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The Brave (Not So) New World of Webcam Porn

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I like cam girls. Some get desperate and make those 1 dollar Gold shows that last 10 minutes.

It's like a sex kickstarter, girls puts a goal of 100 bucks or something and puts a timer of 10 minutes. Once the goal is done you get into the show, with biggest tipper getting their name shouted or telling her what to do etc... Is fun. It's a bit more personal as you have some kind of input since you can tell them what to do, but impersonal enough so that you don't feel like you are with a hooker.

Also if you are cheap you can haggle with them.

Edit: I remember GAF making a couple of those girls cry when I was lurking. I'm still ashamed of how much of an asshole people can be.
 

.GqueB.

Banned
I'm friends with a cam girl. I don't go to her chat rooms but we chat over Skype sometimes and she's really interesting.

She has this amazon wish list link on her twitter page that dudes are always buying her stuff from. Beds and dining tables. All kinds of shit. And that's OUTSIDE of the chat room. Some dudes just have the money and get bored. A lot of these guys have girlfriends and wives. Sometimes it's not about the guy being lonely or pathetic.

Though the story about the dude dropping 20k is crazy. When i first met her I used to go to her page and a few others as well. I spent like 8 dollars over the course if a week and felt like I'd spent to much.
 

MThanded

I Was There! Official L Receiver 2/12/2016
I think a lot of the insane tippers are insanely rich foreigners from what little I've seen. Maybe oil money or some shit so tipping 500 is nothing.
I assume that some of the higher tippers are using stolen CCs to get tokens.
 

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Banned
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IHaveIce

Banned
A friend of mine did cam shows for a while and she openly said to me "It is amazing how much money you can get from some losers who just want to talk."

She made like thousands of euros, paid a new car, got lots of stuff through amazon and nowadays she works like a 'normal' person.
 
Hell, i have seen one cam model in particular who didn't even strip or do anything lewd and guys we're just throwing money at her and still do i believe. Gotta give props to that woman for realizing that all she had to do was tease them one in a while and they would just tip and tip and tip, smart woman to take advantage of these people.

Meh, it's not like they don't know what they are paying for.
 
NYT said:
Models like Lacey think of themselves as digital geishas, therapists, consorts, virtual performance artists. Unlike traditional pornography, or even old-school peep shows, the cam medium titillates with the promise of virtual friendship.

“They’re defining a new kind of intimacy,” said Viviana Zelizer, a Princeton sociologist and author of “The Purchase of Intimacy,” about the interplay between economics and relationships. It’s not traditional sex work, not a relationship, but “something in between.”

This all sounds a hell of a lot like Japanese hostess/host clubs. You go to a hostess club and the hostesses act like they're your girlfriend in order to give you companionship that you're unable to get otherwise. They get you emotionally invested so that you'll buy the girls expensive drinks. They don't have sex with customers, but they're virtually girlfriends otherwise.

There's a great documentary about it called The Great Happiness Space: http://www.thegreathappinessspace.com/ It's streaming on Netflix.
 

R0GX

Member
It wouldn't surprise me to find out that some of these huge tippers aren't real customers but plants to drive more tips. It plays off the competitive psychology of these guys who are seeking the attention of the model. They all want to be the #1 guy, or the guy, and that competitiveness I think pushes these guys to tip more than they would otherwise.
 
It wouldn't surprise me to find out that some of these huge tippers aren't real customers but plants to drive more tips. It plays off the competitive psychology of these guys who are seeking the attention of the model. They all want to be the #1 guy, or the guy, and that competitiveness I think pushes these guys to tip more than they would otherwise.

Nah some people really give this girls big tips, it's like a strip club. There's also the case of people that gets sucked into a long private show because the girl wants to "talk". I only went to a private show once and a girl tried to pull that on me, but since you can you close the Window without saying anything, it's only your fault if you end up paying 80 dollars for half a hour talk with a naked lady.
 
My friend does this.

My other friend, who has sex with her, goes on there and gives her money.

...yeah I don't get it.

But he's the best dood, so don't hate yo
 
Pretty good article. Read it fully.

Sex sells news at 11.

I also like the term the journalist threw: "digital geishas". Sounds about right. I get a feeling the hostess and host culture in japan, strip clubs and to a lesser degree the escort business in general is getting threatend by this age of digilization. Cam hosts can cater the same intimacy directly by webcaming.

Quite honestly I percieve such women as being smart business(wo)men. They sell the privilege to see their naked skin, strictly on their personal demands: No sexual contact with the client.

Basically the litteral meaning of "you can look, but you can't touch".

It wouldn't surprise me to find out that some of these huge tippers aren't real customers but plants to drive more tips. It plays off the competitive psychology of these guys who are seeking the attention of the model. They all want to be the #1 guy, or the guy, and that competitiveness I think pushes these guys to tip more than they would otherwise.

Heh, sounds like the same technique used by organised pickpocket thieves on the streets.

My God. They're emotional succubi!

Are you really that surprised...?

Gotta make those regular customers somehow.

I think a lot of the insane tippers are insanely rich foreigners from what little I've seen. Maybe oil money or some shit so tipping 500 is nothing.

Somewhere, right now as we speak, there's a sheik in the UAE tipping 1000s of bucks on a cam model.
 

IISANDERII

Member
This must be emotional, otherwise why wouldn't you just head on down to your local strip club and get a handjob for $80?
 

