Resident_UA
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You should probably ALL CAP the word "built". A lot of people are misunderstanding this thread. The stick issues do kind of suck though...
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The DS4 is the worst built controller I have ever used
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JimboJones
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Can't be worse than the 360 controller, I have 3 and every single one suffers from analoge sticks that drift to the left (or get tend to stick in some direction) and the rubber on the sticks wear down very easily then theres the battery paks that (bought separately mind) tend to die faster than any other recharable battery I have ever used, but then if thats not bad enough the actual battery case for the AA batteries sometimes come loose.
I do love the controller design but the build quality is poop.
I do love the controller design but the build quality is poop.
I don't think any official pad has a horrible build, but for me it was the PS2 pad that had me paranoid. I still have my original PS3 pad when I bought one in 2009, and my original PS1 pad (the one without analog sticks) still works like new. I went through at least 4 different PS2 pads due to sticking D-pad inputs. After the third one I thought about just laying off fighters so that I'd stop wasting money on replacements. I never heard anyone else have this problem, but it plagued me that entire generation. Granted, I don't have any fighting games to put the DS4 D-pad to the test, but the thing is pristine everywhere else.
That doesn't work for my UK pad that went wrong as well!
derExperte
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I'm reading more and more complaints in German forums as well.
The rubber of the 360 pads seems to be less durable than that of the DS3's but imo its grip is better and my first one lasted for over 3 years (okay, as my main focus is PC I'm not using the pad 100% of the time but still regularly).
RoadHazard
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Hmm, yeah, the triggers on the 360 (and now PS4) are better as triggers than the ones on the GCN controller (which aren't really triggers at all, but rather ergonomically shaped shoulder buttons), but they're not as comfortable. With the GCN controller your fingers just melt into the thing, that's not quite the case here.
Couldn't fuckin agree more with the OP. It's actually a pretty damn awesome pad. I fuckin LOVE the sticks (especially its resistance, not loose like the PS3s) and triggers. But the left analog nub started showing tiny signs of wear after only a couple weeks. So I went out and bought those analog stick covers made for the PS3, used them on the PS4 controller. Peace of mind at last.
perineumlick
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My DS4 feels like a tank compared to any other controller I've ever used. I've played with the X1 controller for a bit, and it feels quite similar, though smaller than I thought it'd be. My only complaint of the DS4 is the battery life, I've had no problems with the sticks or the buttons. Not saying that their aren't problems, but I personally can't relate to all the claims of shoddy quality; my controller feels solid as a rock.
Portugeezer
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I had this problem. When I got FIFA on PS4 (I changed controls to R1 for sprinting), my R1 and L1 would stick when I pressed down hard, after a few days it was back to normal and never happened again.
Aside from that, it is one of the best controllers I have used.
DS4 is right up there with my favourite controllers 360 > PS4 > Gamecube > the rest
Yeah, the rubber on the analogue sticks sucks. Too bad, because otherwise the pad's quality seems perfect to me - haven't had any issues with L1/R1 so maybe i just got lucky on those.
Got a pack of Grip-it's on the way from Amazon, but still shouldn't have to use anything to extend durability of my pad within the first couple of years.
All in all, it's ultimately not a big issue, but definitely annoying...
Got a pack of Grip-it's on the way from Amazon, but still shouldn't have to use anything to extend durability of my pad within the first couple of years.
All in all, it's ultimately not a big issue, but definitely annoying...
I have a sticky L1 button too, will try the fix in a bit. Though to be honest, despite never experiencing an issue with a stock controller before, it's probably my fault as I never wash my hands and often dip my fingers in glue and ejaculate all over the controller before playing. You know, to warm up.
My L1 is starting to stick now, it only happened once I'd played Zen Pinball 2 a lot.
Also, the case creaks, like the two halves aren't tightened properly, except they are. I checked.
Thumbsticks are holding up although the texture is a little smoother on the commonly used edges.
Also, the case creaks, like the two halves aren't tightened properly, except they are. I checked.
Thumbsticks are holding up although the texture is a little smoother on the commonly used edges.
Appollowexx
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OP you obviously never experienced the joys of this little beauty.
I have no idea why people defend this either lol
SEGAvangelist
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OP you obviously never experienced the joys of this little beauty.
Strafing with that thing was hilarious.
