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SW FU Demo: When is it up?
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played it earlier today and really liked it. Convinced me to pick the game up next month. It's not perfect (I wish the camera controls were faster, and the framerate wasn't any kind of stable) but I thought it was fun to use the force powers, which is what the game is really all about.
Not so pleased that the fight with the AT-ST at the end resulted in a QTE. I went back and forth with the thing for 20 mintues only to finally die, then on my second attempt realized I just had to trigger the QTE for the easy win. I really wish games would get away from taking control from the player to make them do "something cool" via a QTE. This game has plenty of cool without that crap.
Not so pleased that the fight with the AT-ST at the end resulted in a QTE. I went back and forth with the thing for 20 mintues only to finally die, then on my second attempt realized I just had to trigger the QTE for the easy win. I really wish games would get away from taking control from the player to make them do "something cool" via a QTE. This game has plenty of cool without that crap.
The controls were complex enough that I foolishly died a few times because I pushed the wrong button (do we have to use every button on the pad??) but after a bit I really got it and I think this game looks really good. I'm definitely interested in it now. I might not pick it up day one, but it's certainly on my radar now, which is usually not the case for a licensed game, even if it's Star Wars.
I kinda felt that jumping was pointless. Maybe they should have just gotten rid of that button.
Throwing storm troopers around is hilariously fun.
I kinda felt that jumping was pointless. Maybe they should have just gotten rid of that button.
Throwing storm troopers around is hilariously fun.
I was vey excited for this game before the demo but now I a on the fence.
- it's way to easy
- camera is horrible
- no enemy AI to speak of
It just doesn't feel right. The game really just tries to make you feel like a badass and nothing more. Jedi Knight 2 still remains the best Jedi action game.
- it's way to easy
- camera is horrible
- no enemy AI to speak of
It just doesn't feel right. The game really just tries to make you feel like a badass and nothing more. Jedi Knight 2 still remains the best Jedi action game.
Xater said:
Yeah the enemies were pretty easy once I figured out the controls well enough, though it could easily be that they tuned this down for the demo or that it's an earlier stage. I'm going to keep an eye on the review because later levels could be different. Same goes with people's complaints about repetition.
Although usually in demos game companies put their absolute best foot forward (eg Bioshock) so maybe the plainness and simpleness of this demo is a bad sign...
AgentOtaku
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Ryu said:
yeah...I just wish they would have had recenter mapped to R1 (or any button)though instead ala MGS4, Ninja Gaiden, Ratchet and Clank, etc.
VibratingDonkey
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Breakdancing stormtroopers, wheeeeee!!! It is a bit reminiscent of Psi-Ops indeed. It kind of sucks that you can't move around while breakdancing stormtroopers though, and they fade away way too fast. That QTE simply shouldn't be there. Other stuff etc. Ultimately it's a pretty good, entertaining game, but not as good as I think it could've been.
Btw, I managed to get stormtroopers to hold hands, it was a lovely moment. Then I killed them.
Btw, I managed to get stormtroopers to hold hands, it was a lovely moment. Then I killed them.
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Speevy said:
the point is at some point u get to turn on him
ps what the hell wrong with the apprentice eyes they look really odd
Whimsical Phil
Ninja School will help you
How many people did you MURDER while playing that demo, Mr. Good Guy?Speevy said:
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Pretty fun, although I wish the environments weren't so sparse.
I might pick it up.
I might pick it up.
Speevy said:
obviously you didnt unloc the force "sack" removal choke move. Seriously messes people up. or the force "pull ringpiece through neck" move. Then you feel evil...
Actually thats a really good point shouldnt you be an evil sadistic bastard revelling in the death and carnage and doing horrible things to people with the choke powers?
AgentOtaku
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Whimsical Phil said:
exactly...."play" with some of the enemies and they quickly start pleading for their life and begging
Remeber your slaughtering both Storm Troopers and Rebel Alliance....not to mention what other kind of stuff later on that's presumabely neutral or innocent
AgentOtaku
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or you can just slash at it's legs
AgentOtaku
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or throw people at it 
ClivePwned
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its a single player game on next gen isn't it? I know the PSP and Wii versions both have different types of MP (versus rather than co-op).
