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Super Meat Boy for WiiWare cancelled.
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AndyMoogle
Member
Yes, but that's the way it is and they can't do much about it.Varjet said:
Lone_Prodigy
Member
nvm
Rush2thestart
Member
enzo_gt said:
Cause XBLA and PSN dont have a lot of C grade content, right? There are good games on WiiWare, theyre just not advertised down your throat like on XBL.
It's hard to discern the difference between the good games and the bad games, and its definitely not helped by the fact that the gaming media goes out of their way to ignore the service. Fluidity is probably as good as Super Meat Boy but it doesn't even get a lick of attention due to being on WiiWare.
Oh and WiiWare doesn't have ROM dumps...its the VC. Don't understand how anyone can make this mistake if they own a Wii.
Agent X
Member
[Nintex] said:
I agree with A and B, but I'm not sure what you mean with C. Nintendo does a good job of getting the word out downloadable games with weekly E-mails, and they've certainly been doing it for more than a year. I've got E-mails about WiiWare games from over 2½ years ago.
I'd also add that they need to release many more demos on WiiWare if they want to spur sales.
bernardobri said:
Why can't they? I've seen several well-known downloadable games on both PC and Xbox 360 make the jump to physical discs at retail.
Wait, so Metroid Other M, Kirby, New Super Mario Bros., Donkey Kong Country are 2D "casual" games now? Less complicated than other games is one thing, but not "hardcore"?Lyphen said:
So are we back to 1996? FMVs are the bomb too and Nintendo can't do those neither.User33 said:
bernardobri
Steve, the dog with no powers that we let hang out with us all for some reason
Volcynika said:
About how many units is that LE?
They can't do a regular retail distribution on PC or 360 (revisions that clearly has more features than the ones that could been made on Wiiware, and arguably already a solid fanbase). Then, why would they release a retail version for Wii, which has been already stated with several bottleneck factors? Publishers would essentially put their money on the wrong platform.
Although I think it's more easier to get Super Meat Boy on a retail arcade compilation on 360 with other games, but there's a lot of factors on that matter, I guess.
E-mails? Really? You think having to subscribe to a newsletter is a good way to contact Wii owners about WiiWare games? I'm willing to bet less than 25% of Wii owners are subscribed to Nintendo's WiiWare/DSiWare newsletters.Agent X said:
That isn't a good way to get the word out, don't delude yourself.
Oh man, bringing up Nintendo games to prove a point about games selling well on the Wii. Good thinking, guys (and Other M isn't selling well).
OldJadedGamer
Banned
Rush2thestart said:
Maybe if the DRM wasn't stuck in 1975 where the games are tied to the system only and not the account that purchased them people would give the WiiWare more respect. I purposely ignore all WiiWare games because I know it's like throwing money down a pit. If something happens to my console, the game is gone and I have to purchase it again to get it back.
40MB should be enough for everyone, but seriously, I haven't played SMB because I intended to get the WiiWare version but I don't see exactly what would cause the game to exceed the size-limit.
Poimandres
Member
So, how well do games sell on Wii Ware? I honestly have no idea.
Of course there would be some that sell very little, like all the other digital distribution services, but do some games sell decently?
Of course there would be some that sell very little, like all the other digital distribution services, but do some games sell decently?
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Well World of Goo was the top selling Wiiware game for like...twelve months straight, I kid you not. I have no idea of the actual numbers though.Poimandres said:
Davey Cakes
Member
In the Shop Channel it already tells you how much space you'll have left after you download something. Anyone who's downloaded anything from the Shop Channel should know how it works. I don't see why upping the limit would be a problem as long as people are still warned about what they're getting into, space-wise.
I happen to really enjoy using Nintendo's download service, but it certainly does need a fair amount of tweaking in order to be more effective and customer/developer-friendly. Of course, I don't see any significant changes happening until Wii2.
I happen to really enjoy using Nintendo's download service, but it certainly does need a fair amount of tweaking in order to be more effective and customer/developer-friendly. Of course, I don't see any significant changes happening until Wii2.