EDIT: And Kasumi Ninja is probably the worst game I've ever played. Thanks for reminding me Atari Jaguar existed so I could remember my time with Kasumi Ninja. AvP was awesome, though.
Portugeezer
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I just kept pressing down hard when I used L1/R1, it went back to normal eventually, but I still don't understand how it started sticking... seems like the sponge/spring underneath was getting stuck or something.
Appollowexx
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Haha me and a friend were saving up to joint buy a Jaguar just because we were huge Alien / Predator fans as kids. I remember using the pad at the demo station in the mall - just really killed it for us
Love the DS4 myself and the build quality seems fine in my personal experience.
schwabdizzle
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I like the DS3 and the DS4 personally. The DS4 is a lot nicer though.
He's saying the OP is hallucinating. Analog thumbs peeling off was just a figment of his imagination.
Bitmap Frogs
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QA issues with the ds4 that came with my ps4:
a) Sticks have lost all grippy textured plastic and become hard and slippery.
b) The dots on the touchpad are vanishing with use.
c) Trigger's textured plastic is disappearing as well, they becoming flat and textureless
d) Gamepad is creaky.
e) Triggers or shoulder buttons occasionally get stuck
Yeah..
a) Sticks have lost all grippy textured plastic and become hard and slippery.
b) The dots on the touchpad are vanishing with use.
c) Trigger's textured plastic is disappearing as well, they becoming flat and textureless
d) Gamepad is creaky.
e) Triggers or shoulder buttons occasionally get stuck
Yeah..
I have played TLoU with ds4. Unfortunately don't support sixaxis, so I have to abondon it because, well, it's 'part' of the game (shake the torch), but the stick response put to the shame ds3. It's incredible how accurate it's the precision of the analogic control when you shot. I said this although I still prefer ds3 feeling in my hands for the tps in general. A pity GTA V not support it.
A friend in the psn said to me the same thing but thanks to God is never happened to me until on now. In AC4 I use both without problem. Maybe some ds4 are faulty?
A friend in the psn said to me the same thing but thanks to God is never happened to me until on now. In AC4 I use both without problem. Maybe some ds4 are faulty?
OP you obviously never experienced the joys of this little beauty.
There was nothing wrong with the build quality of the Jaguar controller. Read the OP.
perineumlick
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You have many who aren't having problems. Does that mean they are defending things?
Saint of Killers
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UK PS4...
If I press L1 on its left edge it sometimes sticks for a split second. If I press it full on it's fine. I can press any of the other buttons however I want and there is no sticking.
Left analogue had rubber coming off it a few days ago or so and now has thin scratches on it. Both these issues are on the left of the stick. Right analogue looks like it hasn't been touched.
The pad design is great. When it's working as intended it is one of the best ever but there is no doubting there are issues with some of them. Some people need to stop being defensive about it.
If I press L1 on its left edge it sometimes sticks for a split second. If I press it full on it's fine. I can press any of the other buttons however I want and there is no sticking.
Left analogue had rubber coming off it a few days ago or so and now has thin scratches on it. Both these issues are on the left of the stick. Right analogue looks like it hasn't been touched.
The pad design is great. When it's working as intended it is one of the best ever but there is no doubting there are issues with some of them. Some people need to stop being defensive about it.
GameAddict411
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in the other thread it's been revealed that there are different batches of the DS4, there is even a comparison if you are interested between the good and the bad ones.
GameAddict411
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just turn off the flashlight then turn it back on, you don't need the sixaxis for this.
No, but it doesn't change the fact that some people are blaming the 'victim'. And yes, they are defending the brand when they do that.
Appollowexx
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There really was, those naff rubber buttons. That cheap plastic. It was a shit controller and the build quality was also utter shit. DS4 is godlike build wise in comparison.
Also thanks I read the OP junior.
Deified Data
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Having trouble using anything other than a keyboard and mouse at the moment. Bought a 360 controller to play Skyrim on PC after having used a keyboard for a couple weeks and it felt cumbersome and unresponsive.
That Wont Fit In There
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Anyone know how to fix a sticky r1?
And am I stupid in thinking that you can't even turn off the controller in the middle of a Netflix film? When I've tried my movie is paused...
I have to charge the controller twice per week even though I don't even use the console for anything but Netflix.
