
I don't get the UGS love, they're unwieldy as hell and really easy to punish. Stick a UGS player with a spearpoke or two and you'll do as much damage with very little risk of getting hit during recovery.
Imperfected
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They're decidedly less good in DS2, but having experienced a weapon with an actual good moveset I think I'm going to prioritize that now over almost everything else. The ultra greatsword is admittedly better than the greatsword, especially for PvE, but I think I'm going to be sticking with halberds and spears for a while.
Ultra Greatswords for life. I used the DBS in Demon's Souls, the Demon Machete in Dark Souls, and am using the Great Sword in Dark Souls II.
Is the Greatsword really the best UGS in Dark Souls II? I haven't fully researched Dark Souls II like I have Dark/Demon's Souls.
Is the Greatsword really the best UGS in Dark Souls II? I haven't fully researched Dark Souls II like I have Dark/Demon's Souls.
Yeah I actually like using a scythe but it's moveset is pretty lame. I personally mainly stick with Katana's and rapiers for my dex build and maces for my strength one.
Zwei is up there just for the moveset. Maybe the King's UGS, has a tad less damage but better STR scaling, IIRC.
RecursiveFault
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Poise damage and and stunlocks are the best feeling in Souls for me. So greatswords fill that niche pretty well.
Salty over how the claymore moveset was adjusted from Dark 1.
Salty over how the claymore moveset was adjusted from Dark 1.
Straight up damage-wise? Yes it is, although Drakekeeper's Ultra Greatsword gets real close. King's UGS has Strike damage and better base damage, so it might be better, but it loses some Dex scaling and is heavy with a somewhat unwieldy moveset. Smelter Sword and Drakewing UGS have the coolness aspect with special attacks to boot, and Pursuer's UGS has some neat moves.
DoktorEvil
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What about Sinner's UGS or the Key of Embedded? I found the thrust with the Key really effective against shielded enemies.
The Zwei was pretty amazing in Dark Souls I, as well. I was just curious. I base my equipment decisions largely on aesthetics.
I figured there'd be debate over it, but it's good to know that it's a top contender. I remember looking on the wiki and seeing the Drakewing UGS as a potential replacement down the line.
Yeah the chaos blade and the espada ropera (fuck having to wait so long) are my main weapons.
So I watched Rurouni Kenshin recently and around episode 60 I remembered there's a katana in DS2 called the "Manslayer". Now I really want to make a Shishio Makoto character, with that sword on constant cpr and a bit of pyromancy.
Too bad there's no mummy-looking armor set. I'm probably gonna go with the black Leydia robe.
Too bad there's no mummy-looking armor set. I'm probably gonna go with the black Leydia robe.
RecursiveFault
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I think he more means he finds a lot of their variety useless to him, and 'pretty much' all horizontal swing R1's are returning from Dark 1. That said- this is a very generalized complaint.
I've never tried to Key, since it's a bit of a gimmick weapon that you lose if you use it for its intended purpose. And you can't upgrade it at all, outside of cheating.
Sinner's UGS loses power the more you have Sin, and you can only lose Sin by getting killed by a cop. And cops will only invade when you have 10 or more Sin, and only reduce it by one, so if you get to the stage of having even some Sin, the weapon will never be at maximum power. Still an ok weapon moveset-wise, but I haven't used it much.
CyberPunked
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The Pursuer's UGS is the best because it's all shiny. Remember, Fashion Souls is best souls.
Someone on Reddit searched around the new update files and found this:
Someone on Reddit searched around the new update files and found this:
Cloud is pretty badass for a FF character. Lightning is pretty much female Cloud, except with a shitty writer behind her.
And any sort of meaningful character development.
Imperfected
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The Pursuer's UGS is the best because it's all shiny. Remember, Fashion Souls is best souls.
Someone on Reddit searched around the new update files and found this:
Yeah, crush those dragon bones!
So when are we going to have our Dark Souls Fashion show???
DoktorEvil
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I saw that
you get the ring of the dead after using the key
I guess I enjoy the Sinner's UGS since I barely did any invasions, maybe 1, and the power of the base weapon is ridiculous compared to its stamina usage. Fashion Souls and all(its so cool looking!).
RecursiveFault
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How can my lore possibly be this deep?
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