Times have changed. Parents know there are thousands of free games on the devices they already own and know. Kids know there are thousands of free games on the devices they already know. What you're describing is a parent that is willing to pay 400 at launch for a tablet-like device that doesn't offer any tablet functionality and that also asks for 60 per game. That's A LOT. You're overestimating people's interest in high quality games in that segment greatly.
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Switch will not have an Internet browser (at least at launch)
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Sure, but when the library grows of MP games and no way to use them outside your house...
This could be a great play MH in public with others but no, you can't.
Damage control?
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Ha! Someone still thinks mobile doesn't have any games.
Well, we still know practically nothing about the system and OS. Maybe they found a workaround that would enable the Switch to connect to hotspots.
Oppo
Member
yeah it could be. i hope it is.
Vita pops a selector dialog for the actual access point, but i think you need to try and navigate to a page in the browser before it re directs you to login. this caught me a few times when i tried to do a non-web-thing first (mail, netflix etc)
Dark Cloud
Member
Other companies don't get near the criticism and hypocrisy like Nintendo does. Don't even bring that in here. Why don't you wait and see how the online works? None of us work at Nintendo to have all the answers.
You know that you don't have to enter in every thread, don't you? If it's a subject that has no importance to you, you can just ignore it and focus on the subjects that matter to you.
Imp the Dimp
Member
I'm Switch sceptic, but I can't think of a single situation where I'd use a console browser, nor have I ever done it. Sounds completely pointless when it's easier to check your phone but who knows. I think the console got many problems aside from that.
And they can use those other devices to play games on. Why buy a switch? They can even play nintendo games on their phone.
it does seem silly though, the system being a tablet-like device but lacking basic tablet features isn't great regardless on how often you used them.
It does make me think that maybe they should have delayed the launch until later in the year when the line up was better and the features were ready.
It does make me think that maybe they should have delayed the launch until later in the year when the line up was better and the features were ready.
The next line of questions would have been, does it have a Mario game, not Netflix. If the mom wanted Netflix in the backseat she can just buy a tablet.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Other companies don't live in a bubble. They're aware of what other devices consumers are using and don't use them as a crutch for theirs.
I never said that, plz stop making shit up.
I currently have 8 games installed on my phone. I am aware that there are a million mobile games out there but I also think the great majority of them are of inferior quality and do not appeal to me.
Milly Osworth
Member
CentralScrutinizer
Member
Someone needs to make a "Nintendo just shot themselves in the foot. I'm not sure if you know anything about Japanese culture, I'm an expert, but....." parody thread about this.
snoopeasystreet
Member
Lol Nintendo but odds are if I'm using a Switch, I'll be less than 5 seconds away from a web browser anyway so it's not like it's a big deal.
I'd assume this is more to stop potential vulnerabilities than anything else.
I'd assume this is more to stop potential vulnerabilities than anything else.
TheMagician
Member
I have checked thanks. There are people in the thread complaining about the lack of browser at launch and the same people have said in other threads previously they have no interest in Switch.
I just find that rather strange.
I have no interest in Xbox One, so I wouldn't go into an Xbox thread and start complaining about the Xbox missing a feature. You know why? Because that would be weird as hell.
So you go into a topic about a non existent web browser?
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Yes, the tablet has both Netflix and Mario.
If it was a only stationary console, it wouldn't be nearly the same issue.
It's not however.
M: Oh great, can they play together?
Nothing wrong with a tablet, if a mom wants to give the kids Netflix and (as per original quote) Facebook, then why is she buying a games console?
It's the second time you say this. Can you point out who those people are?
TheMagician
Member
Awful awful argument.
Switch isn't a 3G or 4G device like a phone is. It's primary a games console and it's main purpose is not phone calls, text messages or web browsing.
Good luck playing Breath of the Wild on an iphone by the way.
I am not. If you had read my posts you've seen that I don't expect parents to buy Switches at launch. The value proposition is not good on day one unless you are really into Zelda.
Oppo
Member
it's not just "a feature". it's the ability to do anything on the internet, besides play a game. it's a big deal.
i do in fact think that they will add a browser later because it's so fucking insane to not have one. like the thing is supposed to have Share functions, is that all in a walled garden too?
also PS i don't believe you actually cross correlated all those users but w/e
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
can you watch netflix on a ps4? or an xbox one? or 3ds? can you get on facebook on those devices?
KingSnake, maybe you'd know. What happens with a 3DS when it comes to wifi hotspot authentication when using public wifi?
