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The ending of Jurassic Park: The Lost World is patently absurd.
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Wafflecakes
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That was the worst moment of the movie for me. It makes no sense at all.
I was seven when the film came out and even back then I thought the gymnastics was bullshit.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Don't watch the Blu-Ray BTS.
Speilberg basically says "I wasn't going to come back for a third, so I said fuck it".
It breaks your heart to hear your hero audibly confirm that he's going to tank the movie just to get his rocks off. I mean, this guy knows better.
The man's friends with Lucas, the ultimate "fuck my audience, I do what I want!" director. It should not be that surprising.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
I realize I posted the same thing in this thread.
lol
I should go to bed. But I won't. I'll continue posting on the internet.
All it would have taken was a short scene of finding some dead guy with a shotgun laying in front of a shot Raptor and everything would've made the least bit of sense.
Wasn't there a stowaway raptor that sneaked on?
Gambit 1138
Banned
It's called The Lost World: Jurassic Park
which is also dumb
crazy monkey
Banned
I loved 100% of the movie including ending. I never had issue with gymnastics either actually i remember clapping in theater in that scene.
I am very big fan of first two movies so bias thoughts.
I am very big fan of first two movies so bias thoughts.
wookieofdoom
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Oh my goodness this is probably Spielberg's worst movie. It's so obvious he was only directing it because of contractual obligation so the studio would fund Schindler's List. It's so bad. It has one good scene, the trailer dangling over the edge of a cliff but the rest of the movie is crap. Not even going to discuss battling raptors with gymnastics, that's almost okay by the rest of the movie's standards. But man, that third act. It really goes from crazy to outright idiocy. First off, Vince Vaughn's character just disappears. Never seen again. And then, when the barge shows up and no one is responding they go out to investigate. What could have happened? The t-rex was secure in the holding bay bound by chains! But alas, they go into the cabin only to find a dangling arm holding the wheel. The bridge, mind you, is tiny. There is no sign of forced exterior damage. There is no blood other than a little bit on the arm. How the crap did the t-rex manage to fit it's giant noggin inside this tiny compartment, slurp up the helmsmen without causing any damage and leave the dude's arm still hanging onto the wheel? Oh, but it gets dumber from there. Suddenly, our heroes hear an alarming crashing sound coming from the bay doors that are holding the t-rex inside! As they turn, they see an alarming sight: the doors are crashing together, struggling to keep their contents from escaping. After a few more solid hits, the doors are forced open and the t-rex emerges from within the bowels of the carrier! Sigh. So, you mean to tell me, Mr. Spielberg, that the t-rex escaped before the barge docked, ate everyone, and then crawled back into it's holding pit where it trapped itself. Really?
This is just one example of how dumb this movie is. Never mind Julianne Moore's character being an animal behavioral expert and warning everyone to not interact with the dinosaurs....only to immediately try and pet some stegosauruses and run off with a wounded baby t-rex. Which left a trail of blood everywhere. That she even acknowledges at one point. Gah.
Well, we did get Schindler's List out of it, and that's an absolute masterpiece. So if Spielberg had to slum it for one movie to bring us that...well, so be it.
This is just one example of how dumb this movie is. Never mind Julianne Moore's character being an animal behavioral expert and warning everyone to not interact with the dinosaurs....only to immediately try and pet some stegosauruses and run off with a wounded baby t-rex. Which left a trail of blood everywhere. That she even acknowledges at one point. Gah.
Well, we did get Schindler's List out of it, and that's an absolute masterpiece. So if Spielberg had to slum it for one movie to bring us that...well, so be it.
Gambit 1138
Banned
I agree. The Novel is just called The Lost World but they slapped on the JP name because the Studio felt people needed to be told that it was a sequel to Jurassic Park (because people are stupid and the logo, trailers, and commercials wouldn't tell people this).
Livingskeletons
If I pulled that off, would you die?
Nah 1941 is Spielbergs worst movie, followed by Hook.
Gambit 1138
Banned
The Lost World
Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
Empire of the Sun
The Color Purple
A.I.
