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The decline of blizzard

As a Diablo fan I've been following their process closely. Several devs already left, some devs actually regretting the choice to join the team etc

D4 will tank sadly. It's MTX disaster, I've heard there are 2 expansions already in plan smh
They give half of the map and then expand it throughout the comin years
 
Sorry if it depressed you. I'm so trying to coup with losing her and when things come to mind of her I spill it out to help with the grieving.

Thank you
It's no problem man, it's fine to spill out our feelings sometimes, I can't even imagine how painful it must have been.
It's fine to share memories like that.
 
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Hearthstone started making nearly $40 million per month as of August 2017. That's what happened. A mobile game took over and showed them how much profit they can make.
 
Hearthstone started making nearly $40 million per month as of August 2017. That's what happened. A mobile game took over and showed them how much profit they can make.
I think that's also the case for WoW, the cash shop probably earns more money than the subscriptions.
I know some people that buy every mount they put up on the shop.

But yes Hearthstone is their goldmine and they know that.
People basically pay the full price of a new game everytime a new expansion comes out, just for the starter packs.
 
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Hearthstone started making nearly $40 million per month as of August 2017. That's what happened. A mobile game took over and showed them how much profit they can make.

I think WoW was just too big. They had to staff up so much to support that game, think of how much went into maintaining the game, making expansions, patches, customer support, everything. Before that game they were a relatively small company that put out one game every 2-3 years. They essentially had to become EA overnight.

That's probably one big reason why DOTA slipped from their fingers.
 
I'm hoping Mike Ybarra has a big impact there and can bring them back to the Blizzard of old a bit.

Though with that said I've played and enjoyed Hearthstone, Overwatch, and Diablo 3 far more and for more hours than most other companies games.
 
From WC2 until vanilla WoW - Blizzard has some of my best gaming memories. Starcraft was my entire junior high. I remember having never played anything like Diablo at the time and picking it from a mountain of boxes at my local CompUSA. Had never seen a display like that for a game.

I've probably put more hours in Warcraft III / Frozen throne than any other game. Still play it and watch competitive tournaments every week.

Really loved WoW for a couple years, it was incredible there at the start - but I had enjoyed other MMO's more (Ultima Online).

Since then - Starcraft 2 disappointed, Diablo 3 was pretty decent and Overwatch is garbage.
Diablo II and WCIII were fucking prime dude
 
I'll give this a watch later (when I'm done with Wow for the night!).

I've been a wow player since 2006 and there's definitely a decline, but it's still a fun game for me, bar the usual two expac rule (one good, then bad and so on).

I played Overwatch and Diablo 3 to death and enjoyed the hell out of them so I can't really comment as a long time fan of their old stuff but I still enjoy their output. I guess I'm part of the problem!
 
It's been a while since the last time they've "wow"-ed anyone.
Financially, hardy anyone comes close.

I liked games up to D3.
Financially, I think they are fine.

The problem they have, I think, is that standards by which they are measured are high.
 
Even though my friends disagree I am still convinced that it all went to shit after Activision. Pretty sure the first real money items came to the store shortly after that and it basically went downhill since then.

The old Blizzard was stuff made out of dreams. They made industry leading games pushing and pushing and you could see that they loved making games that would play.

Diablo 4 looks great though, but Blizzard Activision is much more business now and no passion.
 
As a Diablo fan I've been following their process closely. Several devs already left, some devs actually regretting the choice to join the team etc

D4 will tank sadly. It's MTX disaster, I've heard there are 2 expansions already in plan smh
They give half of the map and then expand it throughout the comin years

D4 won't tank. Blizzard can't make a good rpg anymore, but the Diablo name will probably sell well like TLOU2. There will also be younger players who enjoy it, while Diablo vets will probably hate it.

And they haven't made two expansions. They've made the game, and cut something off to sell it at a later date is more likely.
 
The total apathy and contempt with which they treated Warcraft III: Reforged honestly shocked me. I mean, they released a game so unfinished it deleted dozens of essential features from the previous version of the game, most of which are still missing today. It literally required you to manually edit a text file to remap keys.

Then when they put out an apology (I'd put the word apology in sarcasm quotes, but there's not enough irony in the world to merit calling it an apology, really), they blatantly lied and claimed they cut all the new dynamic cutscenes because they wanted to preserve the feel of the original campaigns, while simultaneously making terrible and arbitrary changes to those campaigns (like badly replacing every voice line saying "Grom" with "Hellscream"). I don't really care that they cut the new cutscenes; that's the least of the game's sins. It's the flagrantness with which they lied that appalls me. They lied, they knew they were lying, we knew they were lying, and they just did not care.