AgentOtaku
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...Ok seriously....anyone having issues with the camera, be sure to turn IT ALL THE WAY UP in the options menu
...this is pretty much solved any quams I had with it
...this is pretty much solved any quams I had with it
Patrick Bateman
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Doodlebug said:
I just like to throw living troopers off cliffs and against by flying tie-fighters. <3
Illuminati
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While picking up a storm trooper with the force, get another storm trooper to hold hands. While holding hands, start singing "A Whole New World" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9-CS2v8wcc) as you make them dance in the air. Then finally throw them both of the edge into the infinite abyss.Speevy said:
If that is not evil, I do not know what is.
Patrick Bateman
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Brashnir said:
I was so sad, when I realised that I can't forcegrab them.
But moving the steel beam in their way was quite satisifing, too. :lol
I'm not reading through 7 pages I missed so, did anyone mention the "auto-force-aim" ?
You know, that blue square that moves automatically to tell you where your next force push will go or what you'll lift if you press the proper button/trigger ?
Am I the only one thinking they totally messed that up ? A lot of the time, I'd find myself right in FRONT of a object (like, the thing is almost at my feet), and the blue square would actually stay on something that's on the side instead of going where I'm looking.
Meaning that in combat, I see like 5 ennemies at the same place, I charge a giga-forcepush of mega-death to stun them a bit before I go all saber with them, aaaaaannnddd the moment I release the force push button the force push goes NOT right where I'm looking, but right to the fucking trooper ALL ALONE on my right side. And when I say he was on my right side, I mean he is totally off-screen during the whole move. UGH.
Why didn't they use Jedi Knight's third person controls (when you put out your lightsaber) ? At least I could make lighting where I wanted to. Because lightning is also a victim of that blue square, no what you would be able to "enlighten" whoever you want.
And let's say they were afraid the casuals would be disturbed by third person controls and they really wanted that auto aim, they could at the very least have this blue reticle follow the player's view, dammit.
At one point I had two Stormpers taking cover behind a crate. I instinctively wanted to force push the crate into their faces. But nooo because Mister Blue Square just wouldn't go to that crate, and if I'd press RB (lock target), it would aim at one of the stormtroopers, and not the crate.
So I went back and forth, little to the left, or to the right, to try and make that stupid blue square to go on the crate I wanted to move, but with all the "liftable" things in the area the damn reticle just couldn't help but change target every half second. I was getting shot, so I said "fuck that" and finally blew them up in the classic way. But meh.
What's the point of being able to move about everything in the scene if you can't choose what you want to move ?
Maybe I'm just playing it wrong, I played it three times, I messed around with the options, and the problem's still there
Of course, isn't that obvious
I used mine to mop the floor breakdance style
You know, that blue square that moves automatically to tell you where your next force push will go or what you'll lift if you press the proper button/trigger ?
Am I the only one thinking they totally messed that up ? A lot of the time, I'd find myself right in FRONT of a object (like, the thing is almost at my feet), and the blue square would actually stay on something that's on the side instead of going where I'm looking.
Meaning that in combat, I see like 5 ennemies at the same place, I charge a giga-forcepush of mega-death to stun them a bit before I go all saber with them, aaaaaannnddd the moment I release the force push button the force push goes NOT right where I'm looking, but right to the fucking trooper ALL ALONE on my right side. And when I say he was on my right side, I mean he is totally off-screen during the whole move. UGH.
Why didn't they use Jedi Knight's third person controls (when you put out your lightsaber) ? At least I could make lighting where I wanted to. Because lightning is also a victim of that blue square, no what you would be able to "enlighten" whoever you want.
And let's say they were afraid the casuals would be disturbed by third person controls and they really wanted that auto aim, they could at the very least have this blue reticle follow the player's view, dammit.
At one point I had two Stormpers taking cover behind a crate. I instinctively wanted to force push the crate into their faces. But nooo because Mister Blue Square just wouldn't go to that crate, and if I'd press RB (lock target), it would aim at one of the stormtroopers, and not the crate.
