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That's all fine, but there are some major disadvantages to CRT:
1. You have to get help to move it because it's heavy and bulky.
2. Geometry is inaccurate.
3. Power consumption is high.
4. Generates lots of heat.

Contrast ratio is better, but it isn't 2004. The difference isn't nearly as big as it used to be. And whatever that sparkling glare on LCD panels is gone too.

As for the guy getting $50 monitors and calling CRTs more affordable, I think that's because they were on clearance because they are a dying tech. If there was still a market they wouldn't be $50. You can get affordable LCDs when the market moves to OLED or whatever replaces current stuff.

So? Who cares why they were cheap? The fact is, they're cheap, and a competing high fidelity technology would have to deal with the fact that I can simply purchase a CRT for $50. With the exception of Sony FWs, CRTs are almost universally ridiculously cheap.

1. My CRT monitors are almost as large as they get; they weigh 75 pounds. I am a very skinny guy and I can lift them. Your argument is certainly apt for any television over 26 inches or so.
2. The geometry is only inaccurate if the monitor is poorly-calibrated or damaged. Even a damaged monitor can usually be adjusted to correct geometry. Only one of my CRTs has any sort of problem with geometry, and it's a minor one.
3. The difference between a CRT and a backlit LCD is not as large as you think.
4. Huh? No they don't. Yes, the back panel itself gets heated up but not even close to enough to heat up anything else around it.

 

[Alien Bob]

vinyl records and tubes suck for sound quality. If you want real crisp, clear sound that doesn't sound too clean and vibrates in a way which can not be put into words or numbers and therefore can't be put down by your stupid arguments, you need to get with wax cylinders and big metal horns.

 

[AbsoluteZero]

ITT people defend old technology

In a lot of cases is a "If it ain't broke don't fix it" situation.

 

[Buttchin]

How about this:

medicine field uses them alot. i hate them with a passion

They are getting pretty elaborate now so that you can write like 256 character messages so depending on the reason for the page the person doesn't even have to call back they can just do what is asked directly through the page..

Though these are getting to be on the way out as some doctors are forwarding the pages to their own phone or getting a dedicated phone that the "on call person" passes on to the next person.

 

[Shin Johnpv]

Fine then, what about CRT televisions?

Still used in digital content creation fields. At a lot of the places I've freelanced the lighters always had calibrated CRTs.

That's usually what happens though, people thought Beta Max was dead and it was still being used by Broadcast studios well in the 90s and early 2000s.

 

[Clemsontigers35]

Decaffination which uses Benzene or CCl4

for washing clothes

What's the status of Saccharin? I know it's been largely replaced by stuff like stevia and sucralose, but I thought it was coming back as its no longer considered a carcinogen.

 

[Lonely1]

I want to manufacture my own RAM.

 

[Seraphinianus]

vinyl record

*ambush*

vinyl records and tubes suck for sound quality. If you want real crisp, clear sound that doesn't sound too clean and vibrates in a way which can not be put into words or numbers and therefore can't be put down by your stupid arguments, you need to get with wax cylinders and big metal horns.

I don't want real crisp, clear sound...but then i kinda lost track of where you were going after that.

anyway, vinyl is much more than raw sound quality. sure, the sound could be reproduced digitally, but I got off MP3s and CDs for a lot of different reasons.

 

[Buttchin]

I want to manufacture my own RAM.

for my ignorant ass... what am i looking at exactly..

 

[Shin Johnpv]

Stop-motion animation.
Hand drawn cartoons.

WHAT? First of all these are types of art not technologies. If you want to play that angle though, they said Photography was going to kill painting, and yet over 100 years later painting is still here. Just as Stop Motion, and hand drawn animation will be for years to come.

 

[Seraphinianus]

WHAT? First of all these are types of art not technologies. If you want to play that angle though, they said Photography was going to kill painting, and yet over 100 years later painting is still here. Just as Stop Motion, and hand drawn animation will be for years to come.

the question is: will hand drawn animation ever top 3rd Strike? I don't think so.

 

[Lonely1]

for my ignorant ass... what am i looking at exactly..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic-core_memory

 

[chronos4590]

How are you guys going to play your old UMD's in your new Playstation Vita? Oh Wait.

 

[Buttchin]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic-core_memory

thank you

 

[ReBurn]

Single-stick games consoles/controllers.

The legend will never die.

 

[Biggzy]

Still amazes me that floppy disks are still alive.

 

[ReBurn]

How are you guys going to play your old UMD's in your new Playstation Vita? Oh Wait.

