Im not sure i understand what this is exactly....they make it sound like the game isnt done.
That seems like there is no campaign yet...
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The Banner Saga Development Thread
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Im not sure i understand what this is exactly....they make it sound like the game isnt done.
That seems like there is no campaign yet...
I played and enjoyed the beta a few times within the first couple weeks. I didn't have a chance to play further when they added the option to customize your group of warriors and such. How far behind will I be? Can I catch up easily in terms of what's been added since the original beta launch?
Same. If nothing else, the game looks absolutely stunning. And my limited time with the multiplayer mode showed an impressive combat system as well.
I expect more people will figure this out when the single player campaign is released.
The free-to-play multiplayer mode has microtransactions, the single player mode doesn't. I am not sure how much the in-game store affects the multiplayer balance.
I knew about the pay store early on but it looks like it was officially announced in a project update after the Kickstarter ended. This is what they had to say:
Correct. Only the free-to-play multiplayer mode is finished. It uses assets from the single player mode and they used feedback from beta testers to tweak the combat system.
OccamsBlender
Member
I'm a backer and totally hyped for this! Unfortunately, I still need to clean up my crest. God it's a terrible piece of shyte...
inanutshell
Member
Tried out the tutorial. The battle mechanics seem fine and the art looks great, but I'm not interested in grinding out the multiplayer for renown. Will wait for the campaign to be released later this year.
VibratingDonkey
Member
Yeah...don't recall that being mentioned when I pledged. Not interested in the multiplayer, so suppose I'm not too miffed, but still, kinda shitty that.
inanutshell
Member
Yeah same here. I realize they're releasing the multiplayer component in order to have some cash flow for their company, but it feels kind of shitty to give them money to kickstart a single player campaign only for them to seemingly focus on a microtransaction filled multiplayer game.
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
I want to see single player progress myself (not that I've been looking for it) but I wouldn't say they're focusing on that. Various elements they make translate to both modes. The combat system they had nearly ready to go before the campaign, since they always planned to release the free to play multiplayer first and didn't hide that, will obviously benefit both. They can't exactly release a campaign in half finished bits and pieces, most of the mechanics will need to be in place to even give a brief demo. Travel, dialogues, choices, unit progression, whatever else. I guess they could do some of those just for the demo but I'd rather they don't waste time. The best they could do without all that stuff is a battle demo, which the multiplayer covers. Anyway, I didn't actually pledge even though I made its Kickstarter thread so maybe I'm more lenient than you...
I haven't received any update mails since I cancelled my KS account (don't even know if the two are related). I honestly forgot about this game, and the microtransactions news and MP only for now don't seem like the greatest start.
Gonna have to contact them or something to see what's up. Didn't even realize there was a beta.
Gonna have to contact them or something to see what's up. Didn't even realize there was a beta.
The tutorial scenario was a great tease for the single player campaign. I wasn't following that close the updates post-KS pledge, but I remember that they hinted at staged launch of the game from the beginning. It gave me a feeling of almost episodic releases of the game with backers entitled to the full game in the end. The micro transactions were indeed a surprise for me too but the PvP battles felt great and the systems balanced so someone could ignore completely that portion of the game and still enjoy it. I really want though to play the campaign. Hope they give us a release date soon.
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I'm glad to hear about the progress of the multiplayer. I look forward to hearing about the single player content (which is the main reason I backed this project).
inanutshell
Member
You should try making an account on the developer's forum at stoicstudio. The access to the beta is tied to the email address you used for the kickstarter. Your forum name will be green if it recognizes you. You'll probably have to make an account there eventually in order to get access to the single player campaign when that comes out.
Will do then. Thanks for the tip.
inanutshell
Member
Register on their forums at stoicstudio.com with the email address tied to your kickstarter account. Then click on the link in the validation email they'll send you. After that they will send you a steam code for the multiplayer. I got mine in a couple of hours but I think they generate keys manually so your results may differ.
Most of the assets in the MP mode translate directly into the single player campaign. The beta was also useful for nailing down the combat mechanics. See this post for a big update on the campaign: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/stoic/the-banner-saga/posts/396284
Beautifully Shaped Monsters
Member
They are receiving quite a bit of bad feedback over this in the Kickstarter comments.
Personally I don't have a huge problem with the multiplayer component being released first and the game being heavily delayed, however the micro transactions and the lack of multiplayer for the stretch goal platforms is pretty shitty in my opinion.
Personally I don't have a huge problem with the multiplayer component being released first and the game being heavily delayed, however the micro transactions and the lack of multiplayer for the stretch goal platforms is pretty shitty in my opinion.
I'm not sure how I feel about it. Apparently they did mention a standalone multiplayer in the original kickstarter campaign. But it does feel just slightly concerning that the SP game has been delayed. Though, Factions is basically the core combat system. So, it's a part of the progress toward the SP game. Yea, not sure how to feel.
As long as the single player is good and you dont get any gameplay advantages with microtransactions I really don't care.
Id rather they make sure the game is good before they release it than try to get it out as fast as possible to please impatient people. I don't have an issue with micro transactions for this game as well considering that the developers have stated that none of them have been taking a salary. All of the funds have been going into the game. That's pretty crazy if you ask me.
