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The 25 Best Films of the 21st Century... So Far (New York Times)
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Androidsleeps
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Inside Out...I mean..I just don't get it. It's watchable but nothing special and way too overrated imo. No way in hell this is Pixar's best 21st century film.
I havent watched Million Dollar Baby yet but surprised to see it there. Is it actually that good?
I havent watched Million Dollar Baby yet but surprised to see it there. Is it actually that good?
Blade 2
Maybe if you're just listening to people who have been parroting RLM's obnoxious one-liners for three years. Most actual reviewers and non-reviewers seem to like the whole thing.
Androidsleeps said:
Well, I wouldn't say it's third-best-movie-of-the-century good, but when I finally saw it a couple years ago I liked it a lot more than I expected to.
itwasTuesday
He wasn't alone.
Munich is correct.
Sexually Aggressive Uncle
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List are purely subjective and all but I found it to be a little curious that the 40 Year Old Virgin was on there rather than something truly noteworthy like City of God.
But then again I haven't seen a lot of the movies that are on that list
But then again I haven't seen a lot of the movies that are on that list
I've know most of these, and have seen a little more of half of them.
There are films inclued I would never add to my top list, and offcourse there are films missing I think deserve a spot (Children of Men for instance, but also Lost in Translation, ...)
Also was taken aback by the 40 Year Old Virgin. I have never seen it, and always thought it was a typical mainstream comedy without artistic merrit.
And also²: The Boyhood hate is real huh? I found it a very original, touching film, focussing on slices of life. Though I would have exchanged it for Before Sunset in this list I think
No. Zootopia doesn't hold a candle to Inside Out and Spirited Away. It's a pretty by the books Disney movie. Good, but not a masterpiece by far. The pacing is off for instance, with a pretty boring first half. And the story isn't as half as touching as Inside Out's and Spirited Aways. Those films actually brought me to tears. Zootopia made me giggle at the most.
There are films inclued I would never add to my top list, and offcourse there are films missing I think deserve a spot (Children of Men for instance, but also Lost in Translation, ...)
Also was taken aback by the 40 Year Old Virgin. I have never seen it, and always thought it was a typical mainstream comedy without artistic merrit.
And also²: The Boyhood hate is real huh? I found it a very original, touching film, focussing on slices of life. Though I would have exchanged it for Before Sunset in this list I think
No. Zootopia doesn't hold a candle to Inside Out and Spirited Away. It's a pretty by the books Disney movie. Good, but not a masterpiece by far. The pacing is off for instance, with a pretty boring first half. And the story isn't as half as touching as Inside Out's and Spirited Aways. Those films actually brought me to tears. Zootopia made me giggle at the most.
Twig and Berries
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It's a great movie but nowhere close to the level of Spirited Away
Soapbox Killer
Grand Nagus
I expected Children of Men to be on that list. Maybe I'm overrating it.
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
Inside Out denying is a crime in some countries.
Absolutely not. And I loved Logan.
Absolutely not. And I loved Logan.
Hot Fuzz isn't beat comedy of all time. It's possibly top 7
Sebastian Suola
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The guardian had a similar list last year, but they had polled hundreds of film critics. https://www.theguardian.com/film/20...e-david-lynch-21st-century-top-films-bbc-poll
The lists do share some films. I agree with The Guardian list more though. Especially when it comes to the number one film (Mulholland Drive).
The lists do share some films. I agree with The Guardian list more though. Especially when it comes to the number one film (Mulholland Drive).
Haloid1177
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Where the fuck is Zodiac and Muholland Drive?
Sheriff_Battlesnake
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I strongly disagree, and I see one of the reasons why at #2. Tokyo Godfather is another great one. And if we step away from anime I'd personally give it to The Incredibles.
However I am glad you love Zootopia! It's a great movie that I need to watch again. Excited after seeing your passion for it.
itwasTuesday
He wasn't alone.
On the guardian list.
SpaceHorror
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There Will Be Blood at number 1, Yi Yi in the top ten, and Mad Max: Fury Road on the list. I'm ok with all that.
Some questionable choices on the list, though.
Some questionable choices on the list, though.
It's almost like
they're mostly bad movies.
7he Talon
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Look, The Avengers was fun, but it wouldn't be on any of my top lists.
Ones I've seen:
There Will Be Blood: Definitely a modern classic that will be remembered and talked about forever. Lewis' performance is gripping.
Spirited Away: One of my personal favorite films. It is overflowing with rich imagination and balances the exotic visuals with an enduring message and relateable emotions.
Million Dollar Baby: Eastwood is a brilliant director and while this film probably isn't even in his top five in terms of public opinion, it takes a somewhat boring concept (old guy trains young boxer) and takes it to very unexpected directions. It's a bolder movie than one would assume, and it's filled with amazing performances.
Yi Yi: A superb family drama akin to Ozu that captures the zeitgeist of late 90s Taipei (I assume). This film is one people should study when it comes to using the environment to tell a story.
Munich: This is a good movie about a fascinating subject... but honestly I can't say more than that. I felt like other films have done this movie's themes better. I would still recommend it.
