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Super Mario 64 - Gamespot review

TheTrin said:
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"One does not simply 8.0 Super Mario 64."

:lol
 
Raw64life said:
I know they posted a lengthy explination for why they review VC games, but I still think it's dumb as hell.

8.8ing Zelda wasn't enough. Now, given the wonderful re-releases on the virtual console, Gamespot has an excuse to go back and 8 up all Nintendo's classics.
 
jonezer4 said:
8.8ing Zelda wasn't enough. Now, given the wonderful re-releases on the virtual console, Gamespot has an excuse to go back and 8 up all Nintendo's classics.

It`s time we knew the true glory of NFS, MK and Tony Hawk, the way Gamespot intended.
 
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Closing comments:
Altough Ocarina of Time is a solid title, it doesn't hold its own against Gears of War and other 360 games. We enjoyed the game but the lack of HDR and high-res textures is dissapointing. We were shocked by the Lack of orchestrated music or voice acting, wich makes it a claustrophobic experience. The controls feel "tacked on".
 
Slurpy said:
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

GAmespot has sunnk to a new, shitty low. How ridiculous. Not only to they want to piss on Zelda, they want to go back and desecrate absolute classics? Good job, GS. Well done.

Desecrate? Are you...serious? Game Informer (and probably others) go back and re-review old games and classics all the time. Some score lower than they did at first, some score higher now than they did then. Wait, sorry. This is Nintendo, can't do that.

Jebus some people in this forum really, really need to find that stick up their butt and get it out of there and stop taking this shit so seriously. :lol
 
After the GameSpot Wii video, the TP review, the horrible editorial defending the review, and this nonsense, I'm forced to assume GameSpot is actively, deliberately trying to destroy their credibility for some bizarre reason.
 
They might also review some of the really old NES classics. I bet they will complain about the games not being 3-dimensional.
 
Can GAF ban gamespot now? :D

Seriously, over these past few days they seem to have lost all credibility, 8.8 Zelda and now reviewing old classics and giving them bad scores.

Are they really in need of hits that badly?
 
Well they lost their credibility as far as the Nintendo games are concerned anyway, but most of you are such chore, it's like if a game is rated less than 9.6 it's some kind of big shit and it's terrible since the gameranking's score is hurt.
 
Do people not understand the lower score? It's being reviewed as if it were first released now, in comparison with today's games. What, do you honestly think that if Super Mario 64 was first released now, it would deserve a 9.4?
 
Kintaro said:
Desecrate? Are you...serious? Game Informer (and probably others) go back and re-review old games and classics all the time. Some score lower than they did at first, some score higher now than they did then. Wait, sorry. This is Nintendo, can't do that.

Jebus some people in this forum really, really need to find that stick up their butt and get it out of there and stop taking this shit so seriously. :lol

Yup.
 
[Nintex] said:
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Closing comments:
Altough Ocarina of Time is a solid title, it doesn't hold its own against Gears of War and other 360 games. We enjoyed the game but the lack of HDR and high-res textures is dissapointing. We were shocked by the Lack of orchestrated music or voice acting, wich makes it a claustrophobic experience. The controls feel "tacked on".

:lol
 
Xavien said:
Can GAF ban gamespot now? :D

Seriously, over these past few days they seem to have lost all credibility, 8.8 Zelda and now reviewing old classics and giving them bad scores.

Are they really in need of hits that badly?
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Personally, I feel an 8.0 is too high for Mario 64 given that it set the platforming genre back for years with its wretched camera. A lot of the level designs are also pretty bland and the game completely lacked the challenge that helped make its predecessors and many of its peers so great. But that's just my opinion.
 
USD said:
Do people not understand the lower score? It's being reviewed as if it were first released now, in comparison with today's games. What, do you honestly think that if Super Mario 64 was first released now, it would deserve a 9.4?

If it utilised today's technology and hadn't already been released (which means there would be many platformers that lack some of the features they do today), I'd say so.

There's no denying that Super Mario 64 is a classic, and rating it based on today's software is a little unfair, as there have been so many advances, many from Nintendo themselves. Upgrading it is simply out of the question - I want the original game left in place so I can share the same experience that I had ten years ago with my friends and family today.
 
Eddz said:
If it utilised today's technology and hadn't already been released (which means there would be many platformers that lack some of the features they do today), I'd say so.

There's no denying that Super Mario 64 is a classic, and rating it based on today's software is a little unfair, as there have been so many advances, many from Nintendo themselves. Upgrading it is simply out of the question - I want the original game left in place so I can share the same experience that I had ten years ago with my friends and family today.

Exactly. It doesn't have cutting edge graphics that it had when it was first realized, and many platformers have taken stuff from Mario 64 and improved on it, hence why it scored lower.

