Tasteful nudes is a thing, so uh maybe?
Plus Art is expression and displaying sexuality is the oldest form of expression there is.
I know you're kidding btw
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The "Celebrity Nude Leak" Potentially Had Child Porn
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Plus Art is expression and displaying sexuality is the oldest form of expression there is.
I know you're kidding btw
Uhh when I was in high school the girls in my class aged from 15 to 17 mostly had boyfriends who were 20 or older which is something perfectly normal where I come from (except that I always found it strange haha)
But whatever, different cultures and such.
Deaf Spacker
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It was how up front he was that weirded me out, I had a 16 year old girlfriend when I was 21, looking back on it I wonder what the hell I was thinking.
You do realise a lot of happily married older generation couples started like that.
My grandpa and gran were that in age difference when they started together then got married after the war when she was 20/21
QuiteWhittle
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That news to me. Even countries with liberal age of consent like France criminalizes prostituion and pornography of children under 18 or so I thought.
Surely you are speaking of the differences between possession, distribution, and the creation of child pornography? I can't think of a single developed country where the actual creation of CP, including those with individuals just under the age of consent, is unambiguously legal. May I have an example?
Winter John
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I worked with a 39 yr old chef who started dating a 15 yr old and got her pregnant. He lost all his friends, his family weren't too happy and his neighbours stopped speaking to him. We asked him what the fuck he was on, but it was no good. We got the usual nonsense older guys spout about how she was really mature for her age and they were in love. They ended up getting married when she was 17, split up a year later.
Deaf Spacker
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Yeah I realise that, maybe it was more acceptable generations ago? I know someone who's married to a 46 year old and she's 24. Okay that's quite extreme but best of luck to them.
No more grosser than sealing juvenile criminal records once they become sufficiently older.
If you feel this way please tell any adult friends you have so they can warn their 14 year olds to stay away from you in less than public situation.
14 and 16 are quite different.
SmokedMeat
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You think they're an adult?
kurisu_1974
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You think nude pics are pornographic?
BeforeU
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that would be tens of millions of people. Even with the international resources they can't get on this lol
Yes they are, wtf
Wiktor
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Poland is an example. What's prohibited is creation and possession of pornography with children under age o 15. That will be raised in the future (the law is getting passed through parliment's senate right now), but not yet.
That said, even if such law is applied you would find it pretty much impossible to pressecute somebody for seeing pics of 17 years old in this event in European countries. Because not only there's no guilt there (they didn't know she was underaged during taking the picture), but also most continental european countries have the system when solely breaking the law doesn't make it a crime. It needs to have strong enough charge of social damage. If it doesn't it's not a crime and it won't be prossecuted. A case of somebody seeing a pic of naked17 years old would definitely not qualify for this. The one taking and distributin those pics - different matter.
Wiktor
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Ughh...no? Wtf? Women's breasts are shown on daytime tv in Europe and are often seen in advertisements. Just seeing naked parts of human body doesn't qualify it as pornography.
kurisu_1974
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Then I guess we'll never agree.
triplestation
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Half ur age minus 7
Because before it was totaly ok to look at people nude who did not consent for you to see them ?
Something being morally okay or not doesn't necessarily have something to do with it being legal or not.
Legally? Yes.
It's called child pornography not not-adult pornography.
In Germany the legal age to have sex - believe it or not - is 14. That is, both have to be 14 and it has to be consensual sex.
Btw, the statistical average age of people having sex for the first time in Germany is 16.
What is considered "child pornography" is definitely not the same everywhere in the world.
xDUMPWEEDx
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You misunderstood what I said.
I wasn't implying anyone is a pedophile. Each state/territory/country has their own law. There absolutely is consensus within each particular area.
It's either illegal for you or isn't, depending on where you live. If you live in an area where it's 18, then 17 is illegal.
Again, I have no idea what you are talking about.
Winterfang
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Not surprisingly she looked pretty young... I heard.
But doesn't american law matter in this case, since Maroney is american?
