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[Papercuts]

360 gives me the texture bug when I use the menu. I tried to uninstall, STILL happens, so it isn't an install issue. Atleast I can reinstall to load faster...only issue I have with the game, though. No idea how they missed it, the game has been surprisingly not buggy otherwise.

 

[lucius]

The game still looks great overall for a game this size, I think it is gonna win most GOTY awards. I am playing on 360 installed and have the texture bug but I don't care for now I rather not put strain on the console and listen to the loud drive.

 

[bob page]

I bought the PS3 version of Skyrim and rented the 360 version. I've played about 4 hours of each. Believe it or not I had a similar experience of feeling ill with the PS3 version. I don't know but I think it has something to do with how I'm affected by motion related to framerate. It's like I'm trying to constantly refocus or something. I had the same experience with Dragon Age: the frame lag when rotating the camera gave me a headache and made me feel sick to my stomach. My friends thought I was crazy. No issues when playing it on my 360.

Anyway, back on topic: my experience with both versions of Skyrim echos some of what others have stated:

PS3 version:
--Better textures overall
--Darker, slightly washed out colors but with good delineation between colors
--Occasional loss of framerate with some slight jitter when panning or moving
--Short freezes in the opening sequence, complete PS3 lockup on that first staircase

360 version:
--Brighter, more pronounced colors, perhaps even too oversaturated at times?
--Some blurred textures and pop-in (hopefully installing will help the pop-in?)
--Minimal screen tearing when panning although installing seems to have helped this
--Smoother, more consistent framerate overall

So in my opinion the PS3 looks better, although with muted colors, but the 360 version runs smoother with slightly less detailed textures. If it weren't for my motion issue I'd keep the PS3 version but it looks like I'm going with the 360 version this time.

From the looks of the Lens of Truth article, the PS3 really doesn't have better textures when you don't factor in the 360 loading bug. I'm not sure if it's because it's more washed out or has worse shadows..

 

[Grisby]

The texture bug is only on some objects yes? Its not like if I install the game its gonna look like Unreal engine 3 refusing to stream in?

Getting done with Warhammer and was going to pop this sucker in soon.

 

[Johningame]

From the looks of the Lens of Truth article, the PS3 really doesn't have better textures when you don't factor in the 360 loading bug. I'm not sure if it's because it's more washed out or has worse shadows..

Good point, but those LOT PS3 screens look less detailed and more washed out than what I'm seeing on my TV. Perhaps textures are in the eye of the beholder?

Either way though, I'm liking the shadows, clarity and crispness of the 360 version post install. It's now even more the clear winner for me even with that damn bug. I hope they fix it soon.

 

[lucius]

The texture bug is only on some objects yes? Its not like if I install the game its gonna look like Unreal engine 3 refusing to stream in?

Getting done with Warhammer and was going to pop this sucker in soon.

Yeah it is usually just some object so you can notice it but I don't care enough that I am going to uninstall it, my 2nd playthrough will be with the patch most likely.

 

[TheDrowningMan]

How is the first dragon battle (as in first the one you're an active participant, not merely running for safety) frame rate on the 360?

 

[Johningame]

How is the first dragon battle (as in first the one you're an active participant, not merely running for safety) frame rate on the 360?

I was just going to ask the same thing--my PS3 version took a good hit on the framerate.

 

[papersleeves]

I didn't notice any framerate issue during that part (360). I did the intro like 4 times too because I had issues with auto save (not game related).

 

[Fix The Scientist]

PS3 definitely has some texture bugs, a dragon texture wouldnt load for me earlier, it looked like a blurry N64 model, quitting the game didnt fix it. I'm noticing a lot of other textures seem blurry too but i'm not 100% sure thats a bug. Half the inventory item textures are also bugged.

 

[T Ghost]

I was having the textures issues with the game installed to the HDD. Running ok from DVD but with annoying BOEING sound effects.

So I got a 16GB USB Drive (PNYs are on sale at BestBuy $19.99 for 16GB and $12.99 for 8GB), cleared cache of HDD and USB drive, installed the game into the USB Drive and moved my game saves to the USB drive.

Textures issues gone. BOEING sound effects gone. Faster loadings are back. I'm back in gaming heaven.

 

[inner-G]

Started a new game on my friends fat 360 and did not get the patch.

Been playing for hours and the textures are fine.

Looks much better, hope there is a fix soon

 

[Philthy]

From the looks of the Lens of Truth article, the PS3 really doesn't have better textures when you don't factor in the 360 loading bug. I'm not sure if it's because it's more washed out or has worse shadows..

Not valid, since both PS3 and 360 versions have a serious texture bug.

