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[Snowman Prophet of Doom]

That's not his fault, Bruce Wayne was a boring character anyways. He's upstaged in both films (much less so in BB because of the party scene though).

But the actor himself is probably unmatched in these casts aside from Ledger and Oldman. Oh and maybe Murphy too (dude was great in that IRA movie)





Imagine the noises Bale-Batman would make during that scene, rofl.

Who upstages him in Batman Begins? Maaaaybe Gardy Oldman, but I remember Oldman more for TDK.

 

[Messypandas]

Who upstages him in Batman Begins? Maaaaybe Gardy Oldman, but I remember Oldman more for TDK.

Falafel guy. I have kids to feed. KIDS!

 

[Discotheque]

Yeah maybe nobody upstages him in Batman Begins, but he wasn't very interesting either in that film.

Eh I'll give it to the hobo, or Cillian Murphy for his intentionally campy performance.

 

[effzee]

He was mostly outshined because in tdk there were so many characters that the focus on bruce/batman was much less. I loved tdk but its one flaw was that there was too much going on. They didnt have time to show bruce grieving. Thats my fear with this new one too. So far we have catwoman, bane, and now falcone. Don't want too many characters.

 

[Blader]

He was mostly outshined because in tdk there were so many characters that the focus on bruce/batman was much less. I loved tdk but its one flaw was that there was too much going on. They didnt have time to show bruce grieving. Thats my fear with this new one too. So far we have catwoman, bane, and now falcone. Don't want too many characters.

Except for the scene of Bruce grieving.

 

[Discotheque]

He was mostly outshined because in tdk there were so many characters that the focus on bruce/batman was much less. I loved tdk but its one flaw was that there was too much going on. They didnt have time to show bruce grieving. Thats my fear with this new one too. So far we have catwoman, bane, and now falcone. Don't want too many characters.

Falcone will probably be a minor part. Just because he cast JGL doesn't mean he's obligated to pad-up the guy's screentime.

This will probably be another Bruce/Batman movie (like the first). Keep in mind that one had Falcone, Ras Al Ghul and Scarecrow. And they still had plenty of time to focus on Bruce chilling with Alfred.

 

[DMczaf]

Yeah maybe nobody upstages him in Batman Begins, but he wasn't very interesting either in that film.

He carries Begins, if he doesn't work then the whole movie falls apart and there's no Dark Knight or Dark Knight Rises.

Over half the film is before he even puts on the cape and cowl. They got people to care about Bruce Wayne for the first time in live action film.

 

[RustyNails]

Does this mean Sal Maroni is dead?

 

[Danielsan]

He carries Begins, if he doesn't work then the whole movie falls apart and there's no Dark Knight or Dark Knight Rises.

Over half the film is before he even puts on the cape and cowl. They got people to care about Bruce Wayne for the first time in live action film.

Exactly. Only to make us not give a fuck about him in the sequel. I was rooting for the Joker throughout the entire movie.

 

[Stitch]

smh that's not what bob kane would say.

bob kane preferred solo batman.

one of the reasons why robin was created was that batman was always thinking or having internal monologues. it confused people at that time so they gave batman someone he could talk to :lol

 

[effzee]

Except for the scene of Bruce grieving.

I didnt think that scene was enough. I wanted something similar to his anger in the first movie. Or maybe it was because the character of rachel was handled soo poorly in tdk and it lacked the relationship she had with bruce in the first.

 

[Penguin]

I have to say, I love this news. The Long Halloween is my personal favorite Batman story, and JGL seems perfect for the role. This is gonna be a long year and a half.

 

[Snake]

Does this mean Sal Maroni is dead?

Seat belts save lives, kids.

 

[Champomade]

Michael Mann should make the next Batman film (TDK pretty much was apeing him anyways).

Batman calls Alfred on a payphone while Robin's leaning on the batmobile. Then they drive to Falcone's hideout while Phil Collins plays. Fuck yeah! (?)

Humanity is not ready for this yet (but it would be glorious)

 

[RichardAM]

Not really a surprise.

Interested in what Nolan does with the character though, if it's something from the comics or totally original and within his own universe.

 

[Solo]

Seems quite obvious now (Thomas W/Bruce W, Carmine F/Alberto F, maybe Rhas AG/Talia AG) that a major theme in this will be the relationship between parents and children, and the rise and fall of families, both of which I love.

Now we just need Thomas Wayne and Rhas flashbacks.

 

[Solo]

Does this mean Sal Maroni is dead?

I can confirm that Maroni died as a result of excessive scenery chewing resulting in death by Eric Roberts.

 

[Imm0rt4l]

Awesome news!


Also:

Dear Nolan.

Please insert a voice changer for Batman in the new film. I am sick of laughing out loud every time I hear Batman shout at some bad guys.


Thanks.

P.S

It'd be great if the thing changed his voice to a dub of Kevin Conroy.

THIS.

