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Super Mario 3D All-Stars |OT| So Long So Long Gay Bowser
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Excessive celebration. 15 yard penalty, repeat the level.
-Arcadia-
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I don’t know if I was quite ready to say this first time around, but Delfino Plaza is definitely the best hub world ever. One of the best Mario songs ever. Gorgeous summer aesthetics. Probably an unlimited amount of fun stuff you can do with all the mechanics, jumping all over the town. Lots of little goodies and secrets. Side quests. Entrances to bonus levels. Shines. The whole sewer system.
It straddles the line between a hub world, and an extra regular world.
64’s kicks the imagination and is so atmospheric, and Galaxy’s is just beautiful with that music, but this just has so much gameplay and fun to it.
It straddles the line between a hub world, and an extra regular world.
64’s kicks the imagination and is so atmospheric, and Galaxy’s is just beautiful with that music, but this just has so much gameplay and fun to it.
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hariseldon
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M64 Hazy Maze Cave - the 8 red coin mission is clever but caused foul language. The long jump off a moving platform to inevitably overshoot because I didn’t point at the fucking pole properly was utterly arseholish.
Finished Sunshine! The game is perfectly playable and looks great. Not sure why people were worrying about the lack of shoulder triggers or whatnot but I didnt miss 'em. Going to get the last few Shines and blue coins tomorrow and then move on to Galaxy. Lets see how that plays on the Pro controller.
Silvawuff
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Fired up SM64 last night -- it looks super clean and better than I remember it. I'm using a pro controller and I gotta say, I'm not a huge fan of the controls. I keep unconsciously pushing the right analog stick to adjust the camera and get the annoying camera adjustment whistle to indicate a camera mode change. Not sure if there's some other way I can adjust it to not do that, but it's kinda frustrating. Game is awesome tho!
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hariseldon
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Finished the cave, now on lethal lava land and already 2 stars under my belt - it’s a fun little area.
Arkam
Member
I want this soo bad. But with COVID and the lack of traveling, I know I dont need it....right now. I have not read any reviews (as I have played all these games a few times), sso I have one question. How is Mario Galaxy? PLease tell me you do not have to use the joycons to emulate that DUMB AF wiggle to have mario spin? I hated that on the Wii.
Shaqazooloo
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It's mapped to the Y button from what i've heard (haven't gotten to Galaxy yet)
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hariseldon
Unconfirmed Member
Just dealt with Pete Pirhana in Sundhine - it’s pretty early but in had to work for that. The controls didn’t exactly help me. It’s good fun but does currently feel like it lacks focus. I’m not totally sold on the fludd gimmick but we’ll see how it goes.
Galaxy is a fucking work of art. Was initially wondering where the platforming was and then you get some cracking stuff. I love the way Nintendo will throw a mechanic at you that is absolutely sublime, that other games would base a whole game around, but Nintendo are so confident that they have other better mechanics they just use it, dump it and move on. So many awesome ideas which never outstay their welcome.
Finally found the ground pound in Galaxy and Sunshine - just use the left trigger.
Galaxy is a fucking work of art. Was initially wondering where the platforming was and then you get some cracking stuff. I love the way Nintendo will throw a mechanic at you that is absolutely sublime, that other games would base a whole game around, but Nintendo are so confident that they have other better mechanics they just use it, dump it and move on. So many awesome ideas which never outstay their welcome.
Finally found the ground pound in Galaxy and Sunshine - just use the left trigger.
IbizaPocholo
NeoGAFs Kent Brockman
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
You can play with the Pro Controller if you want, but I've been using the joycons because it's better for the pointer stuff. You do NOT have to waggle anymore - just press Y. But you can still waggle if you're feeling nostalgic. That fixed my least favorite thing about Galaxy.
Outside of that, it's a fantastic port - looks and sounds way better than it did before. I'm completely happy with it.
Touch fuzZy. get BizZay
Member
87 Stars in Galaxy now.
I'm enjoying it, although I'm really let down but how motion control focused it is, and how the different areas are small easy challenges and not detailed playgrounds filled with lots to discover.
I'm doing a motion control manta-ray surfing challenge right now and it strikes me that even though I'm holding a pro controller I'm constantly tilting left and right to take corners on the waves, I must look just like my little sister did playing Mario when I was a child...She would swing the controller hard left and right erratically even though the only thing that actually had an effect on movement in the game back then was the d-pad.
I'm enjoying it, although I'm really let down but how motion control focused it is, and how the different areas are small easy challenges and not detailed playgrounds filled with lots to discover.
I'm doing a motion control manta-ray surfing challenge right now and it strikes me that even though I'm holding a pro controller I'm constantly tilting left and right to take corners on the waves, I must look just like my little sister did playing Mario when I was a child...She would swing the controller hard left and right erratically even though the only thing that actually had an effect on movement in the game back then was the d-pad.