Good point, but those LOT PS3 screens look less detailed and more washed out than what I'm seeing on my TV. Perhaps textures are in the eye of the beholder?

Or.. it could be the texture bug on the PS3.

I've tried everything to fix it on mine, and it's unplayable right now.

PS3 definitely has some texture bugs, a dragon texture wouldnt load for me earlier, it looked like a blurry N64 model, quitting the game didnt fix it. I'm noticing a lot of other textures seem blurry too but i'm not 100% sure thats a bug. Half the inventory item textures are also bugged.

No textures in the game should look "blurry". Everything was razor sharp for me for the first 15 hours of play. All the NPC clothes had bump mapping, really sharp patterns, etc. Wood panels on walls, etc. Peoples faces should have pores that you can see. Facial hair should look hairy, not like a texture. If something doesn't look really detailed, then you've got the texture bug.

If someone could post on Bethesdas forum about this, the quicker we can probably get a fix. Registration is broke right now. (Surprise surprise!)

 

[FLUXCapacitor]

So figure I would chime in and say I have put in about 6 hours so far on the 360. The is game running off disk and I cleared the cache before I started playing. I haven't had any texture issues. Game looks amazing and runs good.

 

[Special J]

So figure I would chime in and say I have put in about 6 hours so far on the 360. The is game running off disk and I cleared the cache before I started playing. I haven't had any texture issues. Game looks amazing and runs good.

streaming off the disc or installing to a USB drive wont give you issues with texture streaming. seems like bethesda is working on a patch but who knows if it will actually fix it.

anyways superior version confirmed anyways (larger + higher quality paper)

 

[Liberty4all]

I'm debating PC version (I have a monster rig that will run it at high/ultra) OR 360/PS3 version ...

While I realize that PC will obviously look the best, I'm not sure if I want to spend 100 + hours in front of my PC ... May go couch and big screen for this one, especially since controls are optimized for consoles ...

 

[DenogginizerOS]

PS3 issues I have encountered:

1. Audio completely cutting out. Not sure if it is related to the wireless headphones.

2. Crashes. I have had a couple of nasty freezes and one complete crash straight to the XMB.

Oh, Bethesda.

 

[Fjordson]

The texture bug is only on some objects yes? Its not like if I install the game its gonna look like Unreal engine 3 refusing to stream in?

Getting done with Warhammer and was going to pop this sucker in soon.

I haven't seen anything to that degree. But I think it all depends. Some people say it's all over the place, whereas I've only noticed it occasionally on my weapons.

How is the first dragon battle (as in first the one you're an active participant, not merely running for safety) frame rate on the 360?

Fine. Framerate has been smooth all around for me.

 

[Cheech]

I'm debating PC version (I have a monster rig that will run it at high/ultra) OR 360/PS3 version ...

While I realize that PC will obviously look the best, I'm not sure if I want to spend 100 + hours in front of my PC ... May go couch and big screen for this one, especially since controls are optimized for consoles ...

Run an HDMI cable to your home theater. It might be a PITA, but it's worth it.

Put 6 hours into the PC version, and have had zero issues so far.

The funny (well, not funny ha ha) is that it sounds like a lot of you guys are at your breaking point, which is where I was last year. New Vegas and Dead Rising 2 both gave me insane problems on the 360, so I just snapped and built a gaming PC. It is completely worth it. The current crop of console hardware is just not handling some of these games well at all.

That said, the "comfy couch" thing is compelling, and don't let the elitist crowd tell you otherwise. I actually have my gaming PC located in a different room and have an HDMI cable run through the wall, along with a USB hub for KB/M, but I use my 360 wireless pad with all PC games that make sense. It is not as easy as just plugging a console in, but in the end it was worth it.

 

[dreamer3kx]

PS3 issues I have encountered:

1. Audio completely cutting out. Not sure if it is related to the wireless headphones.

I was just going to comment on this, I have the Sony surround sound headset and it does this, sound skipping, mostly outside in the world, also Im pretty disappointed with the ps3 version so far, just looks bland with low frames.

 

[KidDork]

Have it on PS3.

Five crashes so far, with one freeze.

Have not been able to get past the opening sequence.

Spoiler

I get as far as leaping out of the tower, running to the sergeant who asks me to follow him, but as soon as the dragon's claw hits, CRASH

Grrr.

 

[Evlar]

My PS3 experience has been relatively trouble-free. No real issues to speak of; it definitely looks and runs much better than Oblivion.

 

[Hawk269]

I'm debating PC version (I have a monster rig that will run it at high/ultra) OR 360/PS3 version ...