The same way people who buy new PS3's play their PS2 games. On the console they were made for.

Besides, this thread isn't about tech that never should have been used in the first place.

 

[Seraphinianus]

Besides, this thread isn't about tech that never should have been used in the first place.

was there ever a plan to build UMDs beyond PSP? because that would be pretty hilarious and classic kutaragi (if he was the brains behind it)

 

[AwakenedCloud]

CD, DVD, HD-DVD.

Really, so I guess the Xbox 360 is dead too then?!

 

[StudioTan]

TSeriously, if the best and only argument one can have when discussing LCD vs CRT is 'it doesn't weight 50 pounds' - guess what neither does a 21" crt but keep hyperboling- , then why do people refuse to recognise that they fell for a marketing scam.

LOL, 21" whole inches?? Where do I sign up?

I don't miss bulky ass CRTs one bit. I don't miss the huge gap I had to have behind my desk in order to accommodate the back of the monitor. I don't miss the 4:3 aspect ratio. I don't miss the heat and power consumption. I don't miss the lovely green hue I used to get in the corners from the magnetic field generated by my speakers. Glad they're dead.

 

[Charmicarmicat]

vinyl records and tubes suck for sound quality. If you want real crisp, clear sound that doesn't sound too clean and vibrates in a way which can not be put into words or numbers and therefore can't be put down by your stupid arguments, you need to get with wax cylinders and big metal horns.

Cool, good to know you are as un-funny as the guy in your avatar.

 

[IpsoFacto]

Good riddance.

 

[Seraphinianus]

Good riddance.

my dad still has one. i guess doctors still use them for some odd reason. You'd think a text would be faster and easier.

 

[thefit]

Nope, still use them myself.

 

[MrCompletely]

my dad still has one. i guess doctors still use them for some odd reason. You'd think a text would be faster and easier.

I have a friend who's a doctor, he told me he's mandated by his practice to carry one because it's only a one way communication, the line CAN'T be tied up or ever busy and they hold a charge tons longer than a cell phone

 

[IpsoFacto]

Speaking of dead Digital video formats, do you guys still remember these?

This one in particular was Dead On Arrival.

 

[Kubricks Ghost]

35mm cinema projectors.

 

[Seraphinianus]

Speaking of dead Digital video formats, do you guys still remember these?

haha, forgot about these. I think I purchased a DVD player because it had VCD playing capability, which totally blew my mind at the time.

But I didn't know they were an official format-- I thought they were a pirate creation because they were better than an early-2000s highly compressed video file (i.e. utter shit), but smaller than a DVD file.

 

[kehs]

I this thread people show how clueless they are.

 

[IpsoFacto]

The VCD was pretty short lived, it had a big market in Asia for a while (my uncle had an actual Video-CD Player with the original Jurassic Park).

They were still around up until the very early 2000s and vanished completely when the Playstation 2 made DVD players more affordable.

 

[ShadyMilkman]

I had a pager when I was in 6th/7th grade, and I thought I was such a badass.

 

[FoxSpirit]

Analog Radio.

VERY much alive here. We haven't shifted to digital yet because national broadcast isn't in favour of the quality and waits for a quality successor to the current standard. Given a good receiver, radio hear delivers pretty kick ass analogue quality.

Also ITT anti-tube people who think that lowest measured noise is all there is to sound reproduction (no offense taken, I once went for technical perfection as well).

 

[Alien Bob]

Cool, good to know you are as un-funny as the guy in your avatar.

Oh man, I was waiting for an annoyed reaction to that post. Thanks so much.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

CRT will never die. When it comes to durability, reliability and feasibility, CRT is far better than LCD/LED/OLED from an engineering standpoint. Call me when LCD/LED/OLED matches it.

One simple example: LCD and co. are shit when it comes to regulating temperatures. A lot of risk factors are involved and thus it's not used in the engineering industry as a widespread product just yet.

 

[Shin Johnpv]

I really wish SED had come to market. It sounded like it took the best aspects of CRTs, and flat panel displays and combined it into one package. It's a shame it ended up floundering and never hitting the market. I personally made the switch to LCDs just because of space issues. I can have 2 widescreen 22' monitors on my desk and still fit everything else that needs to go on it. I really think that's what sold people on LCD technology. It wasn't a matter of it being lighter, it was how much less space they took up, and being widescreen. Widescreen CRTs were way fewer in number, and my big issue with them was almost all of them had geometry issues. Yes even the high end Sony ones, properly calibrated had some geometry issues. They did have the best blacks, and contrast levels. Fucking beautiful picture quality that really was/is better than LCD and Plasma. Yes LCD and Plasma has improved over the years, but CRT is still better. I should add that OLED is pretty damn amazing, can not wait for monitor and TV sized OLED screens to become affordable.