Spielberg is a very hit/miss direct especially Post-JP
Discotheque
Banned
what garbage opinions lmao
I've never understood the complaint about the boat crashing. So many people lament how movies have to spell everything out for the viewer. Yet, there are any number of different reasons how the crew could have been killed on the boat -- none of which involve the fucking T-Rex. How anyone could watch that whole sequence play out -- assuming it was the Rex that did everything and somehow locked itself back in the hold of the ship and then come out thirsty and hungry as hell because of the tranquilizer and booster shots it was given -- is amazingly contrived. Raptors, pteranodons, sea faring dinosaurs or any number of other ideas make much more sense. Fact is, we don't need to know how they were killed.
Anton Sugar
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Artificial Intelligence is fantastic. Vastly underappreciated and has a bad rap.
What? Why don't we? It's the entire reason why the boat crashed and the Rex escapes.
This is like saying "we don't need to know how the park loses power" in Jurassic Park.
What? Why don't we? It's the entire reason why the boat crashed and the Rex escapes.
This is like saying "we don't need to know how the park loses power" in Jurassic Park.
I hate how the raptor "long grass" scene just kind of happens with no set up or tension. The characters are in an action scene running from the Trex into the waterfall to hide, dude gets eaten and literally the next scene they are walking into the grass and in about 10 seconds the raptors are on them. There's no transition or anything at all it's like Spielberg went "okay time for the raptor scene now I guess."
And don't get me started on the overly long Trex attack on the trailer, where they seem to come and go from the area dictated only by the script instead of any kind of internal logic.
Just really bad pacing all around. I don't mind the San Diego scene so much in comparison, at least it knows what it is and doesn't take itself too seriously like the rest of the movie.
And don't get me started on the overly long Trex attack on the trailer, where they seem to come and go from the area dictated only by the script instead of any kind of internal logic.
Just really bad pacing all around. I don't mind the San Diego scene so much in comparison, at least it knows what it is and doesn't take itself too seriously like the rest of the movie.
Anton Sugar
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Yup--I noticed both these things a lot more when rewatching the series the other week. The "long grass" scene was so cool in my mind, but it's really just cool in concept. You get the torpedo shot (which IS great), then pandemonium, then the raptors clear the area(?) so the heroes can run through, and then we travel to the Buster Keaton center where the raptors put on a funny show.
Similar for the Rex scene. The tension is frequently undercut by the script and its lack of logic (and poor dialogue).
You mean Jurassic "Clever Girls" World?
Warm Machine
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The whole movie is missing pieces. The trailer going over the cliff scene needed a shot from the high hide of the T-Rex's going in so that those characters could be made aware. Then as the T-rex's leave dude thinks it is safe so he heads to the car to help. However the rear lights of the vehicle make the T-Rex's aware again and follow him back. As it is, it feels really confusing as to why the T-Rex's bother to go back to the trailer.
Also, the 4 going in should have been made aware InGen was coming shortly after them to set up a race against the clock.
Anton Sugar
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Suspected it's the baby. I think a few official sources referred to it as juvenile, although it's just a repainted Rex model from the other movies.
The book sucked too, in different ways. But I agree, the carnotaur scene is very cool and I'm surprised they never did something in any of the sequels with it (aside from I guess the nod in JPIII.)
shadowsdarknes
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I was hoping that Indominus was going to be ~50% bigger than a T-Rex They looked roughly the same size.. A fight where two T-Rex vs Indominus would have been really sweet.
Also, the final fight should not have been at night. I'd have rather seen a daytime fight.
Also, the final fight should not have been at night. I'd have rather seen a daytime fight.
Anton Sugar
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I would have loved for TLW to actually follow the idea of studying feral animal/dino behavior. I really wanted to see that feral raptor nest...
TheJollyCorner
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This is the best way to sum it up. Frankly, it seemed sort of like a logical step for the sequel and I'm surprised more of it wasn't set in the city (and that future sequels never did it).
How many times can you rehash a bunch of humans getting shanghaied on some tropical island with dinosaurs before taking the logical step of bringing the dinosaurs to the humans?
Anton Sugar
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I mean, The Lost World kinda fucked that idea right up. At least JP/JW, the owners can say "and if anything goes wrong, it's on an island in the ocean!"
