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The Crow is being remade: Brandon Lee officially rolls in grave
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TheKaeptain
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That's the biggest dick I have ever seen.John Dunbar said:
Duane Cunningham
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I think those of us who were in high school or middle school at the time and listened to the soundtrack and were having our formative years in the early 90's, generally speaking, probably aren't going to be able to convey what's so offensive about the idea of doing a shitty remake. Yes, by purely objective standards, it's no masterpiece, I don't know what to tell you. The original Crow is a tough movie to look at objectively.
It was well received critically at the time by adults, too.Count Dookkake said:
As for myself...
I watched it first when I was 10, as the final film of a Bruce Lee film and documentary marathon on Channel 4. A film like The Crow does incredible things to a ten year old, especially when you know the lead died. Makes them see things differently. Has a profound impact on how they develop in regards to artistic taste and imagination.
I mean, shit, the story of The Crow is an artist rising from the grave because of unfinished business. True enough, Brandon Lee rose from the grave because he had unfinished business - he wanted to be in one film that was for him, rather than being cast in an action role because of his father. Again, to a young mind, that idea is like being hit by a freight train.
I didn't watch it a second time until a month and a half ago.
It is still good. It isn't perfect, nor is it a Great, but it is good. Well shot, some good acting, competent script, incredible soundtrack. A real B/B+, pushed over subjectively into an A- due to the IRL history of the thing.
That said, there is nothing sinful about a remake, so long as that remake does both:
1 - Is as good as or (preferably) better than the original.
2 - The remake offers a different interpretation and take, so that the two can stand side-by-side as complementary pieces.
In the case of The Crow, I fear 2000's sensibilities makes #1 extremely difficult, but #2 is easier due to the original film not sticking amazingly close to the original comic.
I say there's room for a remake attempt here. Let them.
This is perhaps the most truthful statement ever made about a film on GAF. I wouldn't agree with your other statement about the remake being offensive, though.Duane Cunningham said:
Count Dookkake
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Duane Cunningham said:
I was in high school when this movie came out.
A remake is in no way offensive.
Simon Belmont
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The problem with a remake like this is that for a lot of people, the movie has become idealized beyond (what I think is) the scope of the source material. I can say for me both the movie and the soundtrack represent a period in my early life, and as such I'd have a much harder time connecting to any sort of refresh. If the remake isn't directed at fans of the original, who's going to go see it then?
Duane Cunningham
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Count Dookkake said:
Well... you were probably cooler than me. My dumb stoner friends and I were listening to Nirvana and Mudhoney, wearing purple plaid and thinking we were really edgy. We were just dumb teenagers spending our money on stuff that was being marketed toward us, but we didn't know it at the time. If you guys were smart enough not to fall for it, great.
Mr. B Natural
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Not interested because it's not a particularly interesting enough premise to warrant a remake and because I'm sick of sequels and remakes period. I don't really care whether an actor died during the making of the first one. Not sure why I should. Weird lines are drawn when talking about nostalgia I guess.
TheKaeptain
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The amount of people in this thread that love The Crow is astonishing.
StormyTheRabbit
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I thought this was well known for like...a while.
JUST CHECK THE FUCKING "PROP" GUNS THIS TIME AROUND.
JUST CHECK THE FUCKING "PROP" GUNS THIS TIME AROUND.
Simon Belmont
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Mohonky said:
What? Fuck no, I posted it because it's awesome.
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WHAT A REBOOT.
polyh3dron
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I was around 13 when this was out in theaters, saw it on VHS because I was too young for the theater. It was one of my favorite flicks back in the day too, didn't know shit about it being for fat goth girls or whatever.
TheKaeptain
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Then you went to high school right?polyh3dron said:
Angry Fork
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So what happens when they remake all the main stuff that can be exploited? Are they going to then remake the remakes? I dread the day they remake Back to the future. I'm not against remakes all together but don't do it to films that don't need it.
