Don't worry you can unlock them on the game itself if you don't have certain amiibo! (As far as I know, someone correct me if I'm wrong)
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Don't worry you can unlock them on the game itself if you don't have certain amiibo! (As far as I know, someone correct me if I'm wrong)
What the fuck is this "wait the next day for new unlock tools" bullcrap? I get why they did it with Splatoon, but this isn't even a game, it's a creative tool. Why limit people from day 1? If it's to not intimidate new players why not have, like, a "basic" mode where you only get simple elements? Still excited for Mario Maker, but this is a huge disappointment.
For a game like this, they still need to consider user onboarding experience and initial quality of user-created levels out of the gate. A standard game tutorial or whatever wouldn't really work here. This isn't a bad way to handle it, and there's probably no perfect way to do this.
Omegasquash
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I'm keeping mine, if only so that my son can experiment. I'd also worry that most things online will be too easy. People will try to make some insane level, not be able to beat it, and just continue to water it down until there's not much left but the basics.
Edit: And to the hate that's building on paced tool release...eh. It feels sort of arbitrary I admit, but it's not a game changer. For me, anyway.
Piston Hyundai
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This tool-unlocking shit not only hampers the player's capabilities in making levels, but it's going to make the first wave of user-created levels incredibly basic since this is all anybody is going to have to work with.
Want to play a Bowser level? You'll have to wait three fucking days after launch.
Want to play a Bowser level? You'll have to wait three fucking days after launch.
Tathanen
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This just in: adults do not need to be taught anything, ever.
ANYWAY it's kind of a drag, but it is what it is. It'll encourage me to make more levels at least, and ensure that I don't ignore half the tools. I'm in no rush.
So wait. It's hardly worthy of the level of anger/disgust that would prompt you to write "three fucking days."
You can't handle the tools!
Considering how long I would be playing this game, I think it's peanuts.
NipplesAndToes23
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Aaaahhh! That Mario Paint music!D
Aah I was wondering what that was supposed to be. No wonder I didn't get it as I never played it. The sound effects look great especially since they come with visual effects too. The music blocks remind me of LBP music levels. I wish Luigi and Kirby didn't require amiibos to play as, but other than that cool.
Would be nice if there was a workaround for some people. They said you had to play for a minimum amount of time as well, so that may be the way to ensure that people have to at least mess with the tools some before they can move the clock forward to unlock more. Maybe?
How about having a system where you have to create, say, 5 levels that you can actually finish before you're allowed to use the full toolset? That would certainly get people adjusted to the game before letting them go crazy. I think limiting tools for full days is an awful way of handling it. Anybody buying Mario Maker is going to be itching to realise all their crazy ideas but will have to wait several days before they can.
Well, I got enough other amiibo to make something fun. The obvious would be trying out Inkling Squid vs. Bloopers or doing a Fire Emblem relay. Sonic in Mario is just the perfect amount of wrong, though.
Honestly, I look forward to trying the editor out. Got some silly, but not completely Kaizo Mario ideas that I want to try. Although, I wonder how you make invisible coin blocks... and if you can put anything in them.
Squall5042
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Are they purposely avoiding saying September 11th?? They always say 11th of September.
The Mystery Mushroom that unlocks them turns into the Leaf in SMB3, Cape in SMW and Propellor Mushroom in NSMB
I guess they're applying the Splatoon gear schedule to unlocking tools in this game.
They shouldn't have to do that for a creative game like this. I understand not wanting to overwhelm players, but why not have a tutorial mode to start or something? People are going to want all the tools as soon as possible!
They shouldn't have to do that for a creative game like this. I understand not wanting to overwhelm players, but why not have a tutorial mode to start or something? People are going to want all the tools as soon as possible!
Chezzymann
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I guess they're doing it like how splatoon did? Still dumb.
Will reviewers have all the content? If not this is gonna get slammed.
Cheat Code
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I wonder if you could get away with shouting "CUNT" as a sound effect and hiding the trigger really well so that the content moderators don't find it.
The freaking out is stupid but it's a legitimate concern. Lol I feel a storm coming.
Glad to see the 3rd party amiibo work, and even more so that the Pokémon ones FINALLY function with anything that isn't Smash.
I'd like to have everything unlocked day one too, or at least, make it so you can unlock it faster yourself (that idea of new batches unlocking every 30 minutes suggested earlier works, too). That said, I find the outrage in this thread blown out of proportion. Yes, it's a nuisance, but at the very worst, it's little more than a week after launch (and this is in the case that you can't, indeed, mess with the internal clock). I find it real hard and surprising to feel actual rage at this.
I'd like to have everything unlocked day one too, or at least, make it so you can unlock it faster yourself (that idea of new batches unlocking every 30 minutes suggested earlier works, too). That said, I find the outrage in this thread blown out of proportion. Yes, it's a nuisance, but at the very worst, it's little more than a week after launch (and this is in the case that you can't, indeed, mess with the internal clock). I find it real hard and surprising to feel actual rage at this.
If you don't have any idea for a cool level or 2 with only using that tileset you lack some imagination.
Or a combination of both?MrBadger said:
Like either wait a day or create 5 levels.
I mean I prefer waiting a day if the toolset I have is shite and have a writer's block in creating a level.
Having everything all at once is a terrible idea though.
they probably don't need to play the level, it's probably a list of assets that the moderators will be able to sample.
Otherwise they've a system that's dumber than I thought.
Yeah I'm wondering this as well. If you play a NSMB themed level and you grab an amiibo block do you will play with the character in 3D?? That would be insanely cool.
You ever play the original Mario games? there's a lot of versatility in just those alone. The best thing about Mario game in general is that how they can use so few things to make such creative and imaginative levels.
Look at Super Mario Bros. 1 and 2 for the biggest and easiest example of excellent obstacle courses with just the basic of items.
I understand wanting all the tools at once, but even so few can give you a great deal to create your stages in a variety of ways. And I am disappointed as well because I wanted to test recreating a couple of Mario 3 stages, but a week is a minor annoyance compared to how long I may be playing this when I can get it.
ElectricBlanketFire
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This is really stupid.
Linkstrikesback
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You can't put goddamn fire flowers down on day 1. What the hell were they thinking?
They don't show up. Amiibo forms are only for 8bit mode. Notice how when they're showing the various tool menus, the AMiibo mushroom is replaced in non 8bit modes (With the propeller mushroom, Racoon leaf and Feather/Cape for the respective eras).
They don't show up. Amiibo forms are only for 8bit mode. Notice how when they're showing the various tool menus, the AMiibo mushroom is replaced in non 8bit modes (With the propeller mushroom, Racoon leaf and Feather/Cape for the respective eras).
Gotdatmoney
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The waiting to unlock sets is dumb. I'll prob just cancel my preorder and wait until everything is unlocked.
Cheat Code
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You don't. The video seemed to explicitly say it was only for SMB levels.
Ancel's stage is totally gonna be this.
I eagerly await someone making a level with a Justin Beiber song throughout
I would imagine the moderators would have devtools to inspect the contents of any custom SFX included in a level. That's how I'd do it, anyway.
Scientist Supreme!
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So a week?
That's so Nintendo.
ElectricBlanketFire
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That is indeed stupid, I mean in 1-1 there's bloody fireflower after all!
The video seemed to imply that you have to play the game to unlock stuff. Or maybe I'm misunderstanding.
Gotdatmoney
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Well 10 days. I may as well shop around for a deal if not everything is gonna be there day 1. I'm not gonna bother playing this day 1 or even 3 with those sets available.