While I realize that PC will obviously look the best, I'm not sure if I want to spend 100 + hours in front of my PC ... May go couch and big screen for this one, especially since controls are optimized for consoles ...

Dude...definately connect that PC to your big screen and get the PC version. I rented the 360 version and have the PC version and it is night and day the difference in graphic quality.

 

[GreekWolf]

360 version here, 3 hours into the game.

+ Playing off the disc, and zero problems. Textures are clean, crisp and razor sharp. Riverwood looks fantastic.

+ Framerate is silky-smooth. No drops, even with heavy action on screen.

+ The overall IQ looks amazing. Leagues ahead of Oblivion. I'm amazed this is actually running on 2005 hardware.

- Noticed two instances of screen tearing in the tutorial dungeon, but none (thus far) in the open world. I'm hyper-sensitive to tearing, so I'm hoping this is a one-time occurrence.

- I noticed a bizarre brightness fluctuation that occurs when looking up into the sky and then quickly back into the game world again. The light dims suddenly, as if your eyes are manually adjusting to the light source. It's so noticeable, that I thought my projector's dynamic lens shift was acting kooky. However, from reading message boards, other people are seeing it too on plasma and LCD screens. Apparently, it's a design choice by Bethesda, to mimic the feel of walking outdoors. I really don't like it at all, and wish there was some way to disable the effect. It's incredibly distracting.

 

[GodfatherX]

just ran into the 360 texture bug, not installed, about 3 hours or so in, in white

loaded skills menu to pick my first skill, then went back into the game. Shield and Axe textures went low res, other textures in the game world are loading slow. I can walk up to a sign or a set of stairs and see the texture load in fully after 4 or so seconds

 

[Ilive1up]

this game is incredible.

 

[TheDrowningMan]

Shit, I just saw a comparison video - the 360 version is SO much smoother in heavy combat. My PS3 copy is going the way of eBay, sadly, as I generally prefer using that console, but I cannot ignore such a huge difference. Pah, ten hours or so down the drain.

 

[Squishy]

streaming off the disc or installing to a USB drive wont give you issues with texture streaming. seems like bethesda is working on a patch but who knows if it will actually fix it.

anyways superior version confirmed anyways (larger + higher quality paper)

(map comparison)

Are you sure that isn't just the premium map that comes with some pre-orders?

 

[Big Chungus]

I was just going to comment on this, I have the Sony surround sound headset and it does this, sound skipping, mostly outside in the world, also Im pretty disappointed with the ps3 version so far, just looks bland with low frames.

Problems with the headset?

Dammit,I was going to get the PS3 version just because I wanted to use the headset.

 

[eso76]

Are you sure that isn't just the premium map that comes with some pre-orders?

nope, that's the map i found in the regular 360 version.
bigger dvd case = bigger map !

not that you're ever going to use the paper map anyway i think

 

[ShinNL]

Is there any way to add motion blur legitimately (so Steam achievements still work)? Kind of like the intro where the dragon shows up the first time while you're on the block with your head. Of course not in that extreme manner, but I like how smooth everyone looks. When looking around normally, everything seems so 'harsh'. It's especially the turning where the harshness is noticeable.

Edit: Completely wrong thread, I knew it was strange that I was reading about PS3 and 360 stuff!

 

[Squishy]

nope, that's the map i found in the regular 360 version.
bigger dvd case = bigger map !

not that you're ever going to use the paper map anyway i think

The bigger map also seems to be in some PS3 copies, according to comments by users on the very article that makes the claim that the 360 version has the better map;

http://www.lensoftruth.com/skyrim-a-comparison-of-maps-ps3-xbox-360/
I doubt that it's because the 360 box is bigger. Is it that hard to fold the map a few more times?

 

[TheDrowningMan]

The bigger map also seems to be in some PS3 copies, according to comments by users on the very article that makes the claim that the 360 version has the better map;

http://www.lensoftruth.com/skyrim-a-comparison-of-maps-ps3-xbox-360/
I doubt that it's because the 360 box is bigger. Is it that hard to fold the map a few more times?

I'll do a comparison when I get home as I have the 'premium' map on both formats, but looking in the 360 box just now leads me to believe that it does indeed have a bigger map, regardless of what version you get.

 

[TheDrowningMan]

Yep, 360's premium map is bigger than the PS3's! Same material.

 

[j-wood]

I'm really torn GAF...do I get this on PS3 or PC?

Obviously the PC will have better graphics, but I've heard the interface is terrible.

On PS3, I'm worried about the framerate and controls being clunky on a controller.

Can I get some advice?

 

[TheDrowningMan]

I'm really torn GAF...do I get this on PS3 or PC?

