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Tell me about adderall
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greatestjediever
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Never tried it but I'm pretty sure a majority of grad school and med school were abusing it to study.
Maybe you just grew up and realized that reading is boring.
i nerini del buio
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Considering I'm ocd I would probably end up blowing my brain off with a gunshot. Would try Adderall otherwise. Must be interesting.
Nope tried it, Also melatonin, gylcine, taurine ,rhodiola, gotu kola, ashwaganda....
Phenibut seems to work the best for me but its not for daily use. I take 3 grams once a week and it doesn't have me springing out bed but I feel a little more rested.
I'm not qualified to say whether you have ADD, but I used to be able to fly though books too. This was when I was really young. But now that I look back on it, reading was always a problem. I was big into Animorphs and Goosebumps and all that stuff, but I actually do remember not being able to grasp everything I was reading. And anything that's technical is so dry that my brain won't even go near it. I'm diagnosed ADHD.
I did wonder whether I just found books boring, but I don't think that's true. I still love reading. The problem is more 'mechanical' more than anything. Also, I have a similar issue with watching films. I always have to either wear earphones so the dialogue is being screamed into my ear, or watch them with subtitles. Do you have an issue with writing? My writing is as choppy as fuck, and I can take hours to write a single paragraph because all I'm doing is re-editing and re-writing and changing shit for hours.
And yes, ADD medication does help these things for some people. To be honest, I feel a bit of resent towards people who take ADHD meds just to get a decent grade.
Yes and I have a PT job that requires me to be active. I eat well, completely elimated refined suger, refined carbs and energy drinks once again for the new year. I get caffeine in the morning from matcha, yerba mate or cacao. No TV or PC in the bedroom.
I always had trouble getting out bed even in elementary school :/
Yep I have all those writing issue. Took the P.E.R.T twice when applying for college and bombed the math section hard. The guy over the test asked if I had a learning disorder but I wasnt sure.
Take 100mg of 5HTP in the morning, 100mg midday, 100mg right before bed. Your dreams will turn into complex HD masterpieces. You will walk up refreshed and all negative thoughts throughout the day will be dulled out.
I'm a bit wary of using 5HTP in the morning because of possible drowsiness.
Adaptogens like Bacopa maybe better suited for that and safer for long term use.
I might try anyhow to see if it helps.
Hopefully you and your physician can find a solution. Good luck.
samus i am
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Thank you for summing up my feelings very eloquently. There are a lot of negative Nancys in here. Your experiences closely match my own. I'd also like to add that I never got addicted to it. I took it for two years but I haven't renewed my prescription since last June (switched jobs).
Damon Bennet
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so are you really able to buy adderall in a chain like k-mart, or was that a joke
This!
And how much does Adderall even cost? Can't look it up because I am from europe.
Thanks I hope so too.
It was a joke. Every student in the US would go buy Adderall if the FDA made it that easy. Not even getting into the problem of amphetamine abuse.
criesofthepast
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Adderall is expensive as fuck here in Canada. It also seems to be not prescribed as much as something like Concerta. I had to ask my doc for it and he looked it up in his big medical encyclopedia right in front of me.
I've tried both and Adderall worked a bit better but ultimately these things aren't a long term solution and you got to find another way to concentrate and get shit done. I have leftovers on hand maybe for exam times but other than that I get by without em now. I haven't used them since the first month I was prescribed them back in september or so.
Back to the cost - your looking at $100 at least for 30 pills if not insured. The company that makes Concerta (methylphenidate aka Ritalin IIRC) has a co pay assist program where you can pay the generic cost and get the real stuff at least here in Canada. With Concerta there is some talk about the generic not being the same due to its time release mechanism or whatever. So go name brand if you can.
Also, if not motivated this shit will not work. Its not the magic pill everyone says it is. You don't take it and automatically spit out a 10 page essay without blinking. Just keeps you focused on the task at hand. If you rather play video games instead of study and start doing that while on Adderall then you'll probably sit there all day playing video games.
I've tried both and Adderall worked a bit better but ultimately these things aren't a long term solution and you got to find another way to concentrate and get shit done. I have leftovers on hand maybe for exam times but other than that I get by without em now. I haven't used them since the first month I was prescribed them back in september or so.
Back to the cost - your looking at $100 at least for 30 pills if not insured. The company that makes Concerta (methylphenidate aka Ritalin IIRC) has a co pay assist program where you can pay the generic cost and get the real stuff at least here in Canada. With Concerta there is some talk about the generic not being the same due to its time release mechanism or whatever. So go name brand if you can.
Also, if not motivated this shit will not work. Its not the magic pill everyone says it is. You don't take it and automatically spit out a 10 page essay without blinking. Just keeps you focused on the task at hand. If you rather play video games instead of study and start doing that while on Adderall then you'll probably sit there all day playing video games.
Modalert worked surprisingly well at first. Tolerance set in very quickly for me. (around three 400mg doses)
Low dose selegiline might be useful for some people also.
There are legal drugs called nootropics that can have similar effects to adderall. Noopept is a potent one. Piracetam is probably the most popular. I can't recommend them for long-term use because of mood-dulling side effects (when i experimented with them i felt like a robot, completely dispassionate), but they might help with focusing on a short-term basis. It's no disease treatment.
Still, I can't in good conscience tell anyone to take them without first consulting with a doctor.
Still, I can't in good conscience tell anyone to take them without first consulting with a doctor.
