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i never had an original xbox and games for it are now pretty cheap. stuff that I'd be interested in playing are on this list, and there are many more than i thought were compatible.

do games generally work OK? take burnout 3 for example, i remember playing it in 480p on PS2 years ago, does it run in progressing scan through an Xbox 360? something like Criterion's Black is another one I've never played.. is it a viable way to play it?

i only ask because i was under the impression that the backwards compatibility list was much smaller, so I've never given it a second thought. no one ever really talks about it.. i think you just need a hard drive, right?

 

[bigkrev]

Some stuff works really weird. Tony Hawk 3 gives you audio only if you are at 720P or higher, you have to flip down to standard def to get an image. NCAA Football 06 features massive slowdown everytime you snap the ball, resuming to full speed as soon as a tackle is made.

If you just want to check some games out, it's fine, but if you want to sit down and get deep into the games/library, it isn't ideal

 

[LewieP]

Black is the only original Xbox game I've played on Xbox 360 and it plays fine, and it's a fucking fantastic game.

Quite a few games have bugs or issues. This appears to be pretty comprehensive.

 

[Miker]

Black is the only original Xbox game I've played on Xbox 360 and it plays fine, and it's a fucking fantastic game.

Quite a few games have bugs or issues. This appears to be pretty comprehensive.

Damn, you weren't kidding:

Half-Life 2: "Loading images at title screen are gone. Some frame rate issues are prevalent in the opening part of the game. Game saves suddenly become corrupted after 2 months of not playing the game (regular playing is required until completion)."

How does that even happen?

 

[oneida]

It's hit or miss. Shenmue 2 has some sound glitches that make the part time job pretty much impossible to do correctly, but it's not game breaking. Panzer Dragoon Orta runs amazing, but the unlockable port of Panzer Dragoon 1 doesn't boot. In general, it's a mixed bag - not as good as Gamecube games on Wii, but better than Playstation 2 games on PS3.

 

[Jamix012]

It's hit or miss. Shenmue 2 has some sound glitches that make the part time job pretty much impossible to do correctly, but it's not game breaking. Panzer Dragoon Orta runs amazing, but the unlockable port of Panzer Dragoon 1 doesn't boot. In general, it's a mixed bag - not as good as Gamecube games on Wii, but better than Playstation 2 games on PS3.

On what planet is near 100% compatibility (with old models) better than 50% semi compatibility with the vast majority of games running with some errors?

 

[Inuhanyou]

OP, Play

Dead or Alive Ultimate Collection, Dead Or Alive 3

Ninja Gaiden 1/Black

Burnout 3 Takedown

Panzer Dragoon Orta

Genji Onimusha

Breakdown



Those are all by far the best performing and best looking games on 360 Xbox BC, and they are great games too.

The problem with OG Xbox games on 360 is that a lot of them run badly or have severe emulation issues that hurt the playablity of the title. There are only a handful that run as well as their OG counterparts, and smaller still that actually look significantly better than on their original hardware.

The ones i listed are among that last segment

 

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awesome, thanks guys.

 

[bigkrev]

Damn, you weren't kidding:

Half-Life 2: "Loading images at title screen are gone. Some frame rate issues are prevalent in the opening part of the game. Game saves suddenly become corrupted after 2 months of not playing the game (regular playing is required until completion)."

How does that even happen?

In general, a lot of those and the games that seem out of place (looking at you, Barbie!) is that every game to to be individually programmed, but sometimes programming for one game accidentally made something else work (to a degree), they just threw it on the list and said it was compatible

 

[Flysquare]

Such a shame games like Dead or Alive Xtreme Beach Volleyball or Dino Crisis 3 aren't compatible.
From what i only played, Crash Bandicoot The Wrath of Cortex runs flawlessly.

 

[oneida]

On what planet is near 100% compatibility (with old models) better than 50% semi compatibility with the vast majority of games running with some errors?

on a planet where PS3s with PS2 backcompat constitute less than 1% of all PS3s produced

 

[Herp Derpington]

So with the old Live gone would it even make sense to bring Xbox games to the One? If I can play PGR2 again that'd be sweet but if I can't do online mp it's kinda pointless.

edit - noticed this is about Xbox games on 360, my bad. Still, would it make sense to try to go back to the well for the One? I remember being excited by Xbox games on 360 until I played a few and it became pretty apparent it was a disappointing experience for the most part.

 

[Menitta]

I only have a few games that work. Halo 1, Halo 2, DOA3, and JSRF/Sega GT.

Xbox OG backwards compatibility is all depending on the individual game. The more complex the game, the worse it is, generally. Off the top of my head, the Judge Dredd game is terrible on BC. It looks like your tilting an N64 cartridge. JSRF has really bad framerate and slowdown in certain areas. Halo 1 and 2 are great, as far as I remember (I might be wrong).

If you're buying a 360 to play OG Xbox games, you're better off just getting an OG Xbox. There are a lot of games that don't work on 360. Like Hitman 2.

