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[nkarafo]

Seems we can't discuss emulation in GAF anymore. Thankfully there are good emulation topics in other sites with properly set rules. Still, i wish to be able to discuss this in GAF and even have a unique emulation section like the offtopic and politics.

Honestly, Not sure how emulation of a currently sold device, in it's prime, can even be a good thing, for anyone.

Emulators need years to mature. Even decades. Right now yuzu can't replace a real Switch. Even Cemu can't fully replace a WiiU. Not to mention even older console emus that are decades in development and still can't play all games properly.

So having the development start early is good for everyone. Don't worry though, you probably won't see an accurate Switch emulator with 100% compatibility in your lifetime.

 

[MagnesG]

Seems we can't discuss emulation in GAF anymore. Thankfully there are good emulation topics in other sites with properly set rules. Still, i wish to be able to discuss this in GAF and even have a unique emulation section like the offtopic and politics.

Discuss all you want, you shouldn't feel bad if you're not doing it.

 

[Lionel Richie]

Corporate shills need to understand, emulators are legal. Roms and how you obtain them is another topic. But this is about emulation. So please stop derailing every emulation thread. I remember when this was bannable some time ago.

Your Nintendo stocks plummeted or something?

Okay Dr. nkarafo, attorney at law. Listen man. What every emulation thread? I absolutely LOVE emulation and everything it represents for the industry. At no point did I want to have a strictly legal debate on this matter, but rather a moral one. I feel like it's at least DEBATABLE if it's morally adequate on this very specific case, you feel differently. Cool. I disagree with the wink wink rule of EMULATOR LEGAL, OBTAINING ROMS BAD and I don't even think it applies to the discussion at hand, you're also free to view this differently. Oh and my Nintendo stocks are fine bro, don't worry about them.

You Yuzu super fans need to chill out about this. I understand. It's annoying. You want to talk about 75% playable games and not engage on the topic of whether that's actually good for the industry. What I said was very poorly received, I get it, not everything is going to be a hit. When the feds hit the place and told me to just shut up about it, I was about ready to do so and go on with my life. But you guys are not content with that and seem to want to just beat a dead horse. In sum:

So I'm self-banning myself from this thread unless you super fun chads summon me back in again to have a philosophical debate. If you don't want that, please let me go. Don't try to dunk on me though, I'm UNDUNKABLE.

 

[nkarafo]

Discuss all you want, you shouldn't feel bad if you're not doing it.

There's barely any discussion taking place here that's on topic.

Lionel Richie

This happens in every emulation thread. Maybe not by you or someone specific. But every thread will eventually get derailed by someone until theres no discussion to be had. I do remember GAF had setup rules for that at some point for emulation threads but maybe they got forgotten after the exodus drama.

 

[MagnesG]

There's barely any discussion taking place here that's on topic.

@ Lionel Richie

This happens in every emulation thread. Maybe not by you or someone specific. But every thread will eventually get derailed by someone until theres no discussion to be had. I do remember GAF setup rules for that at some point but maybe they got forgotten after the exodus drama.

You would have to have a Switch to even dump a legal copy, and there are some users who didn't even know that yet still posts about emulation. Guess how they get those? Bunch of pirates masking on the "preservation" front.

This is still part of the discussion btw, an ongoing one.

 

[teezzy]

If you weren't going to buy it anyway, then it in no way takes money away from the creators.

 

[Graciaus]

Stop bumping the damn thread with the bitching about piracy. Makes it look like there is more progress then there is. No one cares about your opinion on what you think is or isn't piracy.

 

[Allnamestakenlol]

You could just buy a switch...

If there was a switch pro, I would. Until there is, I'll just wait until emulation is in a better state, then I'll pick a switch up on the cheap for a clear conscience.

 

[petran79]

If there was a switch pro, I would. Until there is, I'll just wait until emulation is in a better state, then I'll pick a switch up on the cheap for a clear conscience.

Ι'll buy a Switch mini in 20 years with 20 emulated games bundle for 80 euro

 

[DGrayson]

Emulation discussion on GAF is perfectly allowed. We dont encourage piracy and dont post links to ROM sites/ROMs and you will be fine. There is a long running Retroarch discussion and plenty of other topics on Emulation so everyone chill please.

 

[MagnesG]

Stop bumping the damn thread with the bitching about piracy. Makes it look like there is more progress then there is. No one cares about your opinion on what you think is or isn't piracy.

There's more progress though.

 

[Kazza]

3D World/Bowser's Fury looking great at 60 fps with no obvious glitches:

The footage is apparently from a 1070ti PC, so not a monster PC by any standards.

