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[Bomber Bob]

guys geometry is nothing compared to texture / audio / FMV etc

and besides, do they even do surround or hi-res textures?

 

[afoni]

Art style

That would be a good point if Galaxy didn't do exactly the same thing.

 

[Orayn]

That would be a good point if Galaxy didn't do exactly the same thing.

Super Mario Galaxy was 3.28GB, 2 was 1.3GB, and we know that the original had a bunch of unused assets.

Seems roughly in line with this. The textures are sharper, sure, but on an absolute scale they're still pretty simple and thus not terribly high resolution.

 

[afoni]

Super Mario Galaxy was 3.28GB, 2 was 1.3GB, and we know that the original had a bunch of unused assets.

Seems roughly in line with this. The textures are sharper, sure, but on an absolute scale they're still pretty simple and thus not terribly high resolution.

Roughly 1.5GB more. There's no way that unused assets would account for that much.

 

[Hermii]

Super Mario Galaxy was 3.28GB, 2 was 1.3GB, and we know that the original had a bunch of unused assets.

Seems roughly in line with this. The textures are sharper, sure, but on an absolute scale they're still pretty simple and thus not terribly high resolution.

If I remember correctly Galaxy had a lot more pre rendered cutscenes.

 

[test_account]

So can I say that Mario games cost about 1/30th of what it take to make AAA games (assuming most of them are 50gigs)?

It comes down to how many people working on the game and how many work hours they put into it. I have no idea how many people who worked on Super Mario 3D World or how many hours it took to make the game.

Bloated mess compared to efficient game design. Yes the cost difference is probably huge, but to say that based on file size is nonsensical.

Out of curiousity, do you have any examples of what is a bloated mess?

 

[Hermii]

So can I say that Mario games cost about 1/30th of what it take to make AAA games (assuming most of them are 50gigs)?

Im pretty sure you cant measure budgets by gigabytes.

 

[Robin64]

guys geometry is nothing compared to texture / audio / FMV etc

and besides, do they even do surround or hi-res textures?

Their last two games, Pikmin 3 and Wind Waker HD, have 5.1.

 

[Interceptor]

So can I say that Mario games cost about 1/30th of what it take to make AAA games (assuming most of them are 50gigs)?

I just rendered a two (!) minute Video with a 13 GB filesize. I am a 30 billion AAA-super machine!

 

[Coolwhip]

It comes down to how many people working on the game and how many work hours they put into it. I have no idea how many people who worked on Super Mario 3D World or how many hours it took to make the game.



Out of curiousity, do you have any examples of what is a bloated mess?

Most AAA games that tack on every feature in the book. The last Tomb Raider for example that had multiplayer.

 

[Mango The Magician]

So it probably wont have pre-rendered cutscenes but will have story cutscenes right? I loathed how 3D land had next-to-no story. All-in-all though 3D World looks great I can't wait to play it, I just the levels are longer than 3D lands, and there is some music variation in the levels.

Spoiler

Can't wait to play through the game as Rosalina though, got to get them Green Stars first! ;P

 

[Owwari]

I know, right? No cinematic pre-rendered cutscenes in a Mario game. What ever will we do?

I don't know, be okay with the least minimum every single time?

 

[eXistor]

Doesn't sound (voices) take up tons of space? Also in-game cinematics must reign in that space. Sonic Lost World has a bunch of cutscenes and voices. Probably not 6 gigs worth, but still.

 

[Hermii]

So it probably wont have pre-rendered cutscenes but will have story cutscenes right? I loathed how 3D land had next-to-no story. All-in-all though 3D World looks great I can't wait to play it, I just the levels are longer than 3D lands, and there is some music variation in the levels.

Spoiler

Can't wait to play through the game as Rosalina though, got to get them Green Stars first! ;P

Maybe Koizumi managed to sneak in some light story, but I woudnt bet on it.

 

[Dr. Kaos]

To make an amazing-looking HD game using only 1.7GB in the era of 5-50GB games probably means that they favored polycount, animation and lighting over textures, etc. I'm sure it is for the sake of making everything run at a locked 60FPS.

The lack of cutscenes is just as important, of course. Mario don't need no pre-rendered cutscenes.

 

[RagnarokX]

So that's how you are supposed to do this? I've done it wrong for my entire life. I just used the cannon 4-5x to shoot me through all rings. Damn, I feel stupid now...

Heh, the name of the mission is Mario Wings to the Sky. The rings are all lined up but the last 2 require you to fly up from the last ring.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExRHEwXJbfY

 

[BrhysH]

Great news; but I do find myself torn between the physical version and the digital version. I bought NSMBU on the eshop but miss being able to have a physical disk and box.

 

[WrenchNinja]

Great news; but I do find myself torn between the physical version and the digital version. I bought NSMBU on the eshop but miss being able to have a physical disk and box.

Get the physical. It's better.

 

[BrhysH]

Get the physical. It's better.

I know, and that box art is fantastic to.

 

[Berordn]

Maybe Koizumi managed to sneak in some light story, but I woudnt bet on it.

We know that there's at least some sort of story with the pixies and whatnot, but it's probably not any more involved than 3D Land's story.

 

[faridmon]

Not really a surprise. No cutscenes, voice acting or ridiculously high resolution assets will do that to ya.

The game runs with high resolution assets...

 

[KHlover]

Heh, the name of the mission is Mario Wings to the Sky. The rings are all lined up but the last 2 require you to fly up from the last ring.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExRHEwXJbfY

"Durchfliege alle Münzenringe! "
"Fly through all coin rings"

German name of the level. The obvious hint to the Wing Cap is missing. The cannon is aimed directly at the rings pretty much by default, using it also counts towards earning the star.

I never bothered to revisit the level after getting all stars, so even though I DID get the Wing Cap at some time I'd never noticed either way

 

[mclem]

I know right. I would have forgiven 2.5GB but only 1.7? What were they thinking ... needs more commented code.

I know it's a parody of ignorance, but even so, this makes my brain hurt.

 

[mclem]

I don't know, be okay with the least minimum every single time?

The very notion of budgeting: Causing confusion and consternation since 1979.

 

[MrCunningham]

Saying EEPROM ROM is a bit redundant don't you think?

Spoiler

yes... yes it is.

 

[test_account]

Most AAA games that tack on every feature in the book. The last Tomb Raider for example that had multiplayer.

I see what you mean. Sometimes it could be worth investing into having extra features though, but it could be unnecessary as well, that is true.

Sorry for the late reply, i forgot to answer earlier.

 

[dark_prinny]

Well, it never looked like a fullfledged WiiU production anyway. So...uh, surprise?
Hopefully EAD Tokyo is putting all their effort into their next game, so we can soon forget about this misery.