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Teen who was raped commits suicide, along comes anonymous
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I just read the father's letter. Damn.
You know, if the four accused really did what they did, I'm all for the death penalty for the shits. I know its not going to happen in this world, but I can't think of a lesser punishment that's justified for these kids.
I don't care if the mods/Activist-GAF come at me for this. I'm livid.
You know, if the four accused really did what they did, I'm all for the death penalty for the shits. I know its not going to happen in this world, but I can't think of a lesser punishment that's justified for these kids.
I don't care if the mods/Activist-GAF come at me for this. I'm livid.
Unless the individuals that talked to Anonymous didn't talk to the police, there's probably nothing here that the police weren't already aware of. At best, the interest in the case might prompt a reopening, but it doesn't seem like any of the anon 'evidence' in the article is anything new.
I really hope Anonymous blows it wide open. The fact that rape-cases or testimonies are covered-up or end up being "he said, she said" is a really horrible part of the current-times.
Stubenville's case wasn't as bad as this but just as bad in the covering up for the males instead of blaming them for the sexual assault they did when insurmountable evidence proved they did it.
Stubenville's case wasn't as bad as this but just as bad in the covering up for the males instead of blaming them for the sexual assault they did when insurmountable evidence proved they did it.
CNN earned themselves on my shitlist even higher than Foxnews with the crap they pulled during the Steubenville stuff.
They spent the entire time going over how bad it must be to be the boys and having their lives ruined since they were such good athletes etc. Not once did they worry about the girl it was always the poor guys.
wsoxfan1214
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Are you fucking kidding me? There are pictures going around that they took and the fucking police couldn't even check the EXIF data of the picture?
Fucking idiots.
I guarantee one of the rapists are linked to someone in the force.
Fucking idiots.
I guarantee one of the rapists are linked to someone in the force.
Cotton McKnight
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When I was in HS, there were a rash of girls who said they got raped. Sad thing about it was, the "perps" were popular guys, and on their coolness level alone, the masses made fun of the girls and called them drama queens and sluts, neither of them were these nasty descriptions. (rash in this case = 2 from my grade senior year) I felt bad for never saying anything against the people who opposed the two young girls, they were very nice (the girls that is).
That is just one way I have personally observed your quote...Sad stuff.
I wouldn't want to go to the press if I was raped. It would be very humiliating and embarrassing.
I sure as hell would so scum fucks and all involved would get what's coming to them.
I get where you are coming from and I agree mostly but her fathers letter really addresses this well and in such a damning way of the justice system
digoutyoursoul
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Thoughts are with her family and friends
Absolutely horrendous and not just the rapists themselves but those giving her shit should be ashamed , fucking disgrace
Absolutely horrendous and not just the rapists themselves but those giving her shit should be ashamed , fucking disgrace
That's quite a heartbreaking quote. It reminds me of a case where a girl tried to seek help from her teacher but she downplay her trauma ( sexual assault ) thinking the victim share some responsibilities for the incident and basically give her the cold shoulder. That afternoon, the victim then stood on the edge of the platform, contemplating to jump and suicide. She was quickly spotted by the members of the schools and people tried to negotiate with her to come down.
When her teacher eventually appear, the victim let a resigned smile and jump. I always thought that was the catalyst to trigger her decision, she wanted to show her circumstances are indeed dire and someone close to her could have help her but didn't.
Because teenage brains don't yet work properly.
When I was in HS, there was a girl who was sort of popular and was a student trainer for the football team claim she had a sexual relationship with one of the assistant coaches. Guy also taught Phys Ed and was pretty well-liked. Nothing ever came out of it, but the coach left town (or was made to leave) ASAP and the girl was bullied, dropped by all her friends, and was made fun of/ostracized for the remainder of her time in school.
Oh I don't think it's a fair comparison at all. I've yet to talk to anyone who doesn't want legal action taken on the boys.
god damn!
WTF? How is this even a question? What was specifically done to her?