Mad Max Fury Road: The best action movie since The Matrix. This film perfectly uses the action to tell a story instead of just inserting action scenes solely to wake up the audience (something ironically the Matrix sequels did).
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind: This is a cult favorite, but I couldn't tell you anything about the movie. I saw it in theatres and thought it was well-made but... it's exited my mind since then.
The 40 Year Old Virgin: I honestly rank this as one of the best comedies ever. Unlike many comedies, it is immensely rewatchable because the characters are likeable, or at least intriguing. It's a sex comedy that is built upon love and genuine emotion, but with a few boob jokes for good measure.
There Will Be Blood: Definitely a modern classic that will be remembered and talked about forever. Lewis' performance is gripping.
Spirited Away: One of my personal favorite films. It is overflowing with rich imagination and balances the exotic visuals with an enduring message and relateable emotions.
Million Dollar Baby: Eastwood is a brilliant director and while this film probably isn't even in his top five in terms of public opinion, it takes a somewhat boring concept (old guy trains young boxer) and takes it to very unexpected directions. It's a bolder movie than one would assume, and it's filled with amazing performances.
Yi Yi: A superb family drama akin to Ozu that captures the zeitgeist of late 90s Taipei (I assume). This film is one people should study when it comes to using the environment to tell a story.
Munich: This is a good movie about a fascinating subject... but honestly I can't say more than that. I felt like other films have done this movie's themes better. I would still recommend it.
Mad Max Fury Road: The best action movie since The Matrix. This film perfectly uses the action to tell a story instead of just inserting action scenes solely to wake up the audience (something ironically the Matrix sequels did).
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind: This is a cult favorite, but I couldn't tell you anything about the movie. I saw it in theatres and thought it was well-made but... it's exited my mind since then.
The 40 Year Old Virgin: I honestly rank this as one of the best comedies ever. Unlike many comedies, it is immensely rewatchable because the characters are likeable, or at least intriguing. It's a sex comedy that is built upon love and genuine emotion, but with a few boob jokes for good measure.
Alex_Mexico
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What? The 40 year old virgin? That list lost credibility for me the second I saw that.
7he Talon
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I'm more surprised that The Return of the King isn't on there.
What a weird list. I like Munich and Inside Out legitimately, but...really?
I will say I do love There Will Be Blood, although I don't know if I'd consider that #1 material. I'm kind of disappointed that Llewyn is their de facto Coen choice, considering the rest of their output in the last 17 years.
But it's a surprising list, and I respect that.
I will say I do love There Will Be Blood, although I don't know if I'd consider that #1 material. I'm kind of disappointed that Llewyn is their de facto Coen choice, considering the rest of their output in the last 17 years.
But it's a surprising list, and I respect that.
Fancy Clown
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Million Dollar Baby sucks
In the Mood for Love, Mulholland Drive, and Fellowship of the Ring are kinda surprising omissions, but I'll take a list of more unexpected picks.
In the Mood for Love, Mulholland Drive, and Fellowship of the Ring are kinda surprising omissions, but I'll take a list of more unexpected picks.
This is true.
Which reminds me of Heath Ledger and that in turn reminds me of Brokeback Mountain which I'm not shocked isn't on the list but it wouldn't surprise me either if it had been there for various reasons because of its impact back in 2005 or so.
chekhonte
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Strange that neither Mulholland Drive nor Inland Empire is on the list which are with out a doubt among the best films of this century.
I understand putting a Coen Bros film on the list but Llewyn Davis is not the one I'd have picked. I would have put A Serious Man well before that.
I'd also swap out Eternal Sunshine for Her
I understand putting a Coen Bros film on the list but Llewyn Davis is not the one I'd have picked. I would have put A Serious Man well before that.
I'd also swap out Eternal Sunshine for Her
You're not. It's an incredible movie.
Inferno313
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First post fail. Smh.
Fancy Clown
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Llewyn Davis is top 3 Coen bros tbh. I got no beef with that up there at all.
arts&crafts
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I was so close to being outraged as I got into the 20's with no Eternal Sunshine but then I saw it and the list was redeemed!
Inferno313
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It's my favorite film of this century so far. I adore it.
Definitely the best western animated film, though I'd give the honor to The Tale of the Princess Kaguya.
Punch Drunk over TWBB? Interesting. I think you are going to be alone fighting that fight.
Boyhood. I like it too. Don't care if it's on the list or not.
Spring Breakers. Love it. And I mean I really love this movie, but I could never dream of it being on a NYT list. I'd have to go somewhere else. Maybe like a Pitchfork list or something.
No, I'll join Lambtron's team.
I agree about Lynch but I'd say ILD is by far the best Coens film of the 21st century.
Lists like these are mostly about representing the opinions of the critics and putting out a unique take. Yes, there are some weird decisions, but that's more interesting than just putting out a generic list with all the popular choices. At least this one lets us know a little about how the NYT film critics approach film.
Martinski43
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Some very good flicks on that list. None of my favourites are on it tho. But There will be blood and Boyhood is extremely overrated by critics. Best thing about Boyhood is the 'It took 12 years to make' meme.
I haven't seen it, actually! I really need to get around to watching more animated movies outside of predominantly Western releases.