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Survaillance Camera Man is back (Part 7)

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-COOLIO- said:
other ways to be legally annoying:

talking loudly during a movie or in a library
flashing your phones flash light in a theatre or in peoples faces wherever
cutting in line
not returning carts in the parking lot

yet some people here want to praise this dude because he's discovered a novel new way to be legally annoying?
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You missed the point of his videos completely.
 
MicH said:
As a Dane, I completely agree. Had this been done in Denmark people would smile and pose for the camera instead of attacking him. It's odd to see how these people react to it
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Depends on the setting. If it's a bunch of people out having a good time, they probably wouldn't care. But, if I'm working somewhere or talking on the phone and somebody puts a camera right up to me to record what I'm doing, I'd be annoyed by it.

I think you're naive to think that you or any countrymen would be pleased by having a camera held very close to your face, following you around, especially if you're doing something that you consider intimate or private -- like having a quiet phone conversation away from other people or talking on a pay phone.

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There's a guy in one of the videos who is at a Starbucks having what I assume is a business conversation, and he asks pretty politely, "Can you kindly not record me?" And the guy doesn't listen, he just continues. This happens a few times throughout all of the videos, and I think that's where you draw the line between a social experiment and common decency. The reason we allow banks, super markets, the government, and so on, to record us without explicit permission is because we are using their services and we submit to their system of surveillance, which we assume provides some benefit to us by proxy. However, there is almost zero presumed benefit of being intimately recorded by a complete stranger on the street, and a distinct number of reasons why you wouldn't want to be recorded (eg, you don't know what this footage is going to be used for).
 
kingslunk said:
You missed the point of his videos completely.
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And what, pray tell, is the "point" of standing in front of a taxi driver and impeding his ability to do his job? What's the point of following around and filming destitute, clearly mentally ill people for mindless youtube kicks?
 
Label said:
Why would it matter if your son was there?
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My son is 7 years old and is unable to understand the reality of what being filmed by a complete stranger entails. The last thing I'd want is for my son to be the subject of a sickos YouTube collection.
 
Zeliard said:
And what, pray tell, is the "point" of standing in front of a taxi driver and impeding his ability to do his job? What's the point of following around and filming destitute, clearly mentally ill people for mindless youtube kicks?
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But dude it's so deep and meaningful and, like, people are, like, filmed all the time because of CCTV and stuff and this guy totally makes the point that people don't like it when other people do it but when it's, like, the state and... stuff, then it's totally cool.

Dislike this guy, he's just an annoying ass in my opinion.
 
He can sure run.



If Youtube can ban a lot of other videos including the ventrilo harassment, why is this guy still there?
 
Why do people wish harm on this dude? I mean I understand getting pissed at him for standing in the way of the cab but other than that he's just filming adults. There's a guy like this in downtown Los Angeles that walks around filming everything. I've actually talked to him for a few minutes and he says he does it solely because he's bored. I've never once thought of punching this guy for something as trivial as filming.
 
bender said:
We really have no idea how long he films for and how much footage is on the cutting floor. He's also antagonistic as evidenced by blocking a taxi at an intersection. I'm pretty sure the same reactions could be evoked in any country in the world.
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The Albatross said:
Depends on the setting. If it's a bunch of people out having a good time, they probably wouldn't care. But, if I'm working somewhere or talking on the phone and somebody puts a camera right up to me to record what I'm doing, I'd be annoyed by it.

I think you're naive to think that you or any countrymen would be pleased by having a camera held very close to your face, following you around, especially if you're doing something that you consider intimate or private -- like having a quiet phone conversation away from other people or talking on a pay phone.

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There's a guy in one of the videos who is at a Starbucks having what I assume is a business conversation, and he asks pretty politely, "Can you kindly not record me?" And the guy doesn't listen, he just continues. This happens a few times throughout all of the videos, and I think that's where you draw the line between a social experiment and common decency. The reason we allow banks, super markets, the government, and so on, to record us without explicit permission is because we are using their services and we submit to their system of surveillance, which we assume provides some benefit to us by proxy. However, there is almost zero presumed benefit of being intimately recorded by a complete stranger on the street, and a distinct number of reasons why you wouldn't want to be recorded (eg, you don't know what this footage is going to be used for).
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Of course, any person would be annoyed if he kept on filming like he does in some of these - or blocking the taxi. What I'm talking about is, that some of these attack him as soon as they find out - like the phone guy in the first few seconds. I think that's a bit much - not the reactions when he keeps on filming or annoys them
 
There is no point to what he's doing. It's almost left open for interpretation. Some are disgusted by his actions and attack the person behind the camera which remains anonymous while others see something else. His videos border on harassment imo. It's still fascinating to watch.
 
Aww the dude eating french fries and about to glurp the ketchup packet, he was really surprised

The only ones I didn't like was the ones he went out of his way trying to harass people
Listen you can film whatever you want in public, but don't go poking into personal spaces and trying to agitate people

Cool you got up close, got the so called "money shot", just move back and be at least tolerable to others
If you keep bothering the same institution over and over, that is not funny at all
 
MicH said:
As a Dane, I completely agree. Had this been done in Denmark people would smile and pose for the camera instead of attacking him. It's odd to see how these people react to it
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It's obvious he antagonizes people quite a bit, he also gets incredibly close to some of them. He even blocked traffic by standing in front of that taxi and kept moving in front of it when the guy tried to go around him. There is something wrong with this guy. Not to mention, like bender stated, we have no idea how long he has been recording and what he has spliced out of the videos.
 
richardhawk said:
Why do people wish harm on this dude? I mean I understand getting pissed at him for standing in the way of the cab but other than that he's just filming adults. There's a guy like this in downtown Los Angeles that walks around filming everything. I've actually talked to him for a few minutes and he says he does it solely because he's bored. I've never once thought of punching this guy for something as trivial as filming.
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You talked to him? He actually had a normal conversation with you? The problem is that this guy is basically staring at the people, and barely responds if spoken to. It is very unnerving to some.
 
