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He basically did, in the opening of Inglourious Basterds -- sounds very similar, at any rate.
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Tarantino and Spaghetti Western tracks.....
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Extra Sauce
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Interesting timing. I finally watched Lady Snowblood over the weekend and it got me wondering if Tarantino's recycling of classic themes could dilute their effectiveness over time.
I think it's a fair question as I have seen it happen with public domain pieces of music in the past but I think ultimately that won't be the case with Tarantino because his movies tend to be as memorable as the ones he lifts from.
I think it's a fair question as I have seen it happen with public domain pieces of music in the past but I think ultimately that won't be the case with Tarantino because his movies tend to be as memorable as the ones he lifts from.
I'm not too versed in producer music, but i assume the point is to remix it and give it a new identity.
Not just have an album with a straight up 1:1 copy of another song.
I don't have a problem with remixing a song, the same way i don't have a problem with remaking a movie.
Ripping away a movie's original composition, and slapping it on another one, just feels deeply wrong to me, unless that's exactly the point being made, but that's rarely the case.
I mean when i watch Kickass and the Sunshine's music start playing, immediately the movie is losing its identity (both Sunshine and Kickass) and the soundtrack isn't a score anymore, but something detached from the visuals.
I don't think a music score is just something you can swap and interchange around willy nilly, i think it's as integral as dialog or visuals to a movie's soul, and as i said, nobody would be ok with 1:1 lifted footage (or specific dialog) from another movie, unless it's in itself a statement.
I'd say all of Tarrantino's films are the very definition of respectful homage and the closest he's come to "ripping off" a genre is Jackie Brown or the grind house flick.
They have never been carbon copies and contain little to no irony as it relates to the inspirations.
paperboywriter
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Today I learned the lyrics in that song are actually in English.
I love how Tarantino does it and it always fits imo.
Just a personal tastes thing though, I can see why it would bug some people. It's literally ripping music straight out of other films.
Came out two years ago and has the full 251-minute extended director's cut with all the scenes that the studio took out added back in. It's a classic imo, definitely worth watching if you're a Leone fan.
Just a personal tastes thing though, I can see why it would bug some people. It's literally ripping music straight out of other films.
Get this blu-ray https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KSOOSZ6/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Came out two years ago and has the full 251-minute extended director's cut with all the scenes that the studio took out added back in. It's a classic imo, definitely worth watching if you're a Leone fan.
TheCthultist
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Don't think I've ever seen a thread so universally (and civilly) disagree with the OP before.
Tarantino's movies are all extremely dependent on the music used in them. And, at least in my experience, the spaghetti western tracks used are almost always some of the best in the movies. Never thought of any of them as feeling out of place in the slightest.
Tarantino's movies are all extremely dependent on the music used in them. And, at least in my experience, the spaghetti western tracks used are almost always some of the best in the movies. Never thought of any of them as feeling out of place in the slightest.
When it came out in the US it was only 139 minutes and the cuts make it a much weaker film imo.
I would highly recommend against the new extended 251 minute version for a first time viewer. If it is not the worst looking movie I've ever seen, it is close to it. The trims must have been in awful condition and they made the entire movie into an eyesore to compensate.
The original 229 minute European Cut is what Leone released in his lifetime and is a classic for a reason. I would love to see the six hour version he originally envisioned, but it will never exist. The European Cut looks great on Blu-ray, though I would love to see a version with less DNR.
The American 139 minute cut is a joke and nobody should ever have to see it again. That's the one to avoid. It's never been released on DVD or Blu-ray.
I can only hope there is a way to restore the extended version into something watchable in the future. I don't know how they made it look so bad. Maybe check it out if you come to love the movie and have seen it a few times.
Thanks for the insight! Almost 100 minutes cut from one released version to the next, that has to be some kind of record...
Fancyarcher
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I have little issue with Tarantino using old tracks in his films. If anything it just gives more attention to that particular music, sometimes it can me annoy yes. One of my favorite Tarantino's soundtrack is Inglourious Basterds, just for the various use of music in the film itself, some of which isn't even on the actual soundtrack. Using everything from Morricone, to Schifrin's Kelly Heroes, to Bernstein's Zulu Dawn was a stroke of genius.
It's very common. In fact that's basically what temp-tracking is for in some ways. In fact you call to 2001, but Kubrick was all about using classical music in his films because it was much easier to control and put in the film. Some filmmakers like that.
It's very common. In fact that's basically what temp-tracking is for in some ways. In fact you call to 2001, but Kubrick was all about using classical music in his films because it was much easier to control and put in the film. Some filmmakers like that.
Temp tracking isn't supposed to be final, it's a necessary evil, and many composers hate it, since some films are edited/thought out around temp tracks.
And Kubrick used (in those cases) non-original compositions, they weren't written with a specific movie in mind.
They may end up being strongly associated with a movie (like Ride of the Valkyrie with Apocalypse Now, Blu Danube/Zarathustra with 2001, etc) but they weren't written for them.
Man with Knife
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Fun fact: the guy who cut and ruined the movie for american audiences back in '84 was the assistant editor of the first Police Academy film at the time, Zach Staenberg. Fifteen years later he would win the Academy Award for the editing of The Matrix.
ComputerBlue
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Say what what you will about the man or his movies but his soundtracks are always on point. Everything seems really perfectly placed. I love his movies, the music plays a big role in why I do.
The only thing that bothered me about the music from Hateful 8 was that it took that fucking long for Morricone to win an Oscar and while it's good, he's done so much better and deserved one many years ago, if not several of them. Once Upon a Time in America is one of the greatest scores of all time.
The only thing that bothered me about the music from Hateful 8 was that it took that fucking long for Morricone to win an Oscar and while it's good, he's done so much better and deserved one many years ago, if not several of them. Once Upon a Time in America is one of the greatest scores of all time.