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"The Conners" flops.
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Grinchy
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I tried watching the first episode and it's just not good. It wasn't really that good last season either, though. The timing is just so off and they give so much screen time to the terrible actors like the woman who plays Becky.
The jokes remind me a little bit of 30 Rock where they're overproduced and the actors just read them quickly and loudly without any proper inflection or reaction. It's just a mess.
The jokes remind me a little bit of 30 Rock where they're overproduced and the actors just read them quickly and loudly without any proper inflection or reaction. It's just a mess.
BANGS
Banned
Ditto...
off duty ninja
Member
I felt bad for the rest of the cast until in listened to the Rogan podcast with her on it. Sure she is batshit crazy but the show was based on HER LIFE. To force her out and then get her to sign over the rights was just disgusting to me. Also, most of the cast members were all for stealing her IP and keeping it for themselves. They got what they deserve with the flop.
They didn't lose their jobs because if a stupid tweet. They (would have and probably will now) lost their jobs because we live in a ridiculous, reactionary climate of fear that caused some executives to make one of the dumbest mistakes in the history of television.
Roseanne was the one who signed over her rights to the show so her cowardly, back stabbing co-workers cold continue on without her. This is on all of them, not Roseanne.
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Hoya Destroyer
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I expected the show would lose a lot of quality without Rosanne, but I guess I feel sorry for some of the actors too. Not only will they lose money from the new series, but if the old one isnt shown as much around the world (re-runs of old Rosanne were playing here in Australia before the Twitter drama, but not after), I assume they'll lose from that too.
mango drank
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Was the 2017 reboot even all that good in the first place? I think I watched about 10 mins of the first episode, and it was way too shrill and political, I bailed out. The original 90s series was great, at least until season 6 or so. It was charming, the cast had great chemistry, it felt genuine, and the characters had just the right amount of crazy for them to come across as funny and human, vs batshit insane. The reboot (what little I saw of it) seemed like generic cookie-cutter ABC shovelware, with the faces of the old characters painted on.
Veering a little off-topic, but ... I just realized a lot of the old great sitcoms have a sense of timelessness about them, and that's partly because they're focused on their own internal worlds and characters, less focused on petty commentary / squabbles about then-current-day events. Did the names Bush or Clinton ever get mentioned even once on Seinfeld, Married with Children, Frasier, Friends, Fresh Prince, etc? A lot of these shows will still be in reruns on TV or streaming in 20 years. Fat chance Roseanne 2017 will be popular in 20 years. (Not that good shows can't deal with contemporary politics, but it's interesting to think about.)
Veering a little off-topic, but ... I just realized a lot of the old great sitcoms have a sense of timelessness about them, and that's partly because they're focused on their own internal worlds and characters, less focused on petty commentary / squabbles about then-current-day events. Did the names Bush or Clinton ever get mentioned even once on Seinfeld, Married with Children, Frasier, Friends, Fresh Prince, etc? A lot of these shows will still be in reruns on TV or streaming in 20 years. Fat chance Roseanne 2017 will be popular in 20 years. (Not that good shows can't deal with contemporary politics, but it's interesting to think about.)
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Agent_Carnage
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Roseanne is one of my favorite shows of all time. Having a show without her just feels hollow.
Grinchy
Banned
It would be like doing a Frasier revival without Kelsey Grammer just because he's an alcoholic who likes to wear women's underwear. Who wants to watch Niles and Daphne be the stars of the show? No one. Just like absolutely zero people want a Roseanne show starring Becky and Darlene.
Dthomp
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I think the overuse of Becky is a major problem with the reboot. I enjoyed the reboot of Roseanne and I don't mind the Connors at all (I am a huge fan of John Goodman). I think the show focused on him and Darlene with getting their lives on track with all the other characters being in the background. I find the Becky character awful, and gets way to much screentime in the new show
NiiloPielinen
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Hadn't she been spouting various conspiracy theories about 911 and vaccines for years? I was amazed they even did the show knowing that. And do you really think that this would have been a one time relapse only? Studio smelled the possibility of continuous pr disaster and decided to act now.
No one is watching Roseann for instructions on who to vote formayor or dog catcher. it's about having characters that isn't always 100% predictable.
I don't understand how you can't see the appeal of character that is actually unique compared to the dozens, and dozens of other shows that re use the same template over and over again.
LegendOfKage
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After they killed off Roseanne, they made Dan a Trump supporter?
BANGS
Banned
Most of the supporting cast is pretty unique in sitcom land, Rosey wasn't the only unpredictable character...
No, Dan has just always been a very conservative character...
SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
Even though this user won't be coming back.
This is a clear example of context only being important when it suits an agenda.