Lionel Richie
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TKOFromTokyo
Member
It sounds so lame when Mario says buh-bye.
Lionel Richie
Member
We all know what he's thinking about saying.
bender
What time is it?
Intoxicate
Member
Had to redo all 15 Special Stars in 64 because I skipped the red Switch Star in the beginning and didn’t remember. The last time I had a save with all 120 Stars was when I was a kid and the a friend of my younger sibling deleted that one. Took me forever as a kid to get to 120 so I never touched the game again until now.
Now in Sunshine I have a hard time adjusting to the noninverted shooting/splashing. Why isn’t there an option to switch the aiming???
Now in Sunshine I have a hard time adjusting to the noninverted shooting/splashing. Why isn’t there an option to switch the aiming???
Intoxicate
Member
Think about the camera being Lakitu on it’s cloud behind you. That explains why you can’t move the camera/Lakitu through walls etc.
For me it’s part of the game controlling both Mario and Lakitu.
bender
What time is it?
Mine too. The camera is mostly manageable but boy do I have a new appreciation for speed runners.
Nico_D
Member
Fair point and I really like the idea of the camera man being Lakitu. I will probably get used to it the more I play it and learn to adjust my playing style to it.
TKOFromTokyo
Member
I find the Bowser platform if levels really helped me get used to the camera and how to use it smoothly.
darth.shrimp
Member
Still trying to get those last two stars in Tick-Tock Clock (the one at the very top, and the 100 coins)... it just takes so long to get all the way up there, and then I fail a jump and have to start all over again.
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Macapala
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lol has anyone seen this?
Touch fuzZy. get BizZay
Member
aaaand maxed out all stars in galaxy. Got 120 stars/shines in all 3 games now.
Great collection. Mario is the goat. These are all classic games at the pinnacle of 3D platforming in their day.
I'm a little surprised to say I like Sunshine the most of the 3 and Galaxy the least. If I recall correctly I thought Galaxy 2 totally blew Galaxy 1 away though, I will have to pray it gets a HD release also.
I'll try and work out my thoughts and feelings about the collection when I do a GotY voting thread post.
EDIT: Shhhhhhit just read there's 121 stars lol. Well...I'll do it later
Great collection. Mario is the goat. These are all classic games at the pinnacle of 3D platforming in their day.
I'm a little surprised to say I like Sunshine the most of the 3 and Galaxy the least. If I recall correctly I thought Galaxy 2 totally blew Galaxy 1 away though, I will have to pray it gets a HD release also.
I'll try and work out my thoughts and feelings about the collection when I do a GotY voting thread post.
EDIT: Shhhhhhit just read there's 121 stars lol. Well...I'll do it later
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-Arcadia-
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It really is a moment of truth. I’m playing this 20 year old GameCube game that has completely stalled out any other game I’m playing, been a blast and ate up my free time, and looks utterly colorful and beautiful on my 4K TV, upscaled from 1080p.
One has to wonder, are hundreds of developers killing themselves for five years necessary to create a great game? To keep gaming going? Not to mention all the developers that have gone out of business, or resorted to the most boring, risk-adverse games, just because of how much it takes to make them.
Just because I zoom in on Sunshine Mario, and he looks a little blocky, instead of like a perfect CG cartoon, and his surroundings aren’t detailed to the pixel, is that really the end of the world?
Of course, we love amazing visuals, and they add to a game like Odyssey (which definitely is not risk-adverse). There’ll always be a place for that, but one wonders if the single-minded focus on it is healthy or even necessary.
Lionel Richie
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It's really not sustainable, especially when you spend 5-6 years developing something and the result is a very shallow game where you walk and walk and walk over obsessively composed corridors which you never visit again or through a massive landscape praying to god you'll soon unlock fast travel. The logic is borked.
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hariseldon
Unconfirmed Member
Just did the hillside cave in Sunshine where it takes away your water - really fun little area with some cracking platforming.
-Arcadia-
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Wow. Okay, definitely crack open a guide when you think you can’t possibly find any more blue coins (the normal ones are fun).
Spraying out the invisible sunshine icons on the beach at Pinna Park? Who in a million years would think to do that? Or even find them? I’m really glad internet guides are so widespread now.
Spraying out the invisible sunshine icons on the beach at Pinna Park? Who in a million years would think to do that? Or even find them? I’m really glad internet guides are so widespread now.
UsualNoise
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-Arcadia-
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My first ever 100%ed Sunshine level.
Also, I have to say that Sunshine’s water still looks good. I mean, I’m not exactly hoping PS5 games use this exact same implementation, lol, but from an artistic standpoint. I see a lot of other games where the water is miles beyond, but looks more like an undulating solid. Sunshine’s actually looks like water.
