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Terminator Salvation. Less than 4 hours of game at $60.

Y2Kev said:
When Gears of War came out, it was such a cool, fresh experience that I thought I could play a lot more of games like it. And we saw very little come out like it for about a year or so-- then the clones started Army of Two and Dark Sector kicked it off. Now we're under constant attack by Gears of War clones-- cover systems, perspective, roady runs, etc. Something about Gears just doesn't translate well to me to so many clones-- it just feels so energy sapping. I hate gears clones...even the good ones feel lifeless.

Playing Wanted I realised how tired I am of most cover shooters. I miss the times when character movement was important and I wasn't sitting around walls 90% of the time.
 
Xater said:
Playing Wanted I realised how tired I am of most cover shooters. I miss the times when character movement was important and I wasn't sitting around walls 90% of the time.

When I play Gears 2 I find myself getting angry because I can't jump up to a platform to get a weapon. When I play Halo 3 I'm often cursing the game because it doesn't have cover for me to slide to when I'm being blown to hell.
 
_leech_ said:
Who's publishing this? I NEED NAMES!
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Totobeni said:
Grin ( the developers ) latest game "Wanted Weapn of Fate " was less than 2 hours too , no really it was , there was an achievement/trophy for beating the game in less than 2 hours .



so this is one huge improvement over 1 hour and 12 mins :lol


Meh, there's a 15 minute speedrun of Morrowind on youtube, so that doesn't really prove much of anything.

It looks like a decent rental to me, like Wanted. Or pick up the PC version in a bargin bin for 5 bucks in a couple of months.
 
Grin are hopeless. Less than 4 hours? 2 hours before that? What the fuck? Either make them longer, make them slightly longer and make it an incredible experience or have the games at a budget price of $25.
 
I see little problem with 4 hours of playtime; if it's a solid four hours of orgasmic gaming fun that I'll want to replay for the rest of my life I'm all for it... like Rez, for example. Short and awesome is quite an acceptable combination. Hour count per se doesn't say anything.

Considering that the game is a licensed game, and the previous endeavours makes this best case scenario about as likely as getting stranded on an abandoned island with a sexually desperate supermodel and her hot and open-minded sister. And a can of whipped cream. And Viagra. And an unlimited supply of delicious food.
 
ArjanN said:
Meh, there's a 15 minute speedrun of Morrowind on youtube, so that doesn't really prove much of anything.

It looks like a decent rental to me, like Wanted. Or pick up the PC version in a bargin bin for 5 bucks in a couple of months.

...it's an official achievement / Trophy for the game , from Grin itself , it's for the 1st position in "Time Attack" mode , just normal game but with a timer , which it's 1 hour and 12 mins , so they are the ones who told us that we can beat their own game under 1 hour and 12 mins ...

and believe me , I myself fucking did it under 1 hour and 12 min..

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and I completed Wanted in my first run in less than 2 hours too .

it wasn't a bad game ..but it was short as fuck
 
I'm glad the game is less than four hours. Because it's fucking awful. As short as Wanted was, at least it was a blast to play. This game is just shit, boring and generic all rolled into one.
 
Xater said:
Playing Wanted I realised how tired I am of most cover shooters. I miss the times when character movement was important and I wasn't sitting around walls 90% of the time.

I don't know if I need a deep cover system, but character movement needs to at least match what crappy old me can do in a match of paintball. Every shooter needs a slide -> cover move.
 
panda21 said:
stop badmouthing grin!

bc:rearmed? graw?

also these movie games are made by a separate grin studio than they guys doing BC

GRAW was terribad. It was a nice sentiment for Ubi to try making completely different games suited for the PC but they were shit in execution. I'd take a great casual shooter than a shit tactical one anyday.
 
Wasn't there another thread where people were defending game length of 6-10 hours? :lol

Of course, game length is one thing and the other is gameplay, but very little is said of the latter.
 
Stumpokapow said:
No joke. Totally intact illuminated Pepsi machines in the middle of rubble. Totally intact dust-free nVidia billboards jutting up over crumbled skyscrapers and ruined roads. Worst in-game advertising ever.

Wow, I'm so glad I decided not to buy Bionic Commando. This lousy Terminator game on the other hand isn't even worth renting, I can find better ways to waste four hours.
Very disappointing, GRIN.
 
I had my hopes up that Grin would learn from Wanted and make their games longer, but now that Terminator is confirmed to be really short as well I'm concerned about Bionic Commando.
 
You know, I got no problems with short games like this.

But you need to push it at a value MSRP for the consumer. Companies like this could hit on a very solid business model if they could time licensed releases with the license itself, and then marketed it across a wide spectrum of products at reasonable MSRPs that spur casual and spontaneous purchasing.

You put Terminator Salvation out the same day as the movie, do some cross promotional deals if you can, buy a time slot in the previews of the game, and put out a four hour title for $30 or so on at least two systems (preferably all of them) and if possible some direct download options. For an IP like Terminator see what you can do about having value bundles where its something like the game and the first movie, a few episodes of the series, something like that, in one retail package.

Appeal to the fans of the IP and casuals who are hyped for the IP that very instant, and you could move some real quantity, quickly, at close to full MSRP. While the MSRP would be reduced, it'd let you have consistent projections that you meet, and lead to big cash flows in fairly short windows after the release.
 
Dre said:
I had my hopes up that Grin would learn from Wanted and make their games longer, but now that Terminator is confirmed to be really short as well I'm concerned about Bionic Commando.

also as far as I know this game unlike Wanted don't have unlockables and different game modes .

I guess it's because Grin worked on too many games at once
 
Rental, for sure. Or maybe a $10 purchase.

I bought 007 Casino Royale for ten bucks at Best Buy and love it, especially at that price. I enjoy it more than KZ2. :lol
 
Greg said:
The dumbest fucking thing I've read all day.

Why is that so dumb? I think it's smart to evaluate how long you're going to play a game and think in dollar per hour terms.

I mean, the Terminator Salvation movie is going to be around 2 and half hours of entertainment for $10 or so, and the game is $60 for only 4 hours. Doesn't that seem, you know, off?
 
People would pay $80 for a 10 hour Metal Gear Solid game... why? Because it's fucking awesome and all 10 of those hours are an experience. So I don't think anyone is saying that the shorter the game is the less cost it should be. It's about what you get out of those hours if a game is short.

It's pretty obvious through the review posted on GT that this game is not going to be an amazing experience for four hours and justifies the $60 price point. Games like this should would be much better served on PSN and XBL for $20. They'd sell way more copies I would think, and do a lot of cross promotion with the movie.
 
ALeperMessiah said:
But are the achievements easy?


It's the new avatar the last airbender. I played for like 30 minutes and got 320 gamerscore. 80 per chapter, total of 9 iirc. You can get them on easy too. I'm playing on medium so I get an extra 100 at the end. It's the easiest 820 you can ever get.

At least the graphics are nice. Rental obviously
 
Agreed. The length of a game should not directly determine its value. It has much more to do with the quality of those hours. If I can walk away from a game and know that I had a fantastic experience with it, the money I spent will have been worth it. Sounds like Terminator is just a painfully average shooter that does absolutely nothing special. The fact that it is less than 4 hours long is only icing on the shit cake.
 
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