I mentioned it in another thread, but I'd rather they do something interesting that just another monster-esque movie. Jump 50-100 years in the future--certain species of dinosaurs have been reintroduced into the wild after years of behavioral studies. Like, I don't know--some kind of wolf has been hunted to extinction and their place in the ecosystem needs to be filled by small predators that go after the same prey, live in the same kind of habitat, etc. and do something interesting with that!
If there was, there was never any foreshadowing or scene that said so. There should have been though. Have a brief skirmish, maybe from the point of view of the raptor(s) sneaking aboard and then cutting just as it ambushes someone while they're out at sea.
Anton Sugar
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They were supposed to film raptors aboard the ship, but ran out of time.
You hear that? They had time to choreograph, stage, and film Kelly's gymnastics scene, but not enough time for raptors on the boat.
You hear that? They had time to choreograph, stage, and film Kelly's gymnastics scene, but not enough time for raptors on the boat.
Replace the cityscape with the theme park and you've got a pretty spot on comparison to the ending of Jurassic World.
That said, I thought this was a Jurassic World thread too. I'm not as mad at Lost World as I was before now that someone's explained the whole boat thing to me.
weekend_warrior
Banned
It was a terrible movie all-around. JPIII was much better.
super-heated plasma
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The one thing that bugged me about the first Jurassic Park, was the T-Rex attack, and how Grant and the girl repelled down the other side of the wall as the T-Rex knocks the jeep into the tops of trees down below....
The problem is that is the same spot the T-Rex busted through the fence after eating a goat that was on ground that is almost level with the jeeps on the other side. How does it go to even ground in one scene and the next a steep drop off a concrete wall high above the trees? I love that scene but it bothers me when I watch that.
The problem is that is the same spot the T-Rex busted through the fence after eating a goat that was on ground that is almost level with the jeeps on the other side. How does it go to even ground in one scene and the next a steep drop off a concrete wall high above the trees? I love that scene but it bothers me when I watch that.
BlackGoku03
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I don't know why koepp had to deviate from the book so much. Read the book, it's much better.
Even as a kid I knew this was dumb. I've always questioned that scene.
godhandiscen
There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
The ending of Jurassic World is worse.
the first time i saw that movie in the cinema, i thought it was going to end when they got in the helicopters and got away from the island and i thought the caught T-Rex would be used in a sequel.
when the san diego part happened, it felt so out of place. as if someone stuck part of a different movie at the end.
Nope. It's awesome.
Discotheque
Banned
this is true.
jurassic park > the lost world > jurassic world > 3
i don't understand david koepp's career though. he has some awesome movies on his list but also some real pieces of crap.
crisdecuba
Member
NO. The Jurassic World ending is GREAT.
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
Saw The Lost World in theaters.. thought it was pretty bad then. Just watched all the clips on Youtube from movieclips and im going to stick with my original reaction. Its like a direct to video production in nearly every way.
JP1 was good but it was too much into itself as a special effects extravaganza. While it was awesome in the theaters (a friend of mine tried to get me to go see Sidekicks in the theaters instead of JP lol) rewatching JP1 is a chore.
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i like how in those 10-15 minutes of clips the T-rex looks into a window at least a dozen times.
JP1 was good but it was too much into itself as a special effects extravaganza. While it was awesome in the theaters (a friend of mine tried to get me to go see Sidekicks in the theaters instead of JP lol) rewatching JP1 is a chore.
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i like how in those 10-15 minutes of clips the T-rex looks into a window at least a dozen times.
A lot of scenes in TLW went on for too long. I think the worst was the death of the guy that shocked the small dinosaurs. I mean, they got him, he got them off him, they chased him, got him again, he escaped again...
Anton Sugar
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Yeah, that scene dragged, too.
That scene was tormenting for me to watch as a kid. They just kept fucking with him over and over and over and over again until they just take him out with a river of blood.
but then you'd ask "if they have tech to clone a 65 million old extinct animal, can't they just clone the wolf instead?"
wookieofdoom
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Forgot about A.I. That movie is just the pits.
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