I still haven’t seen anything like the heat wave effect either.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
My first ever 100%ed Sunshine level.
Also, I have to say that Sunshine’s water still looks good. I mean, I’m not exactly hoping PS5 games use this exact same implementation, lol, but from an artistic standpoint. I see a lot of other games where the water is miles beyond, but looks more like an undulating solid. Sunshine’s actually looks like water.
I still haven’t seen anything like the heat wave effect either.
Agreed, that water sold people on the TEV
.You do hit another good point with the heat wave effect, but this is a case where a more faithful remaster would have changed its implementation to keep the same appearance as it had on the low resolution optimised effect.
As John covered in his excellent DF coverage of the collection, this effect is not quite the same with the much higher resolution rendering and I had the same impression the other day: it looks a bit too clear like geometry warping in front of you while on GCN and old TV’s it looked fuzzier and less defined giving a different look and feel.
Sometimes you need to redo things to keep them looking as they were.
darth.shrimp
Member
So I finally got all 7 stars in Tick-Tock Clock.
Rainbow Ride is... oh well, let's just say I never saw the hole in the wall to reach that level, okay? Rainbow Ride isn't real, it can't hurt me...
Rainbow Ride is... oh well, let's just say I never saw the hole in the wall to reach that level, okay? Rainbow Ride isn't real, it can't hurt me...
Goro Majima
Kitty Genovese Member
Got to Corona Mountain with 85 shines and noped out after trying the first bit of platforming over the spikes and flames.
I still love Sunshine but I think I’ve seen enough of that one for a while. Maybe the town hub music will get out of my head soon too haha. That tune is such an ear worm!
I still love Sunshine but I think I’ve seen enough of that one for a while. Maybe the town hub music will get out of my head soon too haha. That tune is such an ear worm!
pixelation
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TLZ
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It does kinda feel like that. I think it's the controls that makes it feel that way. I wish they tightened them up a bit. Galaxy is miles, miles better and a much more pleasant experience.
Lionel Richie
Member
So in case anyone is having trouble with 100 coins in TTC, absolutely do it with the clock stopped. You have to get through a kind of bullshit blind wall jump to make it, but you obviously get the red coins much easier.
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hariseldon
Unconfirmed Member
Flip Switch Galaxy can suck a fat dick.
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hariseldon
Unconfirmed Member
So M64 Lethal Lava Land is fantastic. The platforming is awesome and it gets absolutely insane once you go into the volcano. The final star for the elevator tour - I lost so many lives and produced such extraordinarily foul and abusive language but it was totally worth it.
Andyliini
Member
Whew, finally beat Sunshine with 100% completion. That took some work, would have taken even longer if I hadn't used a guide for blue coins. It felt like everithing took a long time to do, and since precision platforming was so vital, one failure made you do everything again, adding up the time.
There were on instances I really enjoyed my time, only to be brought back to ground by some stupid decision, that killed the pacing completely. I fully understand why they decided to go into a different direction with Galaxy.
Anyway, I have now done it. It won't haunt me in my backlog again.
There were on instances I really enjoyed my time, only to be brought back to ground by some stupid decision, that killed the pacing completely. I fully understand why they decided to go into a different direction with Galaxy.
Anyway, I have now done it. It won't haunt me in my backlog again.
Shaqazooloo
Member
71 Shines now, Did my first 100% with Shirena Beach. I like the level and got most of the blue coins without a guide but some of them you would only find them if you sprayed water on everything.
I might 100% the other stages before I start the stage next to Corona Mountain (forgot the name), although I might opt to just get it over and done with.
I might 100% the other stages before I start the stage next to Corona Mountain (forgot the name), although I might opt to just get it over and done with.
Fart Knight
Al Pachinko, Konami President
My first ever 100%ed Sunshine level.
Also, I have to say that Sunshine’s water still looks good. I mean, I’m not exactly hoping PS5 games use this exact same implementation, lol, but from an artistic standpoint. I see a lot of other games where the water is miles beyond, but looks more like an undulating solid. Sunshine’s actually looks like water.
I still haven’t seen anything like the heat wave effect either.
Untill you go underwater
-Arcadia-
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Lmao, yeah. That’s something I’ve always had a laugh at, how good it looks above water, and how mediocre it looks underwater.
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hariseldon
Unconfirmed Member
Shifting sands in 64 - am I the only one finding it utterly impossible? Like what the fucking hell do you do to get that first star and how the fuck do you get the wing cap?
darth.shrimp
Member
Triple-jump on the platform in front of the pyramid, get the winged cap, fly anywhere you want/manage.
That first star is by far the easiest to get on that map, all you have to do is fly through the bird then go and grab it.