 

[Angry Fork]

The only thing i'm worried about with this film is Anne Hathaway. I just cannot stand her for some reason, her face is so punchable. She looks like Gumbi. She has huge horse teeth/mouth/eyes when she smiles and is so goofy.

I can somewhat tolerate her if she's not smiling, but as Cat woman? There's no way this girl has a violent bone in her body. They should've got someone who looks like she could handle herself on rooftops and not some red carpet walker.

 

[G-Fex]

bob kane preferred solo batman.

one of the reasons why robin was created was that batman was always thinking or having internal monologues. it confused people at that time so they gave batman someone he could talk to :lol

Welp I'm out of excuses. Carry on.

And I didn't need the scary grunting to disguise my voice. Pure. Keaton.

 

[DMczaf]

Someone on SHH who works for or around WB (he posted info during TDK's pre-release as well) said the buzz around Rises at the studio is mostly all on Hathaway's Catwoman screentest.

Also, Nolan and Goyer have wanted to use Catwoman since Begins.

 

[The Technomancer]

Ooh, awesome news. Liked Levitt ever since he was on Third Rock.

 

[Incendiary]

He was mostly outshined because in tdk there were so many characters that the focus on bruce/batman was much less. I loved tdk but its one flaw was that there was too much going on. They didnt have time to show bruce grieving. Thats my fear with this new one too. So far we have catwoman, bane, and now falcone. Don't want too many characters.

There were a lot of characters in TDK too. Like Anthony Michael Hall was a fairly big casting announcement if I remember correctly (obviously not as big as Ledger or Eckhart), and he showed up for like two minutes of the movie.

I have faith in Nolan, he knows what he's doing.

 

[Solo]

Jett from BOF comes off like a giant douche.

 

[TheKaeptain]

Does this mean Sal Maroni is dead?

Wasn't he the only boss that Joker didn't kill?

 

[Solo]

Wasn't he the only boss that Joker didn't kill?

Yes, but Dent killed him in the car crash.

 

[SpacedCadette]

I never understood the appeal of putting Robin into these movies. Nolan's batman just doesn't fit the archetype to have a sidekick at all. He didn't build him up that way.

I just can't wrap my head around why people are so hung up on him. Maybe it's the thighs.

Edit: Smaller picture. Other one was kinda big

 

[RustyNails]

Yes, but Dent killed him in the car crash.

But Dent survived the car crash. If a half burned man can survive it, a man with half broken legs surely can as well!

 

[Solo]

But Dent survived the car crash. If a half burned man can survive it, a man with half broken legs surely can as well!

Dent put his seatbelt on. Maroni didn't. Just adding 2 + 2 here, just like when Dent died and a lot of Gaffers didn't get it.

Dent falls several stories, lands on head, breaks neck, dies.

Dent buckles up, kills Maroni's driver, car crashes violently and kills the unbuckled and unsuspecting Maroni.

 

[TheKaeptain]

I never understood the appeal of putting Robin into these movies. Nolan's batman just doesn't fit the archetype to have a sidekick at all. He didn't build him up that way.

I just can't wrap my head around why people are so hung up on him. Maybe it's the thighs.

Nice an old picture of Robin. Because we all know he still looks like that and that Dick isn't Batman right now.

 

[G-Fex]

talk all the crap you want but the last scene in Under the Red Hood nearly made me cry.

 

[DMczaf]

David Goyer says he's dead. Jonah and Chris say he's dead. Producers say he's dead. Script says he's dead. Eckhart says he's dead over and over and over, and even tells a story about how Chris said he's not in the movie.


....Eckhart messes with an interviewer by giving a weird answer... "OMG HE MIGHT BE ALIVE! SEEEEEEEEE!"

 

[SpacedCadette]

Nice an old picture of Robin. Because we all know he still looks like that and that Dick isn't Batman right now.

The picture was a joke.

I still stand by the fact that I don't feel like Robin really fits in with this particular version of Batman.

Robin has his place. He's good in the comics and DC has done a better job of portraying him over the years as something other than "Batman's Sidekick". The Dick Grayson Batman story arc is an example of this. He has more substance than he used to and I'll give you that.

But as a character in the Nolan universe he just doesn't really have a place because of the type of character Nolan has portrayed Bruce Wayne as at this stage.

 

[TheKaeptain]

talk all the crap you want but the last scene in Under the Red Hood nearly made me cry.

Yes it was perfect. It also shows why Robin in the right hands could be the best thing in any Bats movie ever made.

 

[Dead]

Has anyone considered Nolan might pay a nod to the Loeb and Sale story "Catwoman: When in Rome?"

In that story, Catwoman was convinced her father was Carmine Falcone....

With a Falcone in this story, and Catwoman in it as well, I wonder if Nolan will reference this, considering he pretty heavily referenced The Long Halloween in TDK.

 

[TheKaeptain]

The picture was a joke.

But as a character in the Nolan universe he just doesn't really have a place because of the type of character Nolan has portrayed Bruce Wayne as at this stage.