 

[Transistor]

HALO 1 runs like dog shit in coop sometimes on my 360

 

[Novocaine]

I recall DOOM 3 running pretty well but it's been a while.

 

[frogger]

Ninja Gaiden Black, what the BC is for.

 

[Jamix012]

on a planet where PS3s with PS2 backcompat constitute less than 1% of all PS3s produced

Firstly, you know that's hyperbole because the PS3 sold around 90 million and to say that less than 1% of all PS3s produced were backward compatible is saying that less than a million were sold before they completely wiped out bc. More like 5%-10%.

Secondly, I kind of assumed we were talking about the PS3's which actually had BC.

 

[jelly]

I played Splinter Cell Double Agent, the better version, more like Chaos Theory.

Seemed to work fine, may have loaded a little slower but no other issues in that one.

I think some games are a bit ropey, shame they gave up so early. Hope it comes to Xbox One eventually. Ninja Gaiden Black please.

 

[koopas]

Ninja Gaiden Black, what the BC is for.

I felt like this game and Halo 2 is what NC was built for.

 

[Ric Flair]

I would almost say to just buy an OG Xbox off something like the goodwill auction site. They're pretty cheap at the moment, got mine that way for around ten bucks. Only thing you need to do is remove the clock thing from the motherboard.

 

[RowdyReverb]

I played Splinter Cell Double Agent, the better version, more like Chaos Theory.

Seemed to work fine, may have loaded a little slower but no other issues in that one.

I think some games are a bit ropey, shame they gave up so early. Hope it comes to Xbox One eventually. Ninja Gaiden Black please.

I wonder if they've toyed around with running these games' X360 BC profiles on the XB1's 360 emulator. The games on that list in the OP are definitely old enough to get some purchases on nostalgia alone

 

[sixteen-bit]

Ninja Gaiden Black, what the BC is for.

Gave me a reason to replay the game a few more times. One of the GOATs.

 

[EmiPrime]

It's almost completely worthless; even the games that do run have numerous performance and sound bugs.

To give you an idea of the sort of bugs you can expect: when you finish a race in Outrun 2 the engine noise does not stop, the sound just loops and persists through loading screens and menus until you quit the game. Halo 2 has an issue with images staying on-screen until the console gets reset. The PAL Panzer Dragoon Orta crashes after level 3.

They tested to see if games loaded the title screen, stuck it on their list and then called it a day and then they stopped working on the emulator after 2 years. It's the reason I am very wary about Xbox One's 360 BC.

 

[inky]

Ninja Gaiden Black, Kindgom Under Fire, Winning Eleven.

All perform decently and were the only reason I kept the thing.

 

[inner-G]

Only thing I use it for is Shenmue 2 but it looks/plays great.

You have to download some kind of patch initially.

 

[HTupolev]

HALO 1 runs like dog shit in coop sometimes on my 360

To be fair, Halo 1 is a pretty spiky 30fps even on the original Xbox. But the emulator does frequently seem to do worse.

 

[Snaku]

You're better off buying an OG Xbox. You'll be missing out on a lot of gems if you rely on 360's bc, and the games it does run play really poorly. Pick up a OG Xbox on the cheap, buy some component cables, and enjoy. Most games run at 480p or better, some even topping out at 1080i. Of the consoles from that gen, the OG Xbox holds up the best visually.

 

[SoundPulse]

Emulation on the 360 works, for the most part, but even the Halo games run into some annoying issues. If it's just a couple of games you're interested in, it's alright. If you're looking at playing a decent number of OG Xbox games, you should probably be looking at buying yourself an OG Xbox.

 

[Onaco]

Such a shame games like Dead or Alive Xtreme Beach Volleyball or Dino Crisis 3 aren't compatible.
From what i only played, Crash Bandicoot The Wrath of Cortex runs flawlessly.

Wrath of Cortex on Xbox is the definitive experience with its enhanced graphics and really fast loading screens. The original PS2 release (NOT the Greatest Hits release) would take minutes to load on every loading screen. The Xbox and Gamecube versions corrected this. The Xbox version also had better graphics, lighting, realistic fur for characters with fur. GameCube had the worst graphics than the other two platforms with some models and partical effects not loading properly in cutscenes. GameCube did have a GC to GBA Mini Game called Crash Blast that was a shooting gallery with Crash's fruit bazooka. It wasn't that great, but it was a thing. Wrath of Cortex can also be downloaded from the Xbox Marketplace for about $10, iirc.

Crash Nitro Kart on Xbox has some issues with textures, if I recall right. It can play in Native 720p on Xbox, though. Pretty impressive for a 2003 release.

 

[MaverickHunterX]

Wrath of Cortex on Xbox is the definitive experience with its enhanced graphics and really fast loading screens. The original PS2 release (NOT the Greatest Hits release) would take minutes to load on every loading screen. The Xbox and Gamecube versions corrected this. The Xbox version also had better graphics, lighting, realistic fur for characters with fur. GameCube had the worst graphics than the other two platforms with some models and partical effects not loading properly in cutscenes. GameCube did have a GC to GBA Mini Game called Crash Blast that was a shooting gallery with Crash's fruit bazooka. It wasn't that great, but it was a thing. Wrath of Cortex can also be downloaded from the Xbox Marketplace for about $10, iirc.