The most boring prank videos on the internet.

Particle Physicist said:
You talked to him? He actually had a normal conversation with you? The problem is that this guy is basically staring at the people, and barely responds if spoken to. It is very unnerving to some.
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Just one more crazy person in Seattle.
 
Particle Physicist said:
You talked to him? He actually had a normal conversation with you? The problem is that this guy is basically staring at the people, and barely responds if spoken to. It is very unnerving to some.
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Not the same person. We have someone similar to "camera man" in my area. He walks around with either his phone or a small camera filming everything.
 
TheJLC said:
Heh... People don't realize that what's he's doing is already happening.
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Other shitheads posting videos like this on YouTube? Probably.

If you're thinking he's drawing an accurate portrayal of the "surveillance state" you're woefully mistaken.
 
richardhawk said:
Why do people wish harm on this dude? I mean I understand getting pissed at him for standing in the way of the cab but other than that he's just filming adults. There's a guy like this in downtown Los Angeles that walks around filming everything. I've actually talked to him for a few minutes and he says he does it solely because he's bored. I've never once thought of punching this guy for something as trivial as filming.
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I don't wish harm on him but I think he's an asshole. He follows people, filming them, sometimes goes way to close into personal space, doesn't respond to people's worried questions, and won't leave even when told they don't want to be filmed. Some people justified it in prior threads by comparing it to a security cam in a store, but that's not the same situation at all. People know what happens to security cameras and the footage taken; they don't know what some creep following them around is going to do with the footage. The fact they're uploaded on YouTube with the faces not blurred out is proof enough that the guy is an ass.

TBH, I'd find the guy annoying even if he didn't have a camera. He'd still be following people around, not answering questions, getting all up in personal space, etc. Those kind of people tend to be kind of creepy or annoying (depends on context).
 
This guy is not smart. There are a lot of crazy people in the world and someone is just going to pull out a gun and shoot him without asking questions. Sure hope his 300K youtube hits are worth that
 
Heh. I like his stuff. Don't much care for whether his filming is annoying or if his subjects aren't ok with it, honestly that makes it even better, though i do wish he would do more candid and/or photojournalistic stuff. But that would be beside the point of his videos, i suppose.

I hope the drug lady is fine.
 
Really weird that people are ok with this but are afraid of "big brother" doing it? hipocrisy at its finest.

I dont approve of an idiot doing this for his own entertainment nor the government having cameras everywhere I go.

Yea it might be HILARIOUS when you are watching these videos about other people but when someone does this to you or your family, it wont be all fun and games. Some of you pretend to be all ok about it but I bet you wouldnt appreciate this being done to you or those you care about. (Think of this, what would you do if some creep was recording your wife when you guys were in the park?....laugh it off? "Oh honey dont be a party pooper! He is one of us! Let him have his fun! This is all normal, not creepy at all!") I dont really like posting pictures of myself online or having tons of social site memberships so I wouldnt like some kid recording me and then placing those pics/videos of me on the net when Im in the first place avoiding that. Not hard to understand but still I guess people like to be entertained and dont care.

This kid can keep doing this but then he gets a beat down, Im gonna be laughing my ass off and spreading the video online so I guess its ok at the end. Gotta be like the rest amiright?
 
I think I'd break his camera.

That mentally ill woman was somewhat fascinating. Seems like her mental state deteriorated from the cause of excessive drug consumption, just going by what she was rambling on about (not even aware if that's possible). Or it's probably looking too deeply for meaning in what she says. Whether it's schizophrenia or something similar, it's pretty sad.
 
Fascinating stuff but He should not have blocked the Taxi driver .. standing there and being annoying is one thing but preventing a guy from doing his job is another

and that poor lady :(
 
For anyone saying stuff like "it's a wonder he hasn't gotten his ass kicked", this last video looked pretty damn close to it happening, from more than one person.

I agree that this schtick is wearing thin and it is hardly about some kind of statement; it's just trolling.
 
You gotta love the apologists for this guy. It's like a broken record that seems to keep playing during each of these threads.

Defending this type of behavior is bizzare and shameful.
 
I love this guy's videos. It amazes me how bent of of shape people get about being recorded. However, when he does things like blocks taxi drivers, interrupts private meetings, or disrupts classrooms, I feel that he crosses the line.
 
BPoole said:
I love this guy's videos. It amazes me how bent of of shape people get about being recorded. However, when he does things like blocks taxi drivers, interrupts private meetings, or disrupts classrooms, I feel that he crosses the line.
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Does it really amaze you? Really, though? This is looks very annoying.
 
Disrupting classrooms, stopping people from doing their jobs, following people down the street and continuous harassment after he's asked to leave. The guy is an asshole through and through.
 
Buzzati said:
Does it really amaze you? Really, though? This is looks very annoying.
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Yeah, it does. It would take quite a bit for me to initiate a physical altercation with someone. If someone was recording me, I would get annoyed, so I would just walk away or ignore the person. If he was following me for several minutes, maybe then he'd get a rise out of me, but most of these people apeshit within 10 seconds.
 
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