It's not my fingers, it's the shape of the sticks. They're convex with little ridges around the edges. It's an awful, awful shape.
At least the previous DualShocks had a shape where you can press against the edges and have a proper, large, flat surface as leverage.
Microsoft did it right by ensuring that you have full control of the sticks without traction ever being a problem.
perineumlick
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You are talking in absolutes, but I don't think it's fair to make the generalization that anyone wondering if people are being too rough with their controller is a fanboy. I remember being accused of not taking care of my consoles properly, right here on GAF, back when the RROD fiasco was just taking off. I eventually went through 7 360s before it was done, and at first I received the same 'blaming the victim' responses. Sometimes people can't believe that the same product that they are having absolutely no problems with can be problematic without some type of user error, until that same problem happens to them. I of course know better from experience, and consider myself lucky to have not had any DS4 problems so far, but it does no one justice to cry fanboy at every turn.
It's OK to be incredulous, but when the number of reports about the DS4 continue to mount as they have and it's always the same defect being mentioned, it's time to stop victim-blaming. Not claiming you're doing that, but some people continue to do that. And yes, the easy conclusion to draw from that is that they're fanboys who can't stand hearing even the slightest bit of negativity aimed at their corporation of choice. Those people are easy to ignore though. I'm more interested in what Sony is doing about this. Hopefully it's an easily identifiable problem that they can correct.
You're not stupid. The designers of the app/console are stupid. The only way to turn off the controller during a movie is to set the DS4 to turn itself off after X amount of minutes. Turning off the controller, as you said, pauses the movie.
Pop the button off (yes, it's meant to be popped off). Then clean the stalk. What's causing the sticking is some residue on the stalk.
I'm mixed on it, and while it's far from terrible and waaaay better than anything 3rd party that doesn't cost at least $100, I'd agree it's probably one of the flimsiest feeling first-party controllers I've ever used. On the other hand, I've used it for a few weeks pretty heavily now and have no trigger/button issues, and while after the first few days of heavy play there's a small mark on my left analog stick that looks like it could have been the result of a tiny bit of peeling (caused a bit of a panic at the time), it's not done any more since.
What I will say against it oddly enough is while it feels really nice in my hands and controls well for 3D games/anything using the analog (probably favorite controller for that now), I did some Retroarch of some of my old SNES games with it (namely LttP while my girlfriend was playing LBW) and the D-Pad actually didn't feel that good... like it was slightly too large and had too much resistance so my thumb had to do a lot more work over other D-Pads I've used, making my attempt to semi-speedrun it actually fairly difficult. It's probably something I can get used to but it was pretty disappointed as it actually caused me to die in the first major dungeon (well, it and impatience to deal with things more cautiously while I get used to it).
What I will say against it oddly enough is while it feels really nice in my hands and controls well for 3D games/anything using the analog (probably favorite controller for that now), I did some Retroarch of some of my old SNES games with it (namely LttP while my girlfriend was playing LBW) and the D-Pad actually didn't feel that good... like it was slightly too large and had too much resistance so my thumb had to do a lot more work over other D-Pads I've used, making my attempt to semi-speedrun it actually fairly difficult. It's probably something I can get used to but it was pretty disappointed as it actually caused me to die in the first major dungeon (well, it and impatience to deal with things more cautiously while I get used to it).
Pops Maellard
Member
Entirely agree with the OP; the DS4 is the most poorly built first party controller I've ever used. I've used it for a handful of games on my PC since I purchased it, and it's already falling apart. It creaks, every joint feels mismatched and even worse when it rumbles, the right trigger sticks, etc. I love actually using the controller (for the most part), but it's terrible. I wish Microsoft had bothered to release drivers for the Xbox One controller, because it's infinitely better than the DS4 in terms of build quality.
gioGAF
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Can't say I agree with the OP. I have been using the DS4 heavily since buying my PS4 at launch and have experienced no problems. This is either an isolated / low percentage incident (same as hardware malfunctions) or the OP (or his brother) have an unusual / particular way of using the DS4 that is damaging it.
CambriaRising
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My three are still great and they are all being used on a regular basis. I guess there was just a bad batch.
IdreamofHIME
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I hate the sticks, i hope there's a revision with xbox or even DS3 style feeling sticks. The DS4's are like two little spongecakes. Yuck.
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