 

[Holammer]

Here is a video of Reznoire playing the game with a beefy top of the line CPU (i9-10900). Framerate hitches are nonexistent except for typical streaming cases. 4:55 for an example. Better performance than the real deal.
Now if people can figure out a hack to unlock photo mode settings for better shadows and draw distances.

 

[KyoZz]

Bowser Fury work flawlessly, but too bad the game run in 1080p. It really is aliased, if someone know a mod to up the resolution please let me know !

 

[Sentenza]

Just for the record, according to some Yuzu devs on Twitter, resolution scaling should be just around the corner.

 

[martino]

Just for the record, according to some Yuzu devs on Twitter, resolution scaling should be just around the corner.

 

[Holammer]

Bowser Fury work flawlessly, but too bad the game run in 1080p. It really is aliased, if someone know a mod to up the resolution please let me know !

Ryujinx can do resolution scaling. Try that.

 

[KyoZz]

Just for the record, according to some Yuzu devs on Twitter, resolution scaling should be just around the corner.

It's about damn time. Never understood why they take it out, just put a big warning like "THIS IS NOT A FINAL BUILD" and that's all.

Ryujinx can do resolution scaling. Try that.

Yeah I know, but I support Yuzu on Patreon and I prefer to stick with it for now.
How complicated it is to configure and how are the performance compared to Yuzu ?

 

[Holammer]

It's about damn time. Never understood why they take it out, just put a big warning like "THIS IS NOT A FINAL BUILD" and that's all.



Yeah I know, but I support Yuzu on Patreon and I prefer to stick with it for now.
How complicated it is to configure and how are the performance compared to Yuzu ?

It's pretty straightforward, tried it yesterday.
Feels a bit rougher, they call it experimental for a reason. But Mario Kart looked fabulous with it.

 

[Sentenza]

and how are the performance compared to Yuzu ?

Generally speaking: abysmal in most cases.
Which is bizarre, because there was a time where Ryujinx was consistently ahead in performances on the same title... Then they went silent for few months while Yuzu kept progressing steadily and Ryujinx never caught up with it again.

 

[MagnesG]

Ya'll are just a bunch of filthy pirates, the game doesn't come out yet so where does you guys get a copy? From the internet lol.

This is how people never take on the "preservation" or performance narrative seriously. I bet almost 90% of these pc whores won't even bought games ever, just pirating everything. Free gaems amirite?

If you're not then good for you. What's obvious here is pretty obvious though.

 

[Sentenza]

Ya'll are just a bunch of filthy pirates, the game doesn't come out yet so where does you guys get a copy? From the internet lol.

This is how people never take on the "preservation" or performance narrative seriously. I bet almost 90% of these pc whores won't even bought games ever, just pirating everything. Free gaems amirite?

If you're not then good for you. What's obvious here is pretty obvious though.

No one gives a shit.

 

[MagnesG]

No one gives a shit.

Yeah feeling good huh? Keep up the good work.

 

[onnextflix5]

Bowser Fury work flawlessly, but too bad the game run in 1080p. It really is aliased, if someone know a mod to up the resolution please let me know !

Its runs at 720p, not 1080p, try Ryujinx in 4k, it looks beautiful but performance is not there yet, maybe in a year.

 

[Sentenza]

Yeah feeling good huh? Keep up the good work.

I'm serious.
Most of us just don't give a shit.

Because how people got their copy is none of our business to begin with.
Because Nintendo is not our friend and arguing about their well being is not exactly our main concern.
Because "preservation" is a real thing that matters over time regardless of individual cases or motivations on the short term.
Because piracy exists outside of emulation (pirating games on Switch is trivially easy in itself) while conversely emulation itself is legal no matter how much that makes some anus bleed.

In short, you can keep trying to exasperate and nag people until you'll be blue in the face, we still won't give a shit about it and law happens to be on our side.

 

[Reindeer]

PCMR FTW!!!

 

[MagnesG]

I'm serious.
Most of us just don't give a shit.

Because how people got their copy is none of our business to begin with.
Because Nintendo is not our friend and arguing about their well being is not exactly our main concern.
Because "preservation" is a real thing that matters over time regardless of individual cases or motivations on the short term.
Because piracy exists outside of emulation (pirating games on Switch is trivially easy in itself) while conversely emulation itself is legal no matter how much that makes some anus bleed.

In short, you can keep trying to exasperate and nag people until you'll be blue in the face, we still won't give a shit about it and law happens to be on our side.

Idk much about how this is called nagging, but the act of posting footages of unreleased games emulated pretty much proves how whack those stances some of you have been preaching from the emulation high grounds.