 

[nitewulf]

vinyl records and tubes suck for sound quality. If you want real crisp, clear sound that doesn't sound too clean and vibrates in a way which can not be put into words or numbers and therefore can't be put down by your stupid arguments, you need to get with wax cylinders and big metal horns.

that's the most idiotic thing i have ever read here. ever.

 

[Maleficence]

Good riddance.

Still used in hospitals all over the UK.

 

[Alien Bob]

Looking through the thread, most of the examples of "dead" technology seem to be more products or applications of particular technologies than technologies on their own. Certain products are mostly replaced, but the technology itself seems to last in otherways Laserdiscs and UMDs may be dead, but they aren't that much different in essence from DVDs and Blu Rays. VHS is gone, but magnetic data storage is still common. CRTs and LCDs are completely different technologies even though they have the same application, and LCDs may be more popular in general, but clearly there are those who prefer CRT and can state clearly why. There doesn't really seem to be such a thing as dead technology, apart from some obscure ancient tech which has been lost to history, which wouldn't be of much use nowadays anyway. But losing ideas to history isn't very common in modern times... apart from all the ideas Tesla couldn't implement before Edison had him assassinated.

 

[Monas]

These where a beautiful idea and a crap reality.

 

[soul creator]

cuecat, lol

although it's kind of funny that it lives on with those QR codes or whatever

 

[FunkyPajamas]

Looking through the thread, most of the examples of "dead" technology seem to be more products or applications of particular technologies than technologies on their own. Certain products are mostly replaced, but the technology itself seems to last in otherways Laserdiscs and UMDs may be dead, but they aren't that much different in essence from DVDs and Blu Rays. VHS is gone, but magnetic data storage is still common. CRTs and LCDs are completely different technologies even though they have the same application, and LCDs may be more popular in general, but clearly there are those who prefer CRT and can state clearly why. There doesn't really seem to be such a thing as dead technology, apart from some obscure ancient tech which has been lost to history, which wouldn't be of much use nowadays anyway. But losing ideas to history isn't very common in modern times... apart from all the ideas Tesla couldn't implement before Edison had him assassinated.

Best post in the thread, I was thinking about saying something like this myself, though I wouldn't have been able to express it to well.

 

[hockeypuck]

Good riddance.

As long as I'm within a certain distance of the hospital, this evil terror will reach me, even if I'm in an elevator, or at the MRI suite in the basement, places where no cell phone will ever have a signal.

Pagers are probably the wrongest answer in this thread so far, unfortunately.

 

[FoxSpirit]

These where a beautiful idea and a crap reality.

Omg, I had one of those. I can't even remember why, something with my dad :-\

 

[Stitch]

The VCD was pretty short lived, it had a big market in Asia for a while (my uncle had an actual Video-CD Player with the original Jurassic Park).

They were still around up until the very early 2000s and vanished completely when the Playstation 2 made DVD players more affordable.

uhh they are still popular for some reason.

 

[IpsoFacto]

Remember when Geocities personal pages were all the rage?

 

[itsgreen]

Speaking of dead Digital video formats, do you guys still remember these?
This one in particular was Dead On Arrival.

Super VCD logo?

SVCD was doing pretty ok around ~2000... was the prime alternative for DivX movies back then... Offered pretty good quality

 

[Anticitizen One]

my dad still has one. i guess doctors still use them for some odd reason. You'd think a text would be faster and easier.

It's because the walls of a hospital interfere with cellular calls/texts or something like that

 

[IpsoFacto]

It wasn't going anywhere, though. This was when DVDs were extremely expensive. But the SVCD films were nothing but MPEG2 films spread out through 3 or 4 CDs.

 

[Ivan A Nguyen]

cuecat, lol

although it's kind of funny that it lives on with those QR codes or whatever

I remember getting one of those with my paper. The news also has this big push where it would play a sound, and your CueCat would pick it up and go to a website.

 

[kamspy]

And I take it you have an EE degree with an emphasis on signal processing and you've taken a bunch of analog classes?

What do you mean exactly when you say "tube noise"?

The "noise" is unintended changes in the sound. Tubes can sound great, but they color the sound. Period.