So I went back and forth, little to the left, or to the right, to try and make that stupid blue square to go on the crate I wanted to move, but with all the "liftable" things in the area the damn reticle just couldn't help but change target every half second. I was getting shot, so I said "fuck that" and finally blew them up in the classic way. But meh.
What's the point of being able to move about everything in the scene if you can't choose what you want to move ?
Maybe I'm just playing it wrong, I played it three times, I messed around with the options, and the problem's still there
Doodlebug said:
Of course, isn't that obvious
I used mine to mop the floor breakdance style
AgentOtaku
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Defuser said:
yeah I barely use lockon at all at this point....obviously it'll be necessary though for Bosses and other Jedi
Illuminati
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I played through the demo again trying some of the things you guys mentioned like breaking the windows, which causes the air to escape from the ship. I had no idea you can force lift someone, throw your lightsaber into them, and finally force throw them away. That is so fucking rad. I'm finding out other combinations as well like jumping off the walls and things like that.
Academy > OutcastRouter said:
commariodore64
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After DL the PS3 version and running them side by side (HDMI for both on a Samsung 1080p set) - the PS3 version seems a little softer (up-rezzed?) and actually ran worse in a few areas. It also seems to have some non-normal mapped textures or lower rez ones. The Both do have slight tearing in odd areas. -I'd call it a wash between the 2 versions. Nothing really glaring.AgentOtaku said:Finally!
Observations:
- Playstation3 audio indeed has DTS
- Audio overall has more "oomph" to it...especially on the low-end
- Controls feel more fluid due to analogs...force pushing/pulling in particular felt ALOT easier to pull off
- Performance did seem slightly better on PS3 version...especially during a heavy physics scene, like when you force push a corridor filled with stuff/dudes. Tearing though, seemed about the same....which means, barely there
- Loadtimes seemed the same...though will have to play again to be sure
- obviously dashing/locking with L1 and R1 feels more natural
So that's that. Definetely buying the PS3 version to be sure
Speevy said:
As others have said, you have to be a bit creative. You need to think like Sith.
Force grip a Rebel trooper and kill him by repeatedly beating his body against the ceiling. Pick up a Stromtrooper, hold him over the void, and let him go (you get the "long way down" bonus for this, BTW). Hold a Rebel trooper in front of you, watch him squirm and plead a bit, and then kill him with a saber throw.
I'm usually all about being a goody-two-shoes in video games, but give me the chance to be a dark Jedi and I'm all over it. I haven't had this much fun with a Star Wars game since I made party members kill each other in KoTOR or Force choked every living thing I saw as a DJK in SWG.
The only thing that will ruin TFU for me at this point is if there's no way to stay an evil, sadistic mofo throughout the game. Sadly, that's probably what will happen.
Yes. Target selection is completely fucked up.Ramenman said:
When you use the actual lock-on function, it's even more jarring. The game will select whatever is closest to you. It pays no attention at all to forward or backward. Try standing very close but ahead of some of the (harmless) robots in the hallway while being shot at, and pressing the target lock-on. You will turn around 180° and target the fucking robot.
Randy Lanzarote
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Oooooohh...
Academy had the benefit of improved lightsaber combat and having force powers right from the beginning of the game.
Outcast has Kyle Katarn and a much better story.
Tough one that.... I always hoped they could make another Jedi Knight game incorparting the best of both games (Katarn with a saberstaff)
I love doing all that, but only when there's only one ennemy left. I feel dumb when playing with an ennemy when 5 of them are shooting at me.
bcn-ron said:
phew, so I'm not the only one.
Of course you can play without minding whatever you want to push/lift and still be efficient, but to me the shitty aiming is quite a drawback.
Also, isn't the throwing mechanic (throwing, not force push) a bit broken ? You can't throw where you're looking. You can only throw on a horizontal plan (left stick) or a vertical plan (right stick).
Throwing with the right stick is actually quite fun (that's how you smack troopers against walls, floor or ceiling), but when I try to throw with the left stick from a distance, it just never goes where I think it will.
I still feel like I had more fun with Jedi Academy or Outcast, that makes me wanna try the Wii version.
Fallout-NL
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Yeah, Outcast was better. No great loss though, since I've directed my funds elsewhere, namely Mercenaries 2. Which looks absolutely ridiculous (in a good way).