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Team Fortress 2 debunks myths about Xbox Live
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MrNyarlathotep
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Teknopathetic said:
I don't think FF is a problem with the lack of accuracy on defult weapons causing a bunch of team kills - it's more being able to rocket jump other classes into places where it would be impossible to dislodge them from.
If you think of something like the building with the capture point at B in Gravelpit, where demomen and soldiers can get above the capture point and be tough to take out, imagine how that would play with a rocketboosted engineer putting a teleporter up there and letting the whole team get up to defend...
Beer Monkey
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oo Kosma oo said:
You obviously don't read the right threads. This stuff has been spouted repeatedly, and not by me, so they aren't personal misconceptions.
m0nty said:
That's not true. Some run a player-hosted server, whoever creates the room is actually running the host. This requires an asymmetrical connection with substantially more upload than download and the upload requirements actually grow exponentially as each player is added.
Halo 2 and 3 take it a step further by automatically (and transparently) choosing this host based on whoever has the best upload speed in the room.
As far as the low numbers of players right now, you have to consider all of the single player greatness that also comes with Orange Box. It's quite possible that loads of people own the game, but are playing through the hours and hours of single player nirvana that is also included.
Team Fortress will be the longevity part of the title. Most people are probably burning through the story and portal right now.
If the lag though is as bad as is stated, I'll still end up getting TF2 on Steam for PC. Is it available alone yet or do you have to get it in the bundle?
I have no problem getting the single player stuff on the 360 (especially since I don't have to connect online to Steam just to play it), then get the online game on PC.
Team Fortress will be the longevity part of the title. Most people are probably burning through the story and portal right now.
If the lag though is as bad as is stated, I'll still end up getting TF2 on Steam for PC. Is it available alone yet or do you have to get it in the bundle?
I have no problem getting the single player stuff on the 360 (especially since I don't have to connect online to Steam just to play it), then get the online game on PC.
beermonkey@tehbias said:
My second multiplayer match in Halo 3, I was jumped by a 12 year old who decided to let me know:
1. My gamertag is faggy.
2. My uniform colors, faggy.
3. My playing ability, you guessed it, faggy.
He never stopped until the match was over. It was pretty awe inspiring to have someone be so dedicated to letting me have it for no reason.
And who says games aren't art.
squatingyeti
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dfyb said:
I can't imagine why YOU would have heard anything else. Maybe you should go play the PS3 vers......
BenjaminBirdie
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Tobor said:
How do you let these guys get past the lobby screen without muting them? I haven't had a crappy experience yet. The voice of any douche never makes it past the first shot fired.
As for Team Fortress, the community so far seems pretty darn good. Unfortunately the game seems a little too spastic for my tastes. Love the style, but it's just hyper-fast. I'll probably pick it up again and try a support role instead. I was doing the best yesterday playing the noob-friendly spy.
Yeah, it's good. I've only had to mute three or four people for being intentionally annoying (and only maybe one or two for being legitimate assholes).
Most of the people I mute are because of annoying background noise (music, dysfunctional family), because even though they talk they're incomprehensible, or because they're mouth-breathers and I don't want to listen to them wheeze their way through a whole round.
Johnkers said:
Yeah, it's good. I've only had to mute three or four people for being intentionally annoying (and only maybe one or two for being legitimate assholes).
Most of the people I mute are because of annoying background noise (music, dysfunctional family), because even though they talk they're incomprehensible, or because they're mouth-breathers and I don't want to listen to them wheeze their way through a whole round.
sixthsubset
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Johnkers said:
you can also set voice to only your team or party AND you can't hear the other team in team games, downplaying the trash talking. that combined with insta-muting makes it pretty much a nonissue.
my theory is that alot of people who complain about xbl don't look back at themselves and see that they do the same thing everyone else does. you know who you are
Beer Monkey
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FabCam said:
Third-party PS3 games aren't coded any differently for networking than third-party 360 games.
GenericPseudonym
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FabCam said:
How about you press X in matchmaking and select "prefer good connection"
FrenchMovieTheme
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i posted this in the official thread but ill post it here too. just played my first game on Live with 12 players and there was no lag. awesome game.... and i haven't even played half life 2 y et!
coldvein said:
It is actually pretty severe more oft than not... Which is a shame, because it's so much fun to disguise yourself as a heavy, have their medic heal you while watching you walk behind another of their teammates and knife them in the back :lol... It's the freeze you on the spot or teleport you around kinda... Not the stop and go either, which is even worse... Or, the host disconnects
I have severe worries for CoD4 as well... I know they said they did drastic changes to the code from the beta, I really hope so... I'd be very very upset if that game doesn't run well... I may consider picking up the PS3 version if I hear it runs better... It's a kick-ass game that deserves it...
Beer Monkey
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bishoptl said:
Are you saying that a certain upcoming shooter is using a different network gameplay model on the PS3 than the 360?
I don't suppose you could tell us anything...
Timan
Developer
Yea, this is as laggy as Saints Row if anyone has played that.
But when you do get a host who knows they can host a 16 player game... its PURE BLISS. This games multiplayer is way more fun than halo's. You can go in, have a team that actually does crap and not fuck around.
I bought it on steam too, but my darn iMac isn't letting me play it, keeps locking up my machine so hopefully that gets fixed soon. 16 players really shows when you play on the 24 or modded 32 player servers on pc.
But when you do get a host who knows they can host a 16 player game... its PURE BLISS. This games multiplayer is way more fun than halo's. You can go in, have a team that actually does crap and not fuck around.
I bought it on steam too, but my darn iMac isn't letting me play it, keeps locking up my machine so hopefully that gets fixed soon. 16 players really shows when you play on the 24 or modded 32 player servers on pc.
freethought
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Juice said:
Can someone tell me if this is more widespread than the endless MGS (and to a lesser extent FFVII) PSN ID's.
squatingyeti
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chubigans said:
The PS3 only uses dedicated servers if the dev/publisher feels like paying for them. You'd be surprised how many games on PS3 are using P2P.
Lion Heart
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Myth: PGR4, being the amazing game it is, has lots of people on live.
Fact: WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU ASSHOLES, THERE IS LIKE 4 GAMES
Fact: WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU ASSHOLES, THERE IS LIKE 4 GAMES
Beer Monkey
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chubigans said:
XBL has 'peer to peer', player hosted (requires host to have high upload bandwidth), and dedicated publisher-hosted servers, though the only example I know of the latter is Battlefield 2.
Sony has the same, but they do have more dedicated publisher-hosted servers (see Sony-published titles i.e. Resistance, Motorstorm, Warhawk for examples).
If you are curious about any specific title and how it networks, use a good router and an app like WallWatcher or Link Logger, it isn't that hard to figure out which gaming network model a title is using.
Illuminati
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Fact: I want to play Marvel Ultimate Alliance more, but only one person will join me in an hour's time of waiting.Lion Heart said:
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