Ive played the beta some. And while its definitely fun, I think i'll need the single player to actually hook me into it since that hopefully will supply the meaning and context. Right now, I just hop on occasionally when I want some nice strat game
But it does, doesn't it? I mean, you can buy renown (or whatever they call it) with money, and that allows you to improve your roster with more experienced units off the bat. I admit I just checked the tutorials and looked at the marketplace for some minutes, but that is what it looked to me you were buying (other than cosmetics).
Thought they said they were going to change it. And you are always set up against a person with the same or similar renown so you really can't crush someone with stats since the matching system doesnt allow it
GhostRidah
Member
Game was just released on steam, maybe someone should make a thread for it.
cheststrongwell
my cake, fuck off
Just played a bit of this on steam. Graphics are amazing! Reminds me of The Last Unicorn and Bakshi stuff. Can't wait for SP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtfP0FeEN0I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtfP0FeEN0I
Sentenza
Member
Honestly I wish they didn't go for Adobe Flash/Air or whatever they are using.
Everything feels sort of slow, sluggish.
Also, going for few more animation frames could have helped a lot to improve the general feeling.
But yeah, the general art direction is very, very good.
Beautifully Shaped Monsters
Member
Adobe/Air?
Really?
Geez, I know there might have been reasons for that decision, but I have a hard time imagining what they could be...
Really?
Geez, I know there might have been reasons for that decision, but I have a hard time imagining what they could be...
cheststrongwell
my cake, fuck off
I think it looks great. Is a bit slow though.
Sentenza
Member
Yep, I just checked just to be sure and in fact it's based on Adobe Air.
Messofanego
Banned
I wish I had backed this, but will absolutely get it when the full game comes out.
Messofanego
Banned
Played the tutorial, seems like it could go intense. I've never played these kind of strategy RPGs and especially never multiplayer.
First battle got disconnected.
Who wants to fight me?
Steam: digi_matrix
First battle got disconnected.
Who wants to fight me?
Steam: digi_matrix
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Man I really want to like this but the servers are terrible. Understandable on the first day with the sudden rush but I just got droped from a game two minutes ago
SpacePirate Ridley
Member
The tribute art to Eyvind Earle (the background artist of Sleeping Beauty) is just mastefull.
The art is just AMAZING. Im sad I didnt back it at the time.
The art is just AMAZING. Im sad I didnt back it at the time.
Messofanego
Banned
No wonder I love the art style so much. One of my favorite animated films as a kid.
Messofanego
Banned
Played a game with my friend, that also eventually got disconnected and then you pretty much have to Alt+F4. Will play on a more stable time.
30 second timer is too short, accidentally clicked that and it's clearly for more experienced players. It feels like battle chess, don't want to go too forward. Archers can be brutal against Shieldbangers. Quite a bit of maths to memorise for each of your dudes vs the enemies' numbers.
30 second timer is too short, accidentally clicked that and it's clearly for more experienced players. It feels like battle chess, don't want to go too forward. Archers can be brutal against Shieldbangers. Quite a bit of maths to memorise for each of your dudes vs the enemies' numbers.
Baron_Calamity
Member
Fairly disappointed in this project. The single player has become an after thought and they are hoping for freeium cash to start rolling in so they can make it.
That DOES sound awesome. Just played King of Dragon Pass for the first time a couple of weeks back. What an amazing (and strange) game!
Messofanego
Banned
I know that feel, man.
How are you guys getting games without disconnecting, lol?
I want to play with you guys.
The first time I started the game it wouldn't even let me past the load screen because of server errors. When I tried it again after a few hours everything was completely fine and there were no problems during the match.
I guess their servers just have trouble handling the launch.
so is anyone else currently playing Factions? I have spend about 20 hours with the game now, doing quite well but something pisses me off to the point of not wanting to play anymore. I run a rather offense-oriented team, and in 90% of the games I have to be the one who attacks because my opponent builds up his nice little defense line and then absolutely refuses to fucking move. And guess what? The attacker always has the fucking disadvantage! And there's nothing in the game that disencourages fucking turteling. And I'm getting really tired of running into a wall of defenders because otherwise nothing will happen! Granted, most of the time I win anyway but it's not even close to a fair and even match. And everytime the fire map comes up, I want to shoot myself in the head.
someone should do a Faction thread
someone should do a Faction thread
Played three matches and I'm two for one right now. I would have probably won my first match too if I didn't ran out of time twice. I either managed to misclick several times in a row or some of those clicks just didn't register properly.
Aaaanyhow, this seems like a neat little strategy game. Do we have a GAF Steam group going for this right now? Or just add me on Steam (Steam ID: asmodejan) for some friendly matches.
I feel good about my Kickstarter pledge, can't wait for the singleplayer campaign. Oh and like several others have already mentioned, Factions definitely deserves it's own OT.
Aaaanyhow, this seems like a neat little strategy game. Do we have a GAF Steam group going for this right now? Or just add me on Steam (Steam ID: asmodejan) for some friendly matches.
I feel good about my Kickstarter pledge, can't wait for the singleplayer campaign. Oh and like several others have already mentioned, Factions definitely deserves it's own OT.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
I don't really think that they'll be getting TF2 levels of revenue right off the bat.
Just me, though.