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Switch will not have an Internet browser (at least at launch)
- Thread starter KingSnake
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What a stupid statement. Please, tell us more about all of your insight from a stage demo.
I never said anything about better.
That's why I believe the launch is clearly targeted at enthusiasts who are willing to spend 400 on Zelda and the rest will have to follow in the following months and years. Get Mario out there for Christmas, bundle it with a console, have Netflix and YouTube ready. That will help.
calc84maniac
Member
I mean, I get what he's saying about development effort. It's no coincidence that it's coming out before, say, Xenoblade 2. I just don't know where he's going with that. And developers reuse engines all the time, but new content doesn't just come out of nowhere.
Affeinvasion
Member
No goalposts were moved. I think Splatoon 2 is clearly using recycled assets and engine from the first game. And I was straight up wrong about ARMS because I thought it was a mid-priced game.
Fair enough. I just haven't seen enough of Splatoon 2 to know if it has enough new content to be a true sequel. It felt like a marketing name as opposed to the Mario Kart Deluxe which is being marketed differently. I hope I'm wrong because Splatoon was my favorite game on Wii U.
Mr. Badger
Member
Can I just add that in the context of the whole of that quote, they talk only of being the constant device in your gaming life
Then he continues after your quote to clearly define that vision of being a gaming device
They can't compete, they tried and failed - so why not just concentrate on what they do best? And why shouldn't they just do that for now? Did I buy a 3DS for gaming or for netflix and browser apps?
As a consumer - if I buy a device and expect it to do something that at no time the seller told me it can do it, then I have failed.
If a device offers enough of a proposition to make me want me to buy it for the service it is being sold to deliver, then the seller has delivered.
This generation alone (I'm 36 now)
I've paid £250+ to play Xbox One games
I've paid £300+ to play PS4 games
I also paid £250+ (WiiU) and £180+ (3DS) to play Nintendo games
I'm now going to be paying £280 to pay Nintendo games both at home and on the go.
So has the value proposition with the switch actually gotten better already as a Nintendo gamer?
Stevey
Member
What more is there to say? It looks like a budget title.
If you think it's worth $60, that's fine.
Not contributing is shitposting
Possumowner
Member
Not a disaster but would of liked one on it,guess it'll arrive at some point
just like every fucking sequel ever!
The switch is a gaming device. I wouldn't pull out my 3DS to browse the internet.
I personally wouldn't pull out a tablet just to browse the internet, in any case, anyway. Phones have big enough screens now that I don't need it. I find it too cumbersome. Even in the situations people are mentioning like checking strategy guide while playing or something, that just sounds like an overly clunky use case to build software for when other things you'll already be carrying will handle that task so much better and wouldn't require you to close the game to use.
Splatoon 2 hews very close to the original. I would be surprised if people could tell screenshots apart if there wasn't something really obvious like a new weapon front and centre.
And many will just use those to play games too, and not get a switch.
So I guess you believe demos are the full extent of all games? That's the only way it makes sense that you and others would laugh at the idea of it being a full priced game. You have to think and believe the demo is all there is to it and as a result you have to be think that about all games that get demonstrated at events.Wait, arms is $60?
The switch would make a great tablet for someone like me who does not own one.
With tablet features + gaming it'd be a no brainer to get the Switch when I'll every buy a tablet.
BlastProcessing
Member
I agree with this, but I bet 1, 2 Switch is the bundled game instead of Mario. Maybe Mario Kart. No way they don't maximize Mario sales.
i HeaR MusiC
Member
What's budget about it? Do you consider Street Fighter a budget game?
godhandiscen
There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
The Xbox One browser sucks ass. I would rather see those resources used somewhere else.
Good call by Nintendo.
Good call by Nintendo.
What is a meaningless attempt to impart value onto a partial picture for 500$, Alex.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1341258
More to say would be, you know, actually giving justification for your value judgment. Because "it looks like" is not something that imbues confidence in the merit of an opinion and is more the hallmark of a thrown together justification to suit ones own cognitive dissonance.
To me, "it looks like" your post was vacuous of any actually worth. Just hot air caught in the breeze, and forgotten just as quickly.
SanSebastian
Banned
He's freakin right though. This is a port-machine. Mario Kart Deluxe. Splatoon 2 (aka. Deluxe)
Man,....
It's hard to believe that people really praise Bomberman as a big thing in 2017. I guess you all are just tryin to mess with my head.