They should have gotten what was coming to them but it didn't happen. If you go to the press, you'd be forever "the girl who was raped" which is not what I would want to be. Some people would be fine with that I guess but not I.
Hero_of_the_Day
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Saw this on the front page of yahoo and assumed it was related. Nope, a completely separate case. Fuck the world.
http://news.yahoo.com/3-teens-arres...9nc3x0aGVsb29rb3V0BHB0A3N0b3J5cGFnZQ--;_ylv=3
http://news.yahoo.com/3-teens-arres...9nc3x0aGVsb29rb3V0BHB0A3N0b3J5cGFnZQ--;_ylv=3
Ditto. The facts were so similar and then I did the same thing. Oh. Fuck this world.
digoutyoursoul
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What the fuck is wrong with people
Damn. Fuck. Another lost soul. Why? Am I wrong in thinking that there is something fundamentally wrong with today's youth in regards to sex and sexual assault/rape? Hell, there is something wrong with the world's view on sex and rape in general. This disregard of rape in so many "first world" countries is really troubling. I don't know what to think anymore. =(
Frankenstrat
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This is blowing my mind. What the hell is wrong with these people?
Jesus christ.
This is not a new phenomenon, bullying has been around forever but it wasn't as widely reported back then. During my high school years certain people really had it rough but obviously no sexual assaults or anything like that.
But internet is providing faceless support towards objectifying women and belittling rape. You hear rape jokes constantly even on this forum, people post pictures and pretend it's not a big deal.
I just don't think the first reaction should be that of anger towards the perpetrators. We need to understand the symptoms, provide counselling to teenagers and make it clear what is acceptable in a civilized society.
Cow Mengde
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Yup, saw this at work and thought it was the same thing. At least this one is taken a little more seriously by the police.
I think these people are just trolling. I don't mean it makes it anymore right, but just trolls being trolls.
SolidsnackooFoxhound
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Brought tears to my eyes.Whitebison
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what the hell is wrong with the police? man that's just depressing....poor girl.
RIP.
RIP.
You might be right but I'm not sure if it's that simple. Are these troubled teenagers coming from broken homes or are they people who have grown up without parents setting any limits to them? (that's how the Steubenville case was reported). What is the impact of internet culture and so on.
Once again a horrible tragedy though.
R3TRO
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Agreed
stufte
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Jesus man, quit acting like there is some "kids are innocently stupid of their actions" epidemic happening. Kids are asshole, and they know wtf is right and wrong. And anger is more than justified.
Cow Mengde
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Yeah I agree. Especially at 17. They're more than old enough to understand the consequences.
Look I also get angry at reading these sorts of news.
But it just doesn't get us anywhere if always the reaction is that of "string them up", "I hope they burn in hell", "a bunch of animals" and so on.
Many of us have done some stupid shit during high school but nothing happened. When I was a teenager I remember a time when a bunch of us (while drunk) decided that it was a good idea to race during night time. A bunch of morons (us) giggled while having 100 mph in the meter - on a narrow street.
Sexual assault, molesting a girl while she is sleeping, is worse (as long as nobody dies when you use your fathers car while being smashed) but sending embarrassing pictures of someone and laughing about it is probably rather common. I passed out once in a party and people from my school took some really embarrassing pictures of me and next week everyone in school knew about it. I had high self esteem and laughed it off and these days we look back on those days and joke about it but another person could have taken it really hard.
Bottom line : Teenagers are stupid, adults need to be rational and find ways to eradicate that sort of behavior.
ps. These rapists are minors and will only serve suspended jail sentences anyway. Concentrating on them will only increase the amount of frustration, because they will walk. That's the way our justice system works and I don't really want to change it even if these tragedies are hard to read.
Another member of HRM-GAF checking in... god, I want to move out of this town so much but can't get away.
