undrtakr900
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Jswanko said:
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Team Fortress 2 - A Heavy Update: Live!
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Nice catch. Looks like we're getting a mountain wilderness region.Alaskanbullworm said:
Upon reflection, Natascha sounds decent if only for the fun factor of messing with the enemy team. It'll make the Heavy even more of a defensive beast, if nothing else. Friendly spies and snipers are going to love this thing.
Azure Dream
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Alaskanbullworm said:So, I wonder if the background with the Heavy is the new environment?
It makes me think of the Companion Cube Soccer arena.
I think the new gun will cause more heavy vs. ________ face-offs instead of opponents running away. It implies that in the description. I'm not really sure what Valve was balancing there. Were they even balancing anything or were they just adding a new gun for the sake of adding a new gun?
This gun will be awesome when teamed up with the pyro or another heavy with a Sasha, or even a demoman. But we don't know the extent of slowdown. Oh yea, forgot about spies and snipers, lol.
Damage trade-off should be at least -35% though.
This gun will be awesome when teamed up with the pyro or another heavy with a Sasha, or even a demoman. But we don't know the extent of slowdown. Oh yea, forgot about spies and snipers, lol.
Damage trade-off should be at least -35% though.
Death_Born said:The new minigun looks like it'll be pretty unbalanced when shooting into a group of enemies. I wonder if it will also slow down ubers?
New weapons are underwhelming, except the K.G.B.
If the new environment is pictured, I'd imagine it would look something like this:
I wouldn't mind that :lol
As for a mic, I've bought two $15 Logitech USB mic refurbs from eBay. They are fantastic.
undrtakr900
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I just thought of something, when there's a cluster of enemies have the Heavy run out and spam Nastasha(slow) then have an Uber Pyro run out and clean houseYYZ said:
Doytch said:
Well, that also confirms the sandwich/lunchpail as well.
Overall, not as cool as the Pyro's alternate weapons, but more interesting than the Medic's.
undrtakr900
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I hope Heavy gets an assist point for every enemy that was killed while in slow-down.
After they got rid of the +50 health, there were loads of "Pyro sucks now" or "Backburner is Useless" threads
Valve =
Welcome to the interwebs where people bitch just bitch:lolVolcynika said:
After they got rid of the +50 health, there were loads of "Pyro sucks now" or "Backburner is Useless" threads
Valve =
Botolf said:
undrtakr900
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While Airblast is extremely useful don't count out the Backburner, its still effective. If you're Uber the enemy's instinct it to turn and run giving you an easy back-kill. Or I rush a group of enemies jumping/moving erratically sometimes I wind up behind them for the crits. Also effective when there's several enemies attacking/defending on top of a CP, I hug the wall and spam fire and watch the Crit indicator stack upZek said:
MrPing1000
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Zzoram said:
it's great for blocking uber rushes when the gates open in dustbowl/goldrush etc/ u can make them entirely useless.
undrtakr900
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PillowKnight
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Terrible, terrible update.
Suburban Cowboy
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So their solution for making heavy a more viable solo class is to give him a weapon that does less damage. Awesome
VictimOfGrief
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Go take your Boo Urns elsewhere. I think this will balance things out nicely.PillowKnight said:
PillowKnight
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:lolVictimOfGrief said:
What are you even saying? What does this balance?
Ah I get it.
Valve "OH hey so you, against tough odds, somehow manage to enjoy playing scout, well guess what, TOO BAD."
Suburban Cowboy
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makes him more open to enemy damage. Problem with playing heavy without a medic isnt the kills that get away, its all the shit shooting at you.krzyspc said:
Confidence Man
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Sounds like it'll be good for slowing down the pyro uber rushes, but not too much else.
This does sound like it'll hurt my enjoyment of scout. It's my second most played class (with less than half the time of pyro), and I like it as a change of pace. I'll wait to see how everything plays out first though, since there's a lot of numbers up in the air.
Doubt it'll affect ubers.
Confidence Man said:
Doubt it'll affect ubers.
VictimOfGrief
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PillowKnight said:
This balances the thousands of servers that are going to get raped on Tuesday with all of the noobs playing Heavy and going to make it easier for the other classes to actually stand a chance against the heavy.
The -25% nerf to the gun but 100% slow is going to be critical on maps like Dustbowl where one of the first points is to keep people from getting out and leave them hanging out for the damage dealers (Demo, Soldier and Pyro) to go in and have fun. On the flip side, you'll also get heavy's on the other side, slowing down the other people for the scouts or anyone else to out flank them or at least get a chance of killing them.
I'm finding it funny that people knee jerk when they read this and throw their arms up in the air and say the update is shit when they haven't even played it nor experienced the effect of what it will do. From the outside--- it's a modest update to the Heavy and will either make people kill them faster or avoid them. Either way, they're a tank and a defender which is exactly why Valve is bringing those aspects to the class.
PillowKnight
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Oh so that was a joke post, ok, you got me.VictimOfGrief said:
The update lacks creativity, and takes an implementation that will bring down my enjoyment of the game, regardless of how balance skewing the update is.
Demonracer999
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I know I'm LTTP but I'm downloading the patch now. Exciting. lol.
VictimOfGrief
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PillowKnight said:
Do you even play TF2?
And no that wasn't a joke post and you're one person out of thousands that play the game which makes my point all the more relevant with that sort of retort.
PillowKnight
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You got me, I don't even like this game, I'm just here for the pretty pictures.VictimOfGrief said:
So you actually responded to my post about balance, with a testament to the weapon's usefulness? Then ended it with "Well everyone else will be moving slower too!"
Dunno, maybe your post was just poorly worded.
VictimOfGrief
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Ahh the truth comes out.PillowKnight said:
Yeah, my words must have been confusing.
So less damage, no long range ability, and a weapon slot that makes you defenseless is a solution?Zek said:
Only things I could see making the weapons useful would be if the new minigun had less spin up, more accuracy, and faster walk speed, and if the sandwich has a pistol as its primary fire.
Hopefully the maps can make up for the awful weapons.
No long range ability? Are we talking about the same class?n0b said:
Natascha will absolutely be useful. First of all, if the snare is 50% as was leaked then it will be a significant improvement in killing ability with only a 25% damage penalty. Twice as much time to shoot someone before they escape at 75% damage = 150% damage compared to Sasha, in exchange for the vulnerability. On top of that such a significant slowdown will make them sitting ducks to the rest of your team, so it will actually be useful at mid range where you can hit people semi-regularly but the damage isn't much.
The shotgun is useful but not that big a deal to the Heavy. The point of the sandvich is to give him a way to recover the damage that he inevitably takes in every fight without needing a Medic, the details of which remain to be seen. The whole problem with his solo viability was that he always got hurt and had to run all the way back to a medpack.
KittenMaster
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Am I the only one that likes this update? It gives the Heavy a way to help teammates, by giving slower targets to hit, especially for those Soldiers and Demomen to feast on.