I thought you were trying to Fusebox with that picture. Sorry.



Of course it wouldn't work in the current timeline because Bruce is still in his on his early years mode. Robin would have to be worked in over the course of a few movies. Not just here is this kid; he found out who I am; here is your costume.

 

[Stinkles]

Nice an old picture of Robin. Because we all know he still looks like that and that Dick isn't Batman right now.

All of this is news to me.

 

[SpacedCadette]

talk all the crap you want but the last scene in Under the Red Hood nearly made me cry.

Not arguing with you there.

Under the Red Hood was indeed awesome. As was Batman Beyond's "Return of the Joker".

I thought you were trying to Fusebox with that picture. Sorry.

We're cool, homie. Didn't want you to think I was trying to start a Robin war

 

[RedSwirl]

Awesome news!


Also:

Dear Nolan.

Please insert a voice changer for Batman in the new film. I am sick of laughing out loud every time I hear Batman shout at some bad guys.


Thanks.

P.S

It'd be great if the thing changed his voice to a dub of Kevin Conroy.

Pretty sure in Dark Knight he used a voice changer.

 

[PhoenixDark]

He carries Begins, if he doesn't work then the whole movie falls apart and there's no Dark Knight or Dark Knight Rises.

Over half the film is before he even puts on the cape and cowl. They got people to care about Bruce Wayne for the first time in live action film.

Begins is average in part because Bale is so un-interesting. The action scenes are forgettable and there isn't a single interesting villain in the film. Bale is good as Wayne overall no doubt, but his Batman is poor.

The same thing happens in TDK, but Ledger is there to carry the entire film. It's a great film despite not having an interesting protagonist.

 

[RedSwirl]

So wait is Bane still in this? If so don't you think we got at least one character too many with him, Talia, Catwoman, and the mob? I just don't want to see another Spider-Man 3. This'll likely be the first time the third movie in a superhero trilogy hasn't fucked up.

 

[brianjones]

Begins is average in part because Bale is so un-interesting. The action scenes are forgettable and there isn't a single interesting villain in the film. Bale is good as Wayne overall no doubt, but his Batman is poor.

The same thing happens in TDK, but Ledger is there to carry the entire film. It's a great film despite not having an interesting protagonist.

yawn

Michael Mann should make the next Batman film (TDK pretty much was apeing him anyways).

because of one bank heist scene? lol

 

[raphier]

Pretty sure in Dark Knight he used a voice changer.

He did not. He just changed his tone which sounded awful and annoying to me.

 

[SpacedCadette]

So wait is Bane still in this? If so don't you think we got at least one character too many with him, Talia, Catwoman, and the mob? I just don't want to see another Spider-Man 3. This'll likely be the first time the third movie in a superhero trilogy hasn't fucked up.

Bane is definitely still in this. I wouldn't worry about this turning into Spider-Man 3. The big difference being that Spider-Man 3 wanted you to be aware of every single villain in that movie and spent WAY to much time on each of them.

It was stated above by Incendiary about Nolan casting a lot of characters, but not having them all fight for screen time. He casts big players and important character that really may only have a couple minutes of screen time.

Anthony Michael Hall was a fairly big casting announcement if I remember correctly (obviously not as big as Ledger or Eckhart), and he showed up for like two minutes of the movie.

 

[Solo]

So wait is Bane still in this? If so don't you think we got at least one character too many with him, Talia, Catwoman, and the mob? I just don't want to see another Spider-Man 3. This'll likely be the first time the third movie in a superhero trilogy hasn't fucked up.

Batman Begins:
- Bruce Wayne/Batman
- Rhas Al Ghul
- Carmine Falcone
- Jonathan Crane/The Scarecrow
- Rachel Dawes
- Jim Gordon
- Lucious Fox
- Alfred

The Dark Knight:
- Bruce Wayne/Batman
- The Joker
- Sal Maroni
- Harvey Dent/Two-Face
- Rachel Dawes
- Jim Gordon
- Lucious Fox
- Alfred

The Dark Knight Rises:
- Bruce Wayne/Batman
- Bane
- Alfredo Maroni
- Selina Kyle/Catwoman
- Talia Al Ghul
- Jim Gordon
- Lucious Fox
- Alfred

I wouldn't be too worried.

 

[DMczaf]

You forgot Rachel Dawes's charred corpse in Rises. I hear it steals the movie.

 

[TheKaeptain]

All of this is news to me.

Well yeah. Robin is now Bruce's son and Dick is gotham's bat while Bruce just runs shit.

 

[RichardAM]

Was Marion Cotillard/Talia Al-Ghul ever fully confirmed or are we still on rumours?

 

[Solo]

Was Marion Cotillard/Talia Al-Ghul ever fully confirmed or are we still on rumours?

Rumored, but Hardy and JGL were rumored just as long, so it seems almost inevitable.

 

[ezekial45]

Did they even confirm Talia was going to be in this movie?