At least Anon's keeping the pressure on (apologies if old, didn't see it):
http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/04/12/anonymous-claims-it-has-new-details-about-four-boys/
At least Anon's keeping the pressure on (apologies if old, didn't see it):
http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/04/12/anonymous-claims-it-has-new-details-about-four-boys/
That's completely different from seeing someone sexually assaulted, then taking a picture and passing it around school while calling the victim a whore and slut and ostracizing said victim. Bottom line: we are all within our rights to call these little shits monsters.
Cow Mengde
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Yeah, what's described here is a malicious act done by people who are fully awake. ICKE and his friends did stupid things while drunk.
Sye d'Burns
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The headline of this article made me think it was originally talking about this case. Sadly, it wasn't so. Good for the Pott family, however.
3 TEENS ARRESTED AFTER CALIF. GIRL'S SUICIDE said:SARATOGA, Calif. (AP) -- Eight days after being sexually assaulted while passed out at a party, and then humiliated by online photos, 15-year-old Audrie Pott posted on Facebook that her life was ruined, "worst day ever," and hanged herself, the family's lawyer said.
For the next eight months, her family struggled to figure out what happened to their soccer loving, artistic, horse crazy daughter, whose gentle smile, long dark hair and shining eyes belied a struggling soul.
And then on Thursday, seven months after the tragedy, a California sheriff's office arrested three 16-year-old boys on suspicion of sexual battery. The arrests "reopened a wound" for family members of Pott, and they have gone into seclusion, family attorney Robert Allard said.
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The Pott family is not alone.
In Canada on Thursday, authorities said they were looking further into the case of a teenage girl who hanged herself Sunday after an alleged rape and months of bullying. A photo said to be of the 2011 assault was shared online.
No charges initially were filed against four teenage boys being investigated. But after an outcry, Nova Scotia's justice minister appointed four government departments to look into the case.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_ASSAULTED_TEEN_SUICIDE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-04-12-04-42-00
...or you know, you could just teach your kids not to rape other people.
Or perhaps they were not aware of the sexual assault itself but decided to laugh at her, because of the nude pictures that were distributed? You might be right of course, that would only make it so much worse.
Both of these girls were unconscious so one would assume that alcohol was heavily involved and people were drunk. That does not excuse sexual assault but teenagers who are smashed out and have grown without limits is a bad combination. What I struggle to understand is this culture of bragging about it afterwards. Yes, we also didn't think too much about our little stunt in the streets of Brussels but had we bumped into someone...I can't understand the mindset of being cheerful about it. You obviously won't stop teenagers, girls or boys, from experimenting with alcohol but even my classmates had the common sense of calling a taxi to hospital when one girl passed out and seemed to be in really bad shape.
Hero_of_the_Day
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Where were the parents who owned the houses where the parties and rapes took place? If nothing else, seems like they did a poor job of teaching their kids how to not rape.
Devolution
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Oh it happened you just wouldn't be seeing this coverage about it. The victim would be completely blamed and forced to deal with it in silence.
Hero_of_the_Day
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Well, two out of the three recent cases we would have never heard about if it weren't for Anon. So part of it is that the internet has changed things. I believe the majority of sexual assaults go unreported also.
There is no doubt an argument here, but there is also the reverse argument, that possibly as a society, especially with boys, we have become too lenient.
In my day, if a boy did something like this, there was a damn good chance his dad was going to beat the living hell out of him, and he knew it. Today? I'm not so sure, and you have to wonder if that affects mentalities.
I'm a very firm believer that for men, sometimes the only way a lesson is truly learned, is through a punch to the face.
Before 1994 the law didn't even recognize spousal rape in Finland. And there was also an epidemic called the "boss' privilege" when it came to young secretaries working in the private sector.
So society is a lot better these days despite these horrid stories. Good old times, there were none.
Devolution
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Most marital rape laws didn't come to the west till the 90s. It was assumed it was your duty to comply with your spouses wishes. And rape as a violation of a woman's autonomy rather than just property damage is a relatively new idea. The past is awful, awful shit, no one should think otherwise.
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