Diprosalic
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Creepy.
andthebeatgoeson
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What do you know? The English used to publish topless 16 girls. The more you know.
Prophet Steve
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But the age of majority is not what is relevant to this, nor does it correspond with what the lawmakers think to be boundary of when people stop physically and mentally being children. It is just the legal boundary, and they are aware of that.
To make a judgement like that on law seems to me like a silly thing to do anyway. Everyone matures at a different point and you can't see a difference between a slightly more mature 17-year old and a slightly less mature 18-year old. Implicating that someone has signs of being a pedophile just because the local law says so is a very easy way to look at the world, but it is also a very shortsighted one.
If that is the way you want to look at the world that is fine, but you cannot make that view based solely on a law. Laws should be based on moral standpoints and not the opposite, while that is the argument a lot of people are making here.
The picture heavily implies so to me. Or at least a sex predator.
Although in this case it is just someone who differentiates between young children and what is legally considered to be a child.
This right here. I'd even say 16. Not at all my tastes to be sure but to be saying the punishment should be the same whether fully developed teens or prepubescent children is crazy. One is an arbitrary legal number that isn't even the same state to state or country to country. The other is just fucking sick.
Uno Venova
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I didn't know people were so oblivious to 16 and 17 years-olds dating and fucking out of their age range and nothing being weird about it.
Canada changed the age of consent from 14 to 16 in 2008 apparently,
There's also a close-in-age clause that states partners have to be within 5 years of 14-15 year olds.
I know this isn't the topic or legal concern being mentioned directly but I decided to google this based on discussion of USA vs. UK etc. and found it interesting. I had no idea what it was, people don't make much of a fuss about it here unless it's a really old dude being creepy.
Edit: Also interesting is that the age of consent was raised because of an American who took advantage of it. The Dale Beckham case. Now that dude was creepy.
There's also a close-in-age clause that states partners have to be within 5 years of 14-15 year olds.
I know this isn't the topic or legal concern being mentioned directly but I decided to google this based on discussion of USA vs. UK etc. and found it interesting. I had no idea what it was, people don't make much of a fuss about it here unless it's a really old dude being creepy.
Edit: Also interesting is that the age of consent was raised because of an American who took advantage of it. The Dale Beckham case. Now that dude was creepy.
SquiddyCracker
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Does this mean McKayla will be charged for the creation and possession of child porn?
Varies between countries. They should change the law so that anyone below 40 years old is considered as underage.
Then all the hell will break loose.
Arjen
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Child porn sounds somewhat heavy for naked pics of an 17 year old.
17 year and 364 days old, child porn
18 years, carry on.
If you put these pics in the same realm as porn with "actual' children, i feel there's something going wrong.
And, shit maybe it's just me, but i can't tell the difference between the body of a 17 year old and an 18 or 19 year old. Maybe i saw some 17 year olds topless on the beach this year and i'm suddenly a perv.
17 year and 364 days old, child porn
18 years, carry on.
If you put these pics in the same realm as porn with "actual' children, i feel there's something going wrong.
And, shit maybe it's just me, but i can't tell the difference between the body of a 17 year old and an 18 or 19 year old. Maybe i saw some 17 year olds topless on the beach this year and i'm suddenly a perv.
Chubby Rain
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And surely the person she sent it to before it leaked, also needs to be prosecuted for possession of child porn
SquiddyCracker
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If she initially sent it, then she need to be charged with the distribution of child porn as well.
I'm waiting for her lawyers to bring this matter up.
I'm 28 and I agree, but I still think 21 is as young as i'd go.
xDUMPWEEDx
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If it's legal, then by all means go right ahead.
The problem with most people in this thread is the opinion "well people in other countries can get away with it, I should too" mentality. If it's 18 in your country, then 17 is illegal. If it's 16, then you are good to go.
There is no legal grey area here. It doesn't matter what the age is in other countries, the only one that matters is the one you are currently in, whether you disagree or not.
The subreddit alone has 143,413 subscribers
Paedophiles aren't interested in 17 year olds.
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