This console has 3 games:
- Zelda
- Mario
- Xenoblade 2
Then 2 great ports:
- Mario Kart
- Splatoon
And then a lot of overpriced demos and indies and freakin old games
- ARMS
- 1-2-50 freakin
- Bomberman lol
- Tetris lol
People could tell Splatoon 2 was a sequel based on just the reveal trailer.
Watch some of the reactions. They immediately point out new locations, characters, clothing options, weapons, etc just from the brief glimpses in October. January was just confirmation of that.
The Switch is a tablet and could navigate the www as easy as your phone.
man, fuck this shit
isaacnukem
Member
Nintendo determined not to have the Switched hacked at launch
I think it's an awful decision to not have 1 2 Switch pre-installed on that thing. Maybe there will be a demo. Otherwise I have no idea how Nintendo plans on convincing people to buy that game for 50. Unless they're banking on people buying it since it's the only Nintendo game next to Zelda. Which is a terrible strategy imo.
Now this is shitposting, and rather stupid to boot.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Awful post is awful.Wait, arms is $60?
_/¯I'm surprised with this kind of logic that people aren't trying to call Xenoblade 2 a port as well.
Here is the thing: DS and Game Boy was a very prolific piece of mobile hardware, but I don't see iPhones with d-pads, do you? Because they aren't standard features for mobile phones. You can't group "mobile hardware" together and make broad associations like that about what a device is mandatory to include. If you do, then smartphones would never have become what they are, given that a keypad was a "standard feature" for "mobile hardware" and even "multi-function mobile phones" more specifically at the time of their release.
Hardware makers make decisions about what their devices will and will not include all the time within their very specific market category.
So you're going to leave your phone at home when you take your Switch out of the house? That doesn't seem very practical.
We live in a multi-device world now. It's a thing.
So first, it's not basically a tablet, any more than my Apple TV is basically a game console.
People generally associate their phones with mobile browsing. They know the interface, they're comfortable using it. It's the "go-to" device for that function. Also, it can browse the internet in more places, because the Switch doesn't have a SIM option. It's overall the better browser option, by leaps and bounds, and that means that the vast majority of people will continue reaching for their mobile device, since they won't be inclined to wait until they have a Wi-Fi connection before they go to browse.
Well damn, I should throw out my set top box and smartwatch, since they don't have a browser. What trash. Again, devices are made with certain end goals in mind and this idea that devices made in 2017 mandate certain features, regardless of their actual practical or likely utility, is baseless.
And you're entitled to be disappointed. But let's not make things into more than that and trying to establish that your disappointment is more than that.
See, I agree with the premise here, but at the end of the day, if something like a browser barely ever gets used, then it's a value-add provided solely to fulfill its purpose as a bulletpoint. If practically no one uses it, all they are missing is a bulletpoint, and that's purely perception. And while I understand perception plays a factor in buying decisions, we are in a very different world now. "It also has a browser" has become as much of a banal addition, it's the equivalent of the hackney trope of a kitchen device that "slices, dices and makes julienne fries" in the 80s and 90s.
Affeinvasion
Member
You could equally say that earning a consumer's positive first impression is the entire point of a demo and if said consumer doesn't see how the concept shown in said demo could provide enough entertainment for 60 dollars, then that is a problem of messaging and not with the consumer's impression.
Stevey
Member
From what I've seen and read, including the post you linked, it doesn't seem worth $60 to me.
It's OK that you don't agree.
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
Be honest, who uses internet browsers on their console?
DeuceGamer
Member
It's a shame, but not a deal breaker for me. Hope it's as good as Wii U browse when we get it. Hopefully by the holidays.
You forgot Fire Emblem Warriors, and Splatoon 2 isn't a port.
Jubenhimer
Member
No browser at launch doesn't imply no browser ever. Keep in mind, the 3DS didn't have a web browser, or Video apps, or even the eShop at launch either. These are things that can be added via either a system update, or the eShop. Right now, Nintendo want's this thing to be purely games focus, all the extras will come later.
Like, the original had new locations, clothing and weapons released throughout its lifecycle, so I don't know what point you're trying to make. The cat has a baby now though, I will give you that.
Seriously I've played the game, it's about as much of a sequel as Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is.
Nose Master
Member
I bet it doesn't have a rotary phone, either.
Switch has some real problems, but this isn't one of them.
Switch has some real problems, but this isn't one of them.
just being curious, do you think overwatch is worth 60 dollars?
Discokuningas
Member
Oh my god 
This thread really shows the stupidity of the human kind. I just can't..
This thread really shows the stupidity of the human kind. I just can't..Huh? Why not? It's a fighting game by the studio that made MK8. It's probably going to have a lot more content.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
You played a DEMO.
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