Count Dookkake
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CaptYamato said:
Yeah, I am quite surprised.
polyh3dron
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Pretty much everyone I knew in high school liked The Crow, and my high school didn't have a whole shitload of "goth" people. It pretty much cut across demographics.CaptYamato said:
Genesis Knight
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Count Dookkake said:
Quite a cult favorite to this day. As for me I thought the original wasn't that great, and although it may upset others it seems to be a better candidate for a reboot than other recent films.
TheKaeptain
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Count Dookkake said:
At first I thought it was just the knee-jerk reaction of how unoriginal Hollywood is. However, these guys are acting like hollywood just kicked their dogs.
Count Dookkake
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Suairyu said:
It wasn't that well received. It's like the Daredevil of its time. Acceptable, not terrible.
Count Dookkake
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Suairyu said:
Very close.
Duane Cunningham
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They should remake Rocky Horror Picture Show, too. It had a pretty shitty budget, and just think, it could have Megan Fox in it now.
Suairyu said:
I can think of dozens of movies that were "well-received" that nobody would care if remake plans were announced. I think it's surprising to see this movie treated as if it's Citizen Kane rather than what it really is -- competent, entertaining fodder for the Hot Topic crowd.
Even the creator seems to have little respect for the franchise, given how massively whored out it was. I suspect that James O'Barr is out of money again, and that's why we're seeing the revival discussed once more.
Simon Belmont
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Count Dookkake said:
Solid argument.
Count Dookkake
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Duane Cunningham said:
This is happening.
No toe-thumbs, though.
Simon Belmont said:
You should say the same to the post to which I was responding.
Is it really? It seems that it was pretty well received by critics at the time, if not for acting, then definitely for the visual style.CaptYamato said:
I finally saw it in its entirety the other day on TV and loved it. A lot of people have told me they loved it. It's not really a rare thing.
Stealth Editor
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Shia Laboeuf as Rocky!Duane Cunningham said:
Duane Cunningham said:
Given its roots in the theatre, nobody would care that much about a Rocky Horror remake. Or at the very least there wouldn't be this stupid pretense that the original is a completely untouchable classic. Rocky Horror is essentially "remade" on a weekly basis by shadow casts, and less frequently by the stage productions that completely change up the set and costume design.
Simon Belmont
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Count Dookkake said:
You made the claim that it was comparable to Daredevil at the time of it's release, since you made the claim you should provide some sort of evidence or argument to back that up. Shouldn't be too hard right? Just go to Rotten Tomatoes or metacritic to see what people were saying about each movie when they came out. Don't worry, we'll wait.
Duane Cunningham
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Count Dookkake said:
Oh my god, I just looked it up. No kidding, instead of the Megan Fox joke, I almost said "the people from Glee could make it"... and that's exactly what's happening.
I don't know what to say. Screw it, remake Romper Stomper and Sid and Nancy while we're at it, too.
Simon Belmont
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They did remake Romperstomper - it was much better and called American History X.
Count Dookkake
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Simon Belmont said:
Does RT have a way to filter out non-contemporary reviews?
It seems that every film gets better reviews as time goes on.
Anyway, The Crow is mediocre.
I am glad the remake is happening.
Simon Belmont
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Count Dookkake said:
Filter for 'Top Critics', they'd be unlikely to review a movie post release.
I wouldn't have agreed with this as an adolescent, but I figured it out once I watched the film again almost a decade ago. The Crow is a very corny action revenge flick with a series of progressively worse movie sequels and a horrid TV show. I'd imagine that a remake could be better than the original, but Hollywood loves to prove me wrong.sk3 said:
Dastardly Jerks
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Count Dookkake said:
Did a copy of The Crow fly off the shelf and hit you as a child or something?
Count Dookkake
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I am sorry that you guys are offended by the idea that The Crow is a middling entertainment.
lol
Dastardly Jerks said:
lol
TheKaeptain
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Simon Belmont said:
No, you still get retro reviews from certain sites.
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