It's not even an argument about Nintendo itself, it's about being proud and obnoxious that Nintendo games have been successfully pirated, yeay no need to buy anything except ya'll won't ever buy it anyway.

 

[Imru’ al-Qays]

I don't mind emulation of past consoles, but emulation of current consoles is just piracy that I can't get behind.

Think of it as an incentive for Nintendo to not let their hardware fall too far behind the competitors.

 

[alabtrosMyster]

Ya'll are just a bunch of filthy pirates, the game doesn't come out yet so where does you guys get a copy? From the internet lol.

This is how people never take on the "preservation" or performance narrative seriously. I bet almost 90% of these pc whores won't even bought games ever, just pirating everything. Free gaems amirite?

If you're not then good for you. What's obvious here is pretty obvious though.

I have a brother in law who works at a big games studio as a programmer, he has terabytes upon terabytes of pirated games... Don't talk to him about guilt.

Anyway, free games are great, Epic gives me at least one per week! legal and all!

and yeah, sure, it must be saddening for all these not sold copies... but more seriously, it improves the game over the official release, just that should make Nintendo embarrassed about their hardware choices as opposed to you being upset because people are bad.

Think of it as an incentive for Nintendo to not let their hardware fall too far behind the competitors.

I think people buy the switch because they like the color scheme anyway.

 

[_oni_]

Idk much about how this is called nagging, but the act of posting footages of unreleased games emulated pretty much proves how whack those stances some of you have been preaching from the emulation high grounds.

It's not even an argument about Nintendo itself, it's about being proud and obnoxious that Nintendo games have been successfully pirated, yeay no need to buy anything except ya'll won't ever buy it anyway.

Nonsense, people who just pirate games wouldn't buy them anyway.
On the other end i (seldomly) pirate games that i already bought just because extracting the iso/rom is too much of a hassle. It may be illegal but it's certainly not unethical and does no harm at all to developers.

 

[IbizaPocholo]

 

[jaysius]

Modders do what Nintendon't(give a fuck about becaus they rake money in the laziest fucking way they can).

 

[Virt McPolygon]

Idk much about how this is called nagging, but the act of posting footages of unreleased games emulated pretty much proves how whack those stances some of you have been preaching from the emulation high grounds.

It's not even an argument about Nintendo itself, it's about being proud and obnoxious that Nintendo games have been successfully pirated, yeay no need to buy anything except ya'll won't ever buy it anyway.

I own a Switch and many games legitimately. Do I want to occasionally also play those games I own on my PC at a minimum of 1080p and 60fps like Breath of the Wild? Yes.

Why don't you click on this

up in the corner instead of repeatedly coming in here to nag and accuse others of piracy?

 

[nkarafo]

I think it's time for me to dive in, Switch emulation seems to be in a good place.

So, Yuzu or Ryujinx? What are the main differences?

Also, does any of them support pre-calculated caches to avoid shader compilation stutters? Like CEMU has?

Also @ everyone: Just ignore the virtue signal trolls.

 

[KungFucius]

I am tempted to try some games on it. Switch is so underpowered, but it gets the job done and I would hate to play some new game on it and have it glitch. Maybe I will replay some classics on this in a few years when it is closer to 100% compatible.

Though this is a reasonable solution to joystick drift.

 

[mcjmetroid]

Idk much about how this is called nagging, but the act of posting footages of unreleased games emulated pretty much proves how whack those stances some of you have been preaching from the emulation high grounds.

It's not even an argument about Nintendo itself, it's about being proud and obnoxious that Nintendo games have been successfully pirated, yeay no need to buy anything except ya'll won't ever buy it anyway.

If this is your main concern you must have nothing to worry In real life.

Nobody needs to justify themselves to you. Ever.
You however need to spend more time worrying about other things in your life

Get a life.

 

[mcjmetroid]

I think it's time for me to dive in, Switch emulation seems to be in a good place.

So, Yuzu or Ryujinx? What are the main differences?

Also, does any of them support pre-calculated caches to avoid shader compilation stutters? Like CEMU has?

Also @ everyone: Just ignore the virtue signal trolls.

I don't think my pc is in a good place to let you know properly about the Emulation quality.i think the emulator is not quite there yet either. Despite videos telling you otherwise on YouTube etc.

Buuut from my research.

I think yuzu is better for now. Super mario odyssey is very playable on a stronger pc than mine.

For the WiiU ports still use Cemu though for instance of course breath of the wild.

Yuzu as far as I can tell from videos is very strong at odyssey ,Luigi's mansion 3, mario kart 8 deluxe. That I know of.

But generally still not all its cracked up to be yet.