Obviously the PC will have better graphics, but I've heard the interface is terrible.

On PS3, I'm worried about the framerate and controls being clunky on a controller.

Can I get some advice?

The controls are fine with a pad. I suspect that the PC interface issues are due to it effectively being a console port and designed around that control method.

I've just bought it on 360 and listed my PS3 copy for sale due to the framerate going to hell in a hand basket during the first dragon battle. Having said that, I've heard that PC performance can be wildly inconsistent for no real reason on set-ups which should run it flawlessly, so...

 

[CrankyKong]

I'm sure they'll patch it up sooner or later but I'll get a USB tomorrow for the install.
Needed one anyway

 

[TheDrowningMan]

I haven't done much Xbox gaming since buying my slim nearly a year ago (up until then it was número uno)...I haven't installed and it's a real novelty to have a quiet 360 right now!

 

[Rebel Leader]

I noticed severe framrate drops after a few hours.. To the point I had tp save & quit.. Shut PS3 off and let it rest

 

[Durante]

I'm really torn GAF...do I get this on PS3 or PC?

Obviously the PC will have better graphics, but I've heard the interface is terrible.

On PS3, I'm worried about the framerate and controls being clunky on a controller.

Can I get some advice?

Controls are actually pretty damn good on mouse/keyboard once you set iPresentInterval=0 in the .ini (that removes input lag, look in the PC tech thread).

And you can always get controls/interface at least as "good" as on consoles by plugging in your controller, but still with the better graphics, framerate and mods.

 

[wwm0nkey]

EDIT: Wrong thread

 

[iSurvivedTheOutage]

Not to get off of topic but I actually prefer to use the joystick on this game. It allows me to relax in my chair- the complete opposite of what Im doing when Im playing BF3 or other FPSs.

 

[hamchan]

The framerate has gone to crap in Whiterun now after 25 hours of playing.

 

[mocoworm]

I have this installed tommy 360 and have had no texture issues at all so far. I am about 5 hours in. I have had some screen tearing and some stuttering on the intro set pieces but definitely no texture issues yet.

 

[civilstrife]

Those of you who own one version and are flip flopping with the idea of buying another because of this thread... Just don't.

Not because there aren't differences, but because the differences themselves are so minuscule and you're only letting the "grass is greener" OCD mindset rob you of enjoying one of the best console games in years. The game is beautiful and supremely playable and smooth on all platforms. Get out of this thread and enjoy it!

 

[DenogginizerOS]

I'm really torn GAF...do I get this on PS3 or PC?

Obviously the PC will have better graphics, but I've heard the interface is terrible.

On PS3, I'm worried about the framerate and controls being clunky on a controller.

Can I get some advice?

PC. I originally went with PS3. Using an X360 controller and it is perfect.

 

[TheDrowningMan]

Those of you who own one version and are flip flopping with the idea of buying another because of this thread... Just don't.

Not because there aren't differences, but because the differences themselves are so minuscule and you're only letting the "grass is greener" OCD mindset rob you of enjoying one of the best console games in years. The game is beautiful and supremely playable and smooth on all platforms. Get out of this thread and enjoy it!

That's not entirely true. The framerate takes a severe dive when in heavy combat on PS3. The first dragon battle is a particular offender. The 360 version isn't the silky smooth athlete some of its proponents insist, but its smoother to the point that there's clear daylight between them. That it's sharper with the full complement of effects is much less of a reason to switch, especially given that its minor but occasionally notable screen tearing stops it from having a perfect scorecard over the PS3.

 

[inner-G]

I'm really torn GAF...do I get this on PS3 or PC?

Obviously the PC will have better graphics, but I've heard the interface is terrible.

On PS3, I'm worried about the framerate and controls being clunky on a controller.

Can I get some advice?

PC with a 360 controller.

 

[KeioSquad2]

That's not entirely true. The framerate takes a severe dive when in heavy combat on PS3. The first dragon battle is a particular offender. The 360 version isn't the silky smooth athlete some of its proponents insist, but its smoother to the point that there's clear daylight between them. That it's sharper with the full complement of effects is much less of a reason to switch, especially given that its minor but occasionally notable screen tearing stops it from having a perfect scorecard over the PS3.

This is bull shit, I didn't experience any severe slowdown on the first dragon, or any battle that I have encountered thus far. Not to sound arrogant, but I think your exaggerating.

 

[bonesmccoy]

The framerate takes a severe dive when in heavy combat on PS3. The first dragon battle is a particular offender.

I don't have this problem. In fact, I've not experienced any slowdowns apart from the staircase at the very start.

I have had 3-4 freezes on the loading screen.