It only makes you sleep at night time. During the day its pure serotonin building baby, Feeling good man but nothing to extreme. It just makes you feel fine with no buzz or anything like that.
The main thing is the awesome nights sleep you have off the stuff. I used to wake up every 40 or so minutes during the night before i started taking the shit.
The dreams are also fucking awesome. Really good HD dreams.
I don't think many doctors will be familiar with nootropics.
Right now I take:
Piracetam 800mg
Sulbutiamine 600mg
Idebenone 50 or 180mg
with Shilajit and Ashwaganda daily. Celastrus oil (jyotishmat) ocassionally for a nice pick me up. Only had it for a couple of weeks.
Used
Pramiracetam
Noopept
Centrophenoxine
Alpha GPC
CDP choline
Modafinil (modalert)
Selegiline
Aniracetam
Cerebrolysin
I felt Aniracetam was more effective than Noopept. I broke my other scale so Noopept sits on the shelve.
Choke on the Magic
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Adderall is glorious if you take it as perscribed. If you drink you should quit while taking it. It's an amphetamine so it can be addictive if you abuse it. Coming off of the stuff is dreadful.
shadowsdarknes
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Also, lack of exercise. Masturbation in excess isn't healthy. Bad sleeping habits is probably the primary reason.
OP Adderrol is a shit drug that is addictive and essentially a bandaid to the actual problem.
I wish it work that well for me. When I use to go to a quack I bought supplements from a company called NeuroScience inc. Expensive bollocks but I slept like a baby and had crazy lucid dreams. Was able to rise from bed with ease and actually focus. Still don't really understand why. Nothing I've done to date has had that effect and it wasn't just a placebo.
I guess urine and salvia test that measure neurotransmitters can be useful. Still ultimately worthless if there is no affordable way to mange the underlying issue.
Talk to a doctor or psychologist.
If the OP has a neurological disorder any treatment is essentially a band aid to the actual problem. Many drugs like Adderall are good for managing ADHD symptoms. CBT could also be helpful.
If the OP has ADD or a similar disorder, there is no cure. Daily treatment is very effective and has massive amounts of science to support it.
Exr
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Yeah absolutely. After taking a half pill I can't believe people take a full pill of this daily. I understand there are those who need it, but using it with regularity must get very taxing.
-Pyromaniac-
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OP should just go visit a delicate genius.
shadowsdarknes
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I've had the same "symptoms" for my first two years of college. Everything he describes in his OP perfectly describes my "condition." Adderrol was a miracle drug for me. Oh wait, Adderrol is a miracle drug for every distracted person. I would say, "man reading these chapters in my textbook is a drag. Why can't I read for fun anymore? This shit makes me tired!" Then I discovered discipline and structure.
I'm a firm believer in science, love science, and always seek scientific answers for most things in life. However, Adderrol and 90% of all prescription drugs are over prescribed, prescribed to the wrong people, and for the wrong reasons.
My point is, there are safer and healthier alternatives than turning to amphetamines for a quick, simple fix that will last you X amount of years, and X amount of dose increases before your Dr. stops your prescriptions because your in the early stages of developing a heart condition. Have fun embracing withdraws!
I say choose an alternative route because its ultimately safer and better for the longterm.
Clearly you do not know what science is, because you have:
1. Contradicted dozens of Scientific studies and work on understanding ADD, a recognized disorder without any evidence.
2. Pulled a statistic out of thin air, something Science would reject intrinsically.
3. Cannot spell Adderall.
shadowsdarknes
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Way to completely ignore the larger point in my post to be a condescending little shit!
What's even more hilarious is how you claim there are dozens of scientific studies without referencing these studies. Not that I don't believe its existence, but your exhibiting as much ignorance as I am.
I have NEVER been able to read several books a week, and I dont have ADHD @_@ wth dude
And now I feel bad about it, I mean I do study but I always feel its not enough I just do the required stuff, readings, semminare, labs, read ppt, watch lessons recorded once too fuck this is why I hate comming here. I never sit for hours and study I do it in bursts then I HAVE TO FUCKING QUIT YOU DICKS I do read before bed some fiction but it takes a month to read a book for me unless I focus on it like studying also might start watching lain today
Always someone complaining about being better than me. Fuck it
Noopept has caught my curiosity. I did some digging to find known side-effects but to no avail. Any suggestions a reliable place to find this?
http://www.cerebralhealth.com/brainhealthsupplements.php
I usally order from cerebral health. Noopept is $49 for 10 grams.
EleventhDoctor
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I started taking this last year and I can tell you it's the best thing I ever did for myself. I was diagnosed with adult ADHD I'm more focused, I feel calm-which is funny considering it's speed. I would go to work an anxious, unfocused, exhausted mess-and now I'm completly straightened out. I sometimes don't take it on the weekend and I can immediately tell a difference. It's also helped my marriage in as far as I'm more motivated to help out and do things, an I'm less cranky and moody.
It's wonderful.
The first time I took it, it was as if a fog in my head cleared for the first time in my life and for once I felt like everyone else around me-not easily exhausted.
It's wonderful.
The first time I took it, it was as if a fog in my head cleared for the first time in my life and for once I felt like everyone else around me-not easily exhausted.
I hear it has this effect on people with ADHD. For people withouth ADHD, the effect is like speed
EleventhDoctor
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Yes, my doc said the same.
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