The people in charge of Reforged never for a second thought that fans of Warcraft III mattered. They were literally incapable of seeing it as anything but a piece of product to pad out the last quarter of the fiscal year. But not only did they not care in even the smallest degree about the game, they apparently didn't care about their integrity and reputation as a studio either.
 
TBC was the last great Blizzard production, imho. I'm playing it now, it still retains the sincerity of Vanilla WoW but has genuinely attempted to improve upon it in every way. Warcraft 3 was a beautiful achievement. Tears.
 
It's the big cycle of Dev studios.

The founders work really hard to install a culture. (warcraft 1 - 2)
After 10-15 years they hit their strides and release amazing games. (Diablo 2, warcraft 3)

With the money and the success they take risk. (World of Warcraft)
Then they get bored and they don't have the will anymore.

The young people who made their mark working on the big games get their time to shine (Heartstone)
Slowly the veteran forget what it mean to make a good game because of all the successes.

Then begin the slow decline and the coast phase (where we are now)

It happened to all the best devs (Westwood, Looking Glass, Impressions Games, LucasArts, etc, etc)
 
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The sound of the bell at Blizzard echoes the impermanence of all things. The hue of flowers of the teak tree declares that they who flourish must e brought low. Yea, the proud ones are but for a moment like an evening dream in springtime. The mighty are destroyed at last, they are but as the dust before the wind.
 
I haven't felt the same way since StarCraft II had a laughable story and no LAN mode. StarCraft is my favorite game, so this was my most anticipated title of all time and I took it personally. For me, that was it. They totally lost my confidence.

I did get Overwatch for 20 bucks though. I enjoyed and got sucked into the game, but burned out from their lacking updates and annoying meddling like role queue.

Who knows. I swore I would never buy another EA game, but then Jedi Fallen Order was half price last week.
 
Agreed. Used to love Blizzard. Now it seems they put more effort into getting woke than to quality control for games. And sure, the downhill slide started before the virtue signaling, but there was a point when I actually wanted Blizzard to make a comeback. Now I don't really care.

EDIT: Damn, 30+ minutes. Going to have to finish the vid later. But so far I'm on board.
Only two posts in and the woke blaming begins.

Come on GAF we're getting crazy with this stuff now.

Yes I'm sure all of the QA team has been diverted to equality and human rights issues and they no longer care about the quality of their games.

I'm sick of every negative thing in the games industry being attributed to 'being woke'. It's nonsense.
 
Activision is going downhill hard as fuck. Literally only Call of Duty and their mobile games are keeping them going.

EA fucking sucks and needs some real competition.
 
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They are still industry leaders (Overwatch clones are still coming out even in 2020) but they don't have that same vibe as they did during the glory years. Blizzard meant quality above all else, can't say the same these days.
 
Wait a second...

Is this just a single player gamers not liking Blizzards clear multiplayer focused direction thread?

It all makes sense now, lol.
 
Not much to discuss here, the decline is easily quantifiable. It's exactly waist high - just enough to suck on China's cock.
 

can't say i'm surprised. activision strikes again (not that blizzard have ever been good to their employees anyway)


They partly pay their employees in "honor points" to buy swag aparently. Didn't Victorian mill owners used to pull shit like that? Company currency that could only be used in company owned shops.

Anyway. Explains why their games are shit lately... The staff are demoralised.
 
They are still industry leaders (Overwatch clones are still coming out even in 2020) but they don't have that same vibe as they did during the glory years. Blizzard meant quality above all else, can't say the same these days.

It's their own fault to be late to the party. The genre is more or less dead with a few deniers in the mix.
 
I unironically (at least in parts) blame it on their diversity hire policy. Everything slowly goes to shit if you don't put the most talented and passionate people into leading positions.
 
"The bigger they are the harder they fall". It's sad to see that a company/developer who used to be considered as the no.1 in the world has fallen so hard and doesn't resemble its former self even by a tiny bit, but it is what it is, it's all just a business and even the biggest players make missteps, from which it's often impossible to get back, Sega doesn't make consoles anymore, IBM isn't what it used to be, and so on, at the end of the day they Blizz is still making shit-ton of money, and that's what ultimately matters for them, so there's an audience who appreciates what they do.
 
I unironically (at least in parts) blame it on their diversity hire policy. Everything slowly goes to shit if you don't put the most talented and passionate people into leading positions.
Not this crap again.

