Cow Mengde
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How many years ago was it? My guess is if it was before the internet age, we just don't get as much information as quickly as we do now.
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Teen who was raped commits suicide, along comes anonymous
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How many years ago was it? My guess is if it was before the internet age, we just don't get as much information as quickly as we do now.
Holy crap. I had friends that went to Saratoga High just a few years ago. It's just a few minutes away from my high school (graduated in '08). This isn't even a bad part of town; it's in the Silicon Valley suburbs.
From wikipedia: "In 2008 CNN/Money ranked Saratoga number 4 in its listing of top-earning towns. Saratoga also was ranked by Forbes in 2009 as one of America's top 20 most-educated small towns. In 2010 Bloomberg Businessweek named Saratoga the most expensive suburb in California."
What the hell is wrong with these kids? How can you live in such a nice area and become so morally fucked-up? Are their parents too career-focused to notice?
Aaron Strife
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Society is a big enabler in letting things like this happen. We've very much committed ourselves to "slut shaming" where women using birth control, having sex before marriage etc. are whores and deserve what's coming to them, while the men get off scot-free even though they were the ones committing the sexual act. This also extends to rape, where no amount of clothing isn't "asking for it." (Funny how this doesn't apply to douchebag men sagging their pants showing off their boxers or walking around in their wife beaters or even shirtless, but hey, that's male-dominated society for you)
The boys in these instances also usually (not always, but usually) are on the sports teams or something that earns them high standing with their peers, which America gives an absurd amount of importance in the school system, mainly due to parents who try and live vicariously through their children and aren't any more mature than their children mentally.
However, this is something you can only really say looking at the broader issue. These fuckers deserve the worst. No amount of bad parenting should tell you that raping a drunk girl at a party is okay, not to mention the follow up bullying (another thing that's swept under the rug) and harassment she endured. It's sort of like that CNN story that focused entirely on two boys who were tried and convicted for raping a girl, and how "oh no, their lives have been ruined!" Yeah, it's sad in its own way, but what about the girl? She's going to have to carry that baggage with her for the rest of her life. She is the victim of a very personal crime. And for the usual concern trolls who come in and complain about people saying the victim was pretty or whatever, the girl in the CNN story wasn't named or photographed and it still caused a ruckus from people who actually have, you know, perspective.
The boys in these instances also usually (not always, but usually) are on the sports teams or something that earns them high standing with their peers, which America gives an absurd amount of importance in the school system, mainly due to parents who try and live vicariously through their children and aren't any more mature than their children mentally.
However, this is something you can only really say looking at the broader issue. These fuckers deserve the worst. No amount of bad parenting should tell you that raping a drunk girl at a party is okay, not to mention the follow up bullying (another thing that's swept under the rug) and harassment she endured. It's sort of like that CNN story that focused entirely on two boys who were tried and convicted for raping a girl, and how "oh no, their lives have been ruined!" Yeah, it's sad in its own way, but what about the girl? She's going to have to carry that baggage with her for the rest of her life. She is the victim of a very personal crime. And for the usual concern trolls who come in and complain about people saying the victim was pretty or whatever, the girl in the CNN story wasn't named or photographed and it still caused a ruckus from people who actually have, you know, perspective.
Kids who grow up in wealthy neighborhoods turn out to be entitled little shits. Speaking from experience here.Toparaman said:
This is definitely new. Glad to see that this wing of Anon is doing some good.
Assuming this is true, it will be nearly impossible to prove sexual assault in the court when you have a bunch of teenagers under influence and having sex with one another (unless you have a straight up confession of taking an advantage of a passed out girl). Hopefully the police can straight it out.
But if this is the sort of story that has gained ground in their school, it's not a surprise she has been ostracized by other girls. Teenagers can be extremely harsh. Thinking back to my own high school days, if there was a story going on about one girl having an orgy with various guys, she would have been labeled as a whore basically. That's not fair by any stretch of imagination - for a guy on the other hand it would have been an achievement.
Anton668
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CrudeDiatribe
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Drunk.
JetBlackPanda
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this makes me sick. I can't help but worry for my own daughter.
ugh.
ugh.
Devolution
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It's been clear from the start. No idea why you've decided to pick this case as your example for young people not being informed enough about rape. This was an obvious case of these boys knowing what they did was wrong.
BenjaminBirdie
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https://twitter.com/CBCAlerts/status/322793313172348928
"New tip", yeah okay.
Anyway, at least they're doing something now.
"New tip", yeah okay.
Anyway, at least they're doing something now.
Anton668
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a number of reports i've read stated she was either passed out or blacked out.
this guy saying "inebriated" and "throwing up", to me the two do not add up.
you dont throw up just because youve had a few. your bodys defense system makes you throw up to protect itself from damage. As Vomiting is a symptom of alcohol poisoning.
If a person is throwing up from drinking, they are well past the point of making conscious decisions.
CrudeDiatribe
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The police press release suggests it's a witness that's suddenly interested in not being quiet anymore.
Good.
Count Dookkake
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More like tip of the spear.
So it flies over your head that Anonymous means anyone can be a dick or vigilante in their spare time?
Thank GOD. I don't want Anon to leak names of people who aren't involved with it at all and get it all wrong.
Best case scenario would be a straight up confession from the people who allegedly were responsible for the act. Hopefully this media attention has served as a wake up call for people in the community - be it those who were part of the bullying, staying silent and so on. Can't change the past but repentance is always there and apparently someone has taken that first step.
CrudeDiatribe
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They issued a statement last night or this morning saying they weren't going to leak the names, and reiterated that some of the name speculation online was wrong.
I dont know how they couldnt admit to it after the suicide. Life from then on would be hard.
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