TxdoHawk

Member
Arabian princes, hah. GAF vastly underestimates how many dumb, horny men with too much spending money from their overpaid jobs and a need for fulfillment still exist in the US.
 

Iadien

Guarantee I'm going to screw up this post? Yeah.
This must be emotional, otherwise why wouldn't you just head on down to your local strip club and get a handjob for $80?

It is, all it takes is a few emotionally attached people with a decent income and girls will make quite a bit of money. 20k+ a month for the top models. One girl mentioned that she has never been above top 800 at the end of the month and still averages $1,700 a month.
 

The Technomancer

card-carrying scientician
This all sounds a hell of a lot like Japanese hostess/host clubs. You go to a hostess club and the hostesses act like they're your girlfriend in order to give you companionship that you're unable to get otherwise. They get you emotionally invested so that you'll buy the girls expensive drinks. They don't have sex with customers, but they're virtually girlfriends otherwise.

There's a great documentary about it called The Great Happiness Space: http://www.thegreathappinessspace.com/ It's streaming on Netflix.

I just...don't understand this stuff. I mean, I get how it could feel good in the moment, but after leaving the drop from the high would absolutely crush me.
 

DY_nasty

NeoGAF's official "was this shooting justified" consultant
The biggest misconception about this is that these are very well-off, rich Americans or absurdly wealthy foreigners.

This is not true. Those people have always existed - and because of the power of money that they know they have, they are the ones that treat porn movies like straight up catalogs. There was an JAV performer a while back by the name of Marina (yes, that was her screen name. lol finding that amirite) who fit this scenario perfectly. After 5 outstanding films, she left porn completely because some rich guy decided that he wanted her completely. Some would say that she's a sellout, tramp, etc but lets be real... what would be YOUR price when it comes to moving 10 steps up on the lifestyle ladder, sleeping with someone who's not even at all that bad-looking or insufferable, and getting paid stupid money on top of that? Then triple it.

The difference between the super high roller approach and the everyday Joe is that everyday Joes will never demand that kind of time. That allows performers to basically farm them and pick their own clients to their specific needs and not the other way around.
 
Simp king

You spent 20,000 on a cam model.
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I just...don't understand this stuff. I mean, I get how it could feel good in the moment, but after leaving the drop from the high would absolutely crush me.

Hence why such people keep coming back. They get emotionally dependent, invested - or even addicted - to the pseudo-relationship.

Shit like that ain't pretty.
 

DY_nasty

NeoGAF's official "was this shooting justified" consultant
i'll just wait until someguy uploads their vids on tube sites.

That's the thing. It can't even be copied. Most are average strippers/teases at best.

The ones who end up on a tubesite are doing it wrong most of the time.
 
I've watched cam porn on occasion but its hard get off to it when seeing all the cringeworthy stuff in the chat box. It just became more of a psychological observation for the people tipping hundreds of dollars at a time just to get a girl to say their screen name or buying shit off an amazon wishlist. Digital simping.
 
What's the story behind this!?

It was years ago so I don't remember it perfectly. But some guy made a topic because a girl on cam appeared to be OD. Turns out she was just taking a nap and he jump wild to assumptions, either way it introduced GAF to the world of cam girls, some people though it was funny to just make accounts into the places just to insult the workers. A lot of them just gang into the forums calling them whores and stuff, shaming them. One of them just bursts into tears.
 

Pastry

Banned
It was years ago so I don't remember it perfectly. But some guy made a topic because a girl on cam appeared to be OD. Turns out she was just taking a nap and he jump wild to assumptions, either way it introduced GAF to the world of cam girls, some people though it was funny to just make accounts into the places just to insult the workers. A lot of them just gang into the forums calling them whores and stuff, shaming them. One of them just bursts into tears.

Wasn't this after they convinced her to put a shoe on her head or something like that?
 
Wasn't this after they convinced her to put a shoe on her head or something like that?

Yes but I don't know if she was the same girl. I know they made at least two ladies cry. It was terrible, I still feel bad and I wasn't even part of GAF at the time. I met a girl in one of those sites and she was a very sweet lady that had just too much time without being able to find a job and no college education, if I was a girl I'll probably be doing that right now as I'm currently eating whatever my neighbors give me.
 

Elija2

Member
The cam girls aren't obligated to do what the tippers ask them to do, are they? If I were rich I'd go on cam sites and ask girls to do horrific stuff in exchange for a massive tip to see how desperate they are.
 
The cam girls aren't obligated to do what the tippers ask them to do, are they? If I were rich I'd go on cam sites and ask girls to do horrific stuff in exchange for a massive tip to see how desperate they are.

Not a all, they can also kick you out if you are being a creep. Some even have it on their profile. Like for example.

Winterfany
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African Asian
No anal, no DP, no shoe on head.
 

.GqueB.

Banned
have you ever met her in real life?

Nah. She used to live across the country but she recently moved to Philly (I'm in NY). We'll see what happens there. She asked me in the past to get on cam to do a threesome with her and her husband. We'll see...

weeee'll seeeeeee *rubs beard*
 

Elija2

Member
Some sites do not allow certain acts, in fact can ban the model and user at will(most the time the chat will close as the model is being slapped on the wrist).

That's kinda weird. There's probably lots of money to be made from rich dudes with weird fetishes.
 
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