No evidence of that whatsoever. What are you so paranoid about? Your privilege isn't going anywhere soon.

Diverse teams can be passionate and talented just as much as not diverse teams can be unimaginative echo chambers.
 
Hate to bust your bubble but their stock is climbing to all time highs. they will be just fine unless you are thinking their 'name' properties will suddenly die, which from this site a name (no matter how many boring sequels) is everything.
 
The "decline of Blizzard" brought us...

Overwatch
Hearthstone
Heroes of the Storm
And Diablo III

They're arguably the best developer/publisher of the generation.

I wish more companies would "decline" like Blizzard.
 
The "decline of Blizzard" brought us...

Overwatch
Hearthstone
Heroes of the Storm
And Diablo III

They're arguably the best developer/publisher of the generation.

I wish more companies would "decline" like Blizzard.

You forgot this one little game called WoW. Its not really that big, easily forgettable.
 
Blizzard used to make amazing game once a decade? and supports them till Sun runs out or players.

The New Blizzard might be bit greedy but Game output is much much better and varied. I see no problem here.
 
The "decline of Blizzard" brought us...

Overwatch
Hearthstone
Heroes of the Storm
And Diablo III

They're arguably the best developer/publisher of the generation.

I wish more companies would "decline" like Blizzard.
Well, if you compare that to WarCraft III, StarCraft, Diablo II and World of WarCraft, then that is actually a decline, IMHO.
 
The "decline of Blizzard" brought us...

Overwatch
Hearthstone
Heroes of the Storm
And Diablo III

They're arguably the best developer/publisher of the generation.

I wish more companies would "decline" like Blizzard.

Overwatch was a very shallow shooter, with promise of lots of free content. Which we didn't get.

Hearthstone is a basic kids version of magic the gathering. Good entry for card games but becomes shallow quick.

Heroes of the storm is a kids moba that's good to learn so you can play Dota 2.

Diablo 3 is the worst game in the entire franchise. We went from cool action RPG to a dull monster slaughter simulator with absolute zero rpg in it.

Yeah, blizzard is dead.
 
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Overwatch was a very shallow shooter, with promise of lots of free content. Which we didn't get.

Hearthstone is a basic kids version of magic the gathering. Good entry for card games but becomes shallow quick.

Heroes of the storm is a kids moba that's good to learn so you can play Dota 2.

Diablo 3 is the worst game in the entire franchise. We went from cool action RPG to a dull monster slaughter simulator with absolute zero rpg in it.

Yeah, blizzard is dead.

No, your opinion is wrong and MY opinion is right.
 
Fantastic video. I never played any of their games but I've seen the hate and failures since Diablo 3
 
Only two posts in and the woke blaming begins.

Come on GAF we're getting crazy with this stuff now.

Yes I'm sure all of the QA team has been diverted to equality and human rights issues and they no longer care about the quality of their games.

I'm sick of every negative thing in the games industry being attributed to 'being woke'. It's nonsense.

You come to a thread about one of the biggest virtue-signaling companies in the games industry and are surprised that someone brings it up? Did you even watch the video?

You quoted me but apparently didn't read what I wrote. I didn't attribute "every negative thing in the games industry" to "being woke". In fact, I acknowledged that "the downhill slide started before the virtue signaling"; in your rush to faux-outrage you must have missed that. My point was that I was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt when it came to sub-par products until they jumped on the politically correct bandwagon. It was then where they lost me as a customer.

But maybe you're right. Maybe I'm foolish to think Blizzard should spend more time putting out good games and less talking about how awesome they are. Maybe they aren't as woke as they pretend to be. After all, they don't seem to care much for "equality and human rights issues" in places like China. And if the latest news stories are to be believed, they apparently don't care much for their employees here either*. And isn't that what makes their virtue-signaling even more hypocritical?

I see by your replies I'm not the only one that triggered you. If you're looking for an echo-chamber of opinions like yours that want to ignore the elephant in the room, you've got the wrong forum.
 
Wrath of the Lich King was pretty good too!!

Have so many great memories in Ulduar!

Aaaah this! My Horde guild was doing Yogg 25 HM and got realm first 2 minutes before an Alliance guild, nailing Death's Demise. Probably one of my most memorable moments I've ever had in video gaming. WoW is one of those games I want to keep loving, but I couldn't after WoD.

This video was great, it really presented how Bliz has declined as a company. I personally don't have the time of day for them anymore. I think Activision buying them in 2013 was the real nail in the coffin.
 
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