If you want to play classics, you shouldn't be worrying about scores anyway. All that matters is that the emulation and the controls work.
 
Kintaro said:
Jebus some people in this forum really, really need to find that stick up their butt and get it out of there and stop taking this shit so seriously. :lol

They are? Hmmmm.....
 
USD said:
Exactly. It doesn't have cutting edge graphics that it had when it was first realized, and many platformers have taken stuff from Mario 64 and improved on it, hence why it scored lower.

If they wanted to give it cutting edge graphics, they very easily could, like they do with 90% of their classic updates, but the idea of the virtual console is to keep the games the way they were.

As I mentioned, comparing this to today's games is unfair (to say the very least), but if they are going to compare them, one thing that has to be ruled out is the game's graphics and audio (even though SM64 has a very catchy soundtrack, and the best water world music ever). And gameplay wise, SM64 is still a solid platformer with a lot of fun things to do.

If you want to play classics, you shouldn't be worrying about scores anyway. All that matters is that the emulation and the controls work.

Then perhaps they should be basing their reviews on how true they are to the originals.

I see an "8.0" as a "meh, perhaps I'll consider getting it one day if I'm bored". But SM64 is so much more than that, even if it is old.
 
USD said:
Do people not understand the lower score? It's being reviewed as if it were first released now, in comparison with today's games. What, do you honestly think that if Super Mario 64 was first released now, it would deserve a 9.4?
That's why Mortal Kombat 3 got a 8.3, because by today standards it's better than Mario 64. Now, how the best platformer ever at 10$ gets 7 at value?

Gamespot's proven to be biased against the Wii. Not a big deal, just people should stop clicking on their links just to get upset. Ignore their input, it's worthless.
 
Meh, when are people going to realize that the old games don't stand up? Even the new Sam and Max EPisode 1 got 7.7, and Jeff said it was just as good as the orignal
 
[Nintex] said:
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Closing comments:
Altough Ocarina of Time is a solid title, it doesn't hold its own against Gears of War and other 360 games. We enjoyed the game but the lack of HDR and high-res textures is dissapointing. We were shocked by the Lack of orchestrated music or voice acting, wich makes it a claustrophobic experience. The controls feel "tacked on".


:lol :lol :lol :lol did this really come from GS?
 
WTF is wrong with you people? Don't you get that this isn't a review of Mario 64, but of how well it comes through on VC. And according to the review, its got some technical snags. Hence an 8.0. Maybe I'm over-exxagerating when I say this, but its akin to being mad that the 2600 port of Pac-Man got (or should) have gotten a 1/10. Its not the game, but the port/emulation, and thats not up to snuff.

What if Gamespot gives SMB 3 on VC a 9/10 because the audio isnt emulated properly? You have no idea how anal people are over these things.........actually I thought you guys always were, which is why I don't understand why you don't understand this.

Put simply, its not Super Mario 64 theyare giving an 8.0, but the port/emulation as it is on the Wii's VC.
 
GameSpot: "All your ****ing game hystory sucks, muaaaaaaahahahaha!"

P.S: Really Mario 64 and Sonic are a lot more fun games than the 99% of the games that have an score over 80% at gamespot. They don't know about games, just about graphics and shit.
 
fresquito said:
That's why Mortal Kombat 3 got a 8.3, because by today standards it's better than Mario 64. Now, how the best platformer ever at 10$ gets 7 at value?

Gamespot's proven to be biased against the Wii. Not a big deal, just people should stop clicking on their links just to get upset. Ignore their input, it's worthless.

UMK 3 has added online support, which definitely gave it a score bump. And you're comparing apples with oranges. One's a fighting game, one's a platformer.

Video games aren't ageless. Goldeneye isn't the best FPS anymore, and video games have gotten bigger and better.

And I laugh at people who claim GS is baised against Wii. It just came out for goodness sake, and I've heard GS is baised against GC/Xbox/etc far too much. Maybe GS doesn't think that the Wii isn't the greatest thing since the D-pad, I don't know.

And Yoshi's Island > Super Mario 64.
 
USD said:
UMK 3 has added online support, which definitely gave it a score bump. And you're comparing apples with oranges. One's a fighting game, one's a platformer.

Video games aren't ageless. Goldeneye isn't the best FPS anymore, and video games have gotten bigger and better.

And I laugh at people who claim GS is baised against Wii. It just came out for goodness sake, and I've heard GS is baised against GC/Xbox/etc far too much. Maybe GS doesn't think that the Wii isn't the greatest thing since the D-pad, I don't know.

And Yoshi's Island > Super Mario 64.
Mario 64 is better than MK3, anyday, anyplace, with or without online.