 

[Kenpachii]

Idk much about how this is called nagging, but the act of posting footages of unreleased games emulated pretty much proves how whack those stances some of you have been preaching from the emulation high grounds.

It's not even an argument about Nintendo itself, it's about being proud and obnoxious that Nintendo games have been successfully pirated, yeay no need to buy anything except ya'll won't ever buy it anyway.

Nintendo doesn't release games on PC. PC gamers have no moral obligation to support Nintendo that doesn't support them.

Some people support nintendo non the less. some don't even consider nintendo games being worth anything.

Anyway if the cemu team is smart they start moving over to switch emulation entirely to stay relevant. the moment breath of the wild 2 comes out wii-u emulation is probably going to be deserted.

 

[MagnesG]

Now
> Don't care anymore, new unreleased game is here
> Let me pirate the fuck all I want, why do you get concerned so much

Next week
> We need emulators for preservation!

Ahh fucking hypocrites doing their mental gymnastics. It's all shit talk at the end.

 

[Kenpachii]

Now
> Don't care anymore, new unreleased game is here
> Let me pirate the fuck all I want, why do you get concerned so much

Next week
> We need emulators for preservation!

Ahh fucking hypocrites doing their mental gymnastics. It's all shit talk at the end.

Do you emulate yourself or are you just here to shit post with retard logic?

 

[MagnesG]

Nintendo doesn't release games on PC. PC gamers have no moral obligation to support Nintendo that doesn't support them.

Some people support nintendo non the less. some don't even consider nintendo games being worth anything.

Anyway if the cemu team is smart they start moving over to switch emulation entirely to stay relevant. the moment breath of the wild 2 comes out wii-u emulation is probably going to be deserted.

^^Raw example of retard pcmr logic doing its brain work.

 

[AutumnLeaves]

Now
> Don't care anymore, new unreleased game is here
> Let me pirate the fuck all I want, why do you get concerned so much

Next week
> We need emulators for preservation!

Ahh fucking hypocrites doing their mental gymnastics. It's all shit talk at the end.

Errrr...what? I think you're doing mental gymnastics here. You're not making any sense here.

 

[MagnesG]

Errrr...what? I think you're doing mental gymnastics here. You're not making any sense here.

Ignorant much about what the residents here have been preaching?

This thread should have been renamed "Switch emulator yuzu and game piracy progress" by now. It seems pretty much everyone here advocates day and date piracy due to their pcmr mentals.

Even GAF ToS is ignored, Bowser's Fury emulation before release date (pirated copy) being thrown around like usual:

Linking to pirate download sites, directions on how to get pirated software to work, reviews or impressions of pirated software, and livestreams of pirated software play are all strictly prohibited

 

[Bernd Lauert]

Ya'll are just a bunch of filthy pirates, the game doesn't come out yet so where does you guys get a copy? From the internet lol.

This is how people never take on the "preservation" or performance narrative seriously. I bet almost 90% of these pc whores won't even bought games ever, just pirating everything. Free gaems amirite?

If you're not then good for you. What's obvious here is pretty obvious though.

I'm a huge Nintendo fan but I won't shed any tears. They released a bundle of lazy ROMs of 20 year old games at full price and they are selling millions and millions of copies. Nintendo will be fine.

 

[Virt McPolygon]

Ignorant much about what the residents here have been preaching?

This thread should have been renamed "Switch emulator yuzu and game piracy progress" by now. It seems pretty much everyone here advocates day and date piracy due to their pcmr mentals.

Even GAF ToS is ignored, Bowser's Fury emulation before release date (pirated copy) being thrown around like usual:

How much is this keeping you up at night? You seem a bit obsessed.

 

[Senua]

Ya'll are just a bunch of filthy pirates, the game doesn't come out yet so where does you guys get a copy? From the internet lol.

This is how people never take on the "preservation" or performance narrative seriously. I bet almost 90% of these pc whores won't even bought games ever, just pirating everything. Free gaems amirite?

If you're not then good for you. What's obvious here is pretty obvious though.

y u care tho

 

[Lionel Richie]

Do you emulate yourself or are you just here to shit post with retard logic?

How the fuck is that retard logic? Emulation is supposed to be about games preservation, not about playing a new game for free before IT'S EVEN FUCKING OUT.

 

[Senua]

How the fuck is that retard logic? Emulation is supposed to be about games preservation, not about playing a new game for free before IT'S EVEN FUCKING OUT.

 

[Lionel Richie]

nOt AbOuT pIrAcY

 

[Senua]

nOt AbOuT pIrAcY

nintendo are sending you a free amiibo in the post! thank you for your service samurai