Neither on any console. And the game didn't sell on that on the 360; but because is an excellent game.NIN90 said:
Good games bomb on all consoles; there are always outside factors.
Yet, WiiWare got two Lost Winds game,s the Bit.trip series, the games from Shin'en.
Maybe is because of the size of their team (i.e. 2 guys) and was too much work to scale down their concept when they probably have other bigger ideas.
But the Wii not being "hardcore" enough? For 2D "hardcore" games?
Agent X
Member
Lyphen said:
It is a good way to get the word out--not the only way or even the best way, but it's certainly not a bad thing for them to do this.
I can think of many other things that they can and should be doing to promote WiiWare games beyond sending E-mails. For example, if they had an official blog (similar to what Sony does for their systems with PlayStation.Blog, not sure if Microsoft has an equivalent) to give developers and publishers a more direct way of communicating with the userbase, then that would be a great step forward. Some kind of weekly podcast would be nice, too. Of course, releasing more demos would be a great way for Wii owners to get a first-hand taste of the games.
Cat in the Hat
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What the hell man. How can you argue that without some kind of agenda.Apenheul said:
Davey Cakes
Member
I find the aesthetic to be pleasing. I like pointing at the screen. I like the music. It does feel like I'm shopping! What?Amir0x said:
XBLA feels much more streamlined, though. That's where I got Super Meat Boy myself. Worst thing about that service is the points system. Same problem with Ninty. Just let me buy points by the single dollar if I need to. Sheesh.
Cat in the Hat
Member
One of the few things the PS3 got right from the start.Rash said:
Sharkington
Banned
This was the version I planned on buying, but I'm glad it got held up for so long, because that extra time allowed me to realize that I don't want to support the developers. Sucks that it got cancelled, though, for anyone that still wanted to buy it on that platform.
Cosmonaut X
Member
Picked this up in the Steam Sales, so I'm not too fussed on a personal level - I get to play a great version of the game, and the devs get my money.
I am a little surprised at how this has played out though, and the poster above who noted that Team Meat would have been well aware of the 40MB limit when they started - and throughout - development has a good point.
It's a shame to see the game end up missing its original platform entirely, and I think Nintendo are going to have to look at games like this as massive missed opportunities. Thanks to their own inability to meet dev requirements/demands, coupled with Microsoft's aggressive pursuit of compelling content, they are missing out on great games that would have been a boon for the platform.
I am a little surprised at how this has played out though, and the poster above who noted that Team Meat would have been well aware of the 40MB limit when they started - and throughout - development has a good point.
It's a shame to see the game end up missing its original platform entirely, and I think Nintendo are going to have to look at games like this as massive missed opportunities. Thanks to their own inability to meet dev requirements/demands, coupled with Microsoft's aggressive pursuit of compelling content, they are missing out on great games that would have been a boon for the platform.
Cat in the Hat
Member
only thing that would make sense.Amir0x said:
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Eh, I agree with the points you mentioned, but the fact that everything takes so long to load and the fact that there are barely any truly exceptional games on the service make the overall thing feel weak to me.Rash said:
Lost Fragment
Obsessed with 4chan
Sharkington said:
I'm guessing you're a member of PETA?
Cat in the Hat said:
I was just google searching the team to see if they've said any, like, controversial statements. But they seem to be a remarkably lighthearted group of people who are actually really up front and honest about their intentions and have gamer's best interests in heart. Making SMB cheaper at the start, for example, which is really amazing considering how much content it has and how damn good it is. And being steadfast that they don't want to just make a sequel, because "they think they've done everything that needs to be done with the concept." I like their philosophy.
60_gig_PS3
Banned
I have a Mac, a PS3, an iPod, and a Wii how do I play this game?
Cat in the Hat
Member
Yep, got my SMB for 10 bucks on steam. A full 5 bucks cheaper than normal, that was pretty fuckin cool of them to do.Amir0x said:
The Faceless Master
Member
good job with upgrading the features on your updateable consoles Nintendo.