Seeing On the Spot show was enough for me to know what they think about the Wii, and I'm not visiting their site for their big insight on the matter. They don't like the thing? good, I don't like them.
 
anyone who was questioning gamespot's Wii bias can now heartily STFU. seriously... giving mario an 8.0 because of a few very minor emulation issues and the 16:9 stretch (which can be corrected on every single HDTV ever made), is like giving Casablanca a 3 out of 4 because it is in black and white and has no fx shots in it.

I stopped going to gamespot after the Zelda review pretty much. Not because I think guys like Alex and Greg and whatnot are bad, but just because between Gerstmann railing every Wii game and the site's seeming intent to prove that everything with the system from the games to the VC is flawed, unlike Resistance which is one of the best launch titles ever...

Until things change over there I really have no interest in giving them any ad impression revenue or hits.
 
USD said:
Video games aren't ageless.
Pac Man, Sonic the Hedgehog AND Super Mario 64 say "He doesn't know what he's talking about."

Of course great games are ageless. That is what makes them great. UMK3 is almost 10 years old.. almost as old as Mario 64. Why would that still be tons of fun and not SM64?
 
borghe said:
Pac Man, Sonic the Hedgehog AND Super Mario 64 say "He doesn't know what he's talking about."

Of course great games are ageless. That is what makes them great. UMK3 is almost 10 years old.. almost as old as Mario 64. Why would that still be tons of fun and not SM64?
It seems to me that those thinking this way entered gaming not very long ago. I had a blast playing Tecmo Bowl just a couple months ago, and it's God old and awful.
 
no mortal kombat game is even close to mario 64 in terms of quality.

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"ain't no f***in' ballpark neither. now look, maybe your method of rewiewing games differs from mine, but, you know, using the sweep and uppercut over and over, and mario 64, ain't the same f***in' ballpark, it ain't the same league, it ain't even the same f***in' sport. look, gamespot don't mean shit."
 
USD said:
Do people not understand the lower score? It's being reviewed as if it were first released now, in comparison with today's games. What, do you honestly think that if Super Mario 64 was first released now, it would deserve a 9.4?

No, I guess I didn't understand that. How'd I miss that?

(Nintendo would give a game 2 gens a old a 7 in graphics? I'll believe that when I see it.)

The whole thing's pretty stupid, as they're not really reviewing the game as they would today, nor is it a direct rehash of the previous score. They should just rate the emulation: does it play like it did? Does it maybe even play a little better? All this other stuff is inane.
 
borghe said:
Pac Man, Sonic the Hedgehog AND Super Mario 64 say "He doesn't know what he's talking about."

Of course great games are ageless. That is what makes them great. UMK3 is almost 10 years old.. almost as old as Mario 64. Why would that still be tons of fun and not SM64?

Right. All great games age perfectly. So, what, Goldeneye is still the greatest FPS ever? Despite the fact the FPS have gotten improved controls and level design, bigger multiplayer, and moved online? So because Goldeneye got 9.8, it's better than every single other game with a lower score? Relative to its time of release, it is, that's how GS rates its games. But if I were to recommend someone an FPS to play, Goldeneye would be far from the top on my list.
 
borghe said:
anyone who was questioning gamespot's Wii bias can now heartily STFU. seriously... giving mario an 8.0 because of a few very minor emulation issues and the 16:9 stretch (which can be corrected on every single HDTV ever made), is like giving Casablanca a 3 out of 4 because it is in black and white and has no fx shots in it.

I stopped going to gamespot after the Zelda review pretty much. Not because I think guys like Alex and Greg and whatnot are bad, but just because between Gerstmann railing every Wii game and the site's seeming intent to prove that everything with the system from the games to the VC is flawed, unlike Resistance which is one of the best launch titles ever...

Until things change over there I really have no interest in giving them any ad impression revenue or hits.

Pac Man, Sonic the Hedgehog AND Super Mario 64 say "He doesn't know what he's talking about."

Of course great games are ageless. That is what makes them great. UMK3 is almost 10 years old.. almost as old as Mario 64. Why would that still be tons of fun and not SM64?

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I mean seriously dude...
 
Christopher said:
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I mean seriously dude...

replying to an attempt at compiling sound logic with a picture of a justin timberlake album does not qualify as funny or witty--it only confirms that you should stick to the off-topic forum, where having real knowledge about any one topic is not requisite.
 
Coming soon on Gamespot.com, reviews of old movies :
"Citizen Kane:

The good : Well, the great advantage of the DVD is you can select chapters, audios, and you have bonuses ! Great !

The bad : The movie is too slow, with some minor slowdown issues. Only black and with, no HD. Not that much kung fu fights.

Overall :4.8 Great movie but you'd rather go watch the new James Bond"
 
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