-
Hey Guest. Check out your NeoGAF Wrapped 2025 results here!
That "Expected Salary" box on applications....
- Thread starter Ultima_5
- Start date
- Status
StopMakingSense
Member
"ALL OF IT"
onadesertedisland
Member
Fill in with a möbius.
i put negotiable and have a call tomorrow with the main guy. now i need to figure out what i want lol.... was hoping to just get a number and ask for a bit more
whats your degree in
Damn... Seeing peope make 70 - 75k a year...I will be lucky to get $31k a year with a Master's degree where I live...
whats your degree in
Damn... Seeing peope make 70 - 75k a year...
My bff works for a very large state university in their overseas study program. She has people in her office who make less than half of what I make and one has a PHD.
It blows my mind that people with that kind of paper to their name will take less than what I will.
For reference, I only have technical certifications, and no formal college education.
This is roughly what I do. I typically note "No less than $$$, neg.". I want to make it clear that I won't work for less than a certain amount, to get that out of the way before they waste my time with a bunch of interviews just to offer me some lowball amount. Been through that too many times.
Speaking of degrees and pay, I've found in life that a degree isn't worth much without experience. I spent four years in college just getting through computer science, only to go into health IT. I earn more than everyone I know with masters degrees. Some of them I earn over twice as much. I could earn even more freelancing,but I like things like paid vacation days and subsidized health insurance. Just know what you're worth, work hard at what you do, try to be the smartest person in the room without being a dick, and don't settle.
-bakalhau-
Member
This question boggles my mind, messes with my brain uncontrollably, and leaves me feeling in desperation. I never know what to write, and I've never walked away from this question not feeling like I've completely fucked it up.
WHY WOULD YOU ASK THAT?
I just wanna work even if it's for the minimum pay man!
WHY WOULD YOU ASK THAT?
I just wanna work even if it's for the minimum pay man!
Escape Goat
Member
Put "Negotiable" and if they ask you tell them you would like to be paid for what you can bring to the company. If they keep asking you have to decide whether to stand your ground and risk losing the job or to give them an actual figure and risk locking yourself into a salary. I guess be sure to do your research on what other people get paid and then factor in your own skills.
BearFlexington
Member
Put exactly the amount of money you want to make and not one cent less. If the company feels it's too much money they'll make a counter offer.
StriKeVillain
Banned
Exactly. Leaving it blank is always the best option.
NCR Redslayer
NeoGAF's Vegeta
Be specific, employers like people who are sophisticated. Just writing negotiable makes them think you are a follower.
Escape Goat
Member
Negotiating is the opposite of following.
sometimes i game
Member
Depends. If you're confident and worth it, 10k more than you actually want. Then they'll negotiate down.
Empyrean Heaven
Member
I feel like most hiring managers don't like "Negotiable". It's a cop out. They asked you a specific question and you gave a wishy-washy answer, giving them a sign of how you will be as an employee. Resume, meet trash. Next!
My advice? Go online and research how much those in the position make, glassdoor.com is a great resource for this. If it's a national company then they will likely have the exact salary range for the position. If it's a smaller company, check the title of your position and see what the average salary range is across all companies.
If you're entry level, definitely ask for around the bottom level. If you're more experienced, be more in the mid-range. Unless you've got tons of experience (I'm talking 20 years +) you should never ask for the high end...most companies won't give it since your experience isn't with them, and they feel that you should pay your dues before they pay you the max salary.
My advice? Go online and research how much those in the position make, glassdoor.com is a great resource for this. If it's a national company then they will likely have the exact salary range for the position. If it's a smaller company, check the title of your position and see what the average salary range is across all companies.
If you're entry level, definitely ask for around the bottom level. If you're more experienced, be more in the mid-range. Unless you've got tons of experience (I'm talking 20 years +) you should never ask for the high end...most companies won't give it since your experience isn't with them, and they feel that you should pay your dues before they pay you the max salary.
it depends on the market around you but dont let it cloud your estimate too much. It comes down to finding that average and then putting your premium on top. just make sure you can sell the added value you are proposing.
and by "it" mean experience, a masters degree, and/or a certification.
if you are fresh out of school, go with the average market in your area, add some on top but dont be aggressive.
and by "it" mean experience, a masters degree, and/or a certification.
if you are fresh out of school, go with the average market in your area, add some on top but dont be aggressive.
Shadoken
Member
You can see what your job should pay at sites like glassdoor. I'd just fill up that amount and maybe add a little. There no such thing as too much , unless you are going way out of bounds relative to that company. Like a Junior guy asking 150k or something.
While there are probably companies that do give that , you should get an idea about your company through glassdoor.
While there are probably companies that do give that , you should get an idea about your company through glassdoor.
-Pyromaniac-
Member
Tell them you're not no bitch and you won't take anything less than than 75K + royalties
Well this thread was helpful. I think I will be doing these two from now on.
n64coder
Member
Expected salary can be helpful. You wouldn't want to waste your time interviewing at a company if they can't afford your salary requirements. If you ask below their range they won't necessarily just give you that but it might be higher than what you are asking but at the lower end of the range. If the company's offer is not market rate then you might leave them in a few years because they're are better jobs out there.
im not sure it helps but my experience is tangible on both the recruiting and applicant side.
you wont make them flinch if you are asking for 5-10k more, honestly, that is peanuts. you would be surprised of the fluctuations in salary at the same levels in experience within a firm. if you have a certain case where you need more, like you moved, student debt, kids, whatever, they won't write you off either.
be mindful that if you want to write that it is negotiable than they will lowball the shit out of you with their offer, or at the least be conservative.
you wont make them flinch if you are asking for 5-10k more, honestly, that is peanuts. you would be surprised of the fluctuations in salary at the same levels in experience within a firm. if you have a certain case where you need more, like you moved, student debt, kids, whatever, they won't write you off either.
be mindful that if you want to write that it is negotiable than they will lowball the shit out of you with their offer, or at the least be conservative.
Research based Master's degree in molecular Biology.
blame space
Banned
I've always put minimum wage.
Check out rental prices in the area and do a quick write up of your expenses. Moving from Midwest to East Coast is going to raise your cost of living a lot probably. When you figure out how much your cost of living will increase use that to increase your salary comparably. If you want to make yourself more competitive you can ask for less if you want but I say just ask for what you feel you are worth. The worst they can do is offer you less.
- Status