Sony and Microsoft don't get the benefit of the doubt that Nintendo does. Their plans get picked apart and scrutinized as soon as they're announced. No one ever waits until the latest PlayStation or Xbox actually comes out to see how things go. Nintendo has always has the easiest time of the big three here.
Nintendo just shot themselves in the foot.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about Japanese culture (I'm an expert), but web browsing and online are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in America where you can become successful by having timed exclusives. If you don't let someone browse in Japan, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.
What this means is the japanese public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase Switch, nor will they purchase any of Nintendo's games. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Nintendo has alienated an entire market with this move.
Nintendo, publicly apologize and cancel Switch for 360 or you can kiss your business goodbye.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about Japanese culture (I'm an expert), but web browsing and online are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in America where you can become successful by having timed exclusives. If you don't let someone browse in Japan, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.
What this means is the japanese public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase Switch, nor will they purchase any of Nintendo's games. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Nintendo has alienated an entire market with this move.
Nintendo, publicly apologize and cancel Switch for 360 or you can kiss your business goodbye.
CentralScrutinizer
Member
What the heck am I reading
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I have been on GAF for like a decade now. Your statement is completely false.
I mean, come on. All it takes is a simple search of threads from the last few months.
Yes, that would be absolutely disastrous. No disagreement there.
However, the fact that a browser is not included at launch does not exclude the possibility that it comes later and if it indeed never comes, we still don't know much about the Switch's online infrastructure. Maybe Nintendo devised a workaround to this problem.
CentralScrutinizer
Member
Yea a small icon of a web browser is such a bloat :|
Some Nintendo fans could literally justify ANYTHING.
TheMagician
Member
I'm not being funny, monegames, but your ENTIRE posting history for the last 30 days is going into Nintendo threads and making negative comments.
Brilliant! haha
Edit - Your history confirms you're not getting a Switch at launch anyway so no need to be upset. I'm sure a browser will be a feature when you get one years down the line like your plans for Wii U.
Interfectum
Gold Member
This is hilarious.
Please stop trying to be clever and read properly.
Sure, some kids don't mind having only mobile games to play but I know that if I, as a kid, ask my parents for a VIDEOGAME SYSTEM and got a 'tablet the third of the price of a Switch' I would be extremely disillusioned.
Never said breath of the wild. More people are playing nintendo games on their phones than will probably ever buy a switch.
CentralScrutinizer
Member
Didn't you know that suddenly no one has mobile phones? Before Nintendo went mobile everyone had them, but now Nintendo is removing features that phones so easily, people are incredibly ticked off at Nintendo because suddenly they don't have a good net browsing option.
Oppo
Member
i honestly have never seen so many people justify a lack of features on a device, by pointing out that other, more capable devices have said features.
every time someone Switches Away from a Switch to do something, because it can't handle a simple thing like a web page or Youtube, it's an invitation to stop using the device.
for my part i've been un-sold hard on Switch. i'll wait a year and see if it grows up or just ends up another smoking crater. it's a drag. i like the hardware.
Sorry, I have only a Wii U, not a 3ds, so I don't know.
Edit: there is this post about it:
But I don't know what exactly that means.
You need to open the browser and enter the URL of the authentication page. And then you better hope that network has a system in place which automatically redirects you to to the authentication page, otherwise you need to enter the URL by hand. At least that's what I had to do when I tried.
That I think goes without saying. That's every console launch, ever. Value can only go up, prices can only go down.
TheMagician
Member
No one is justifying it. People who are excited for Switch and Zelda just aren't that bothered about a web browser being available day 1 or not.
I'm sure the Switch can 'handle' youtube tbf.
Yeah, I don't get it either.
I'm getting the Switch on day one and this 'no browser' issue doesn't really bother me at all but let's not kid ourselves and act as this is a plus. The less devices you have to use to achieve the same functionality the better.
I'm not being funny, monegames, but your ENTIRE posting history for the last 30 days is going into Nintendo threads and making negative comments.
Brilliant! haha
Edit - Your history confirms you're not getting a Switch at launch anyway so no need to be upset. I'm sure a browser will be a feature when you get one years down the line like your plans for Wii U.
Because I wanted to get a nintendo console. If you read my posting history you would have known that. Nintendo showed they don't want my business, I am posting my opinion on these issues, because I can and I am disapointed in the state of the device at launch. I had planed on getting a switch at launch, but the switch reveal and price of accessories stopped that.
It's a matter of convenience, especially if you're on the way. It's won't be necessarily pleasant to constantly juggle with the Switch and your phone.
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