Crash Nitro Kart on Xbox has some issues with textures, if I recall right. It can play in Native 720p on Xbox, though. Pretty impressive for a 2003 release.

Don't mean to change the subject but you're saying the GH version of Crash: WOC fixes the long ass loading?

 

[Gai Murakumo]

Some played alright, others had some weird bugs and framerate issues. An example would be the weird burn image effect on Halo 2.

 

[Leonidas]

I was just playing some PGR1 and in the first cone challenge the game was running at like 5-10 fps at points, this isn't normal is it?

 

[ScientificPizza]

in that Lord of the Rings game that is basically final fantasy x every time you get near a chest the screen flashes white and it becomes incredibly annoying almost immediately

i'm also pretty sure the sound is busted too

both halo games worked fine, though. and weirdly morrowind was also pretty good

 

[rapid32.5]

Buffy, Ninja Gaiden and Onimusha played fine when I had my 360 around.

 

[Eggbok]

Ninja Gaiden Black
Knights of the Old Republic I & II
Jedi Academy
Tao Feng
Carve
Enter The Matrix
Path of Neo
Lord of the Rings Return of the King

What I would love but I know won't happen.

 

[Izuna]

Games you MUST play:

Ninja Gaiden Black
Panzer Dragoon Orta

~~

Black and JSRF are both pretty damn good games though

edit: if you have no other way to play Kotor then yeah. Otherwise, play it on your phone

 

[Mr. Enigma]

Original Xbox emulation on Xbox 360 is crap. Some of the games "supported" run very poorly. Marvel vs. Capcom 2 runs at like 5fps. They only worked on emulation for about a year or so and abandoned it.

 

[Stopdoor]

Hmm, didn't know there was this many issues, I've played Halo, SSX3, Godzilla Save the Earth, Fusion Frenzy, and the Mortal Kombats on it and they've all been fine, so I guess I'm lucky?

One thing that massively annoys me is you can't move original Xbox save data if you switch hard drives without a transfer cable.

 

[Izuna]

Original Xbox emulation on Xbox 360 is crap. Some of the games "supported" run very poorly. Marvel vs. Capcom 2 runs at like 5fps. They only worked on emulation for about a year or so and abandoned it.

Well, it plays the two best games perfectly (outside of Orta being broken for PAL and NG:B having slow FMVs) but otherwise.. that's amazing

 

[Buddy Mcpuddy]

Oddworld Munch's Oddysee is missing most of its sound, it is unplayable.

It was pretty infuriating at the time as it was a game I was pretty sad to miss out on upon release, that said I finished the Vita version recently and even with the enhancements it isn't a great experience.

 

[jizzlobber]

Deathrow runs well on Xbox 360, and it's one of the best games ever.

 

[EctoPrime]

Shenmue 2 has a few glitches but the game works pretty well overall. Sound will distort and crackle in certain points near the end of the game. Out of the four arcade games Afterburner 2, Outrun and Space Harrier are playable with graphical glitches while Hangon will crash the game. Outrun seems to have the most gltches with missing sprites and some sprites layered incorrectly while Afterburner will crash if you let it cycle through the attract screens.

 

[xuchu]

Ninja gaiden black works flawlessly. Should be pretty cheap on the marketplace too.
Edit: wow, this thread is old.

 

[dreamcastluvr]

I've had mostly good experiences with the XBox OG/360 BC. Played through Panzer Dragoon Orta and GTA:SA on the 360 without a hitch, and BloodRayne 2 actually performs better on the 360 (removes the screen tear). Street Fighter III (on SF 15th Anniversary release) plays decent, but there is some glitching with the car on the bonus levels.

Don't know why MS has King of Fighters 2002/2003 on the 360 compatibility list; they are utterly unplayable.

 

[Rex_DX]

It's wonky as hell as a cursory google search will attest.

One of the only titles I ever wanted to work was Chronicles of Riddick: Butcher Bay. Amazing game for the time.

Just bite the bullet and pick up the classic system if you have the means. BC is a crapshoot.

 

[-Stranger-]

I wish Ms would make OG Xbox work on XB1 as well.

 

[Mr. Enigma]

I wish Ms would make OG Xbox work on XB1 as well.

Phil Spencer has actually mentioned that he also would like to see this too and would look into it, but Xbox 360 is clearly the priority right now.

 

[SURGEdude]

Phil Spencer has actually mentioned that he also would like to see this too and would look into it, but Xbox 360 is clearly the priority right now.

It'd be nice if the Xbox Marketplace OG games were rewrapped for XB1. Stuff like Metal Arms: Glitch in the system out to be fairly straightforward to bring over.