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The Evil Within is the best Silent Hill game in years
- Thread starter sn00zer
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As much as I love Mikami...I have to agree here. Oddly enough, I still like this game!
Yeah, I guess it was wrong for me to have such high expectations, as it was one of my most anticipated games last year.
Overall I enjoyed it too, but yeah, it had a lot of glaring issues.
Projectjustice
Banned
The game was fun to play in normal environments but when the game starts to throw you around in these weird scenarios it's not even scary anymore. It's more like wtf is this shit?!
cj_iwakura
Member
Shadows of the Damned did it better, IMO. Evil Within has a massive identity crisis problem. It can't decide if it wants to be RE or SH.
Rain City Gamer
Member
I was a fan of the game and I definitely agree with you on the Silent Hill comparison just because of the psychological horror and mind trip scenarios. But gameplay is definitely more on the RE4 side as many are saying.
It's funny that you referenced The Cell because I also reference it in my review of the game haha
Full review if you care to read
http://raincitygamers.com/game-review/the-evil-within-review/
It's funny that you referenced The Cell because I also reference it in my review of the game haha
Full review if you care to read
http://raincitygamers.com/game-review/the-evil-within-review/
To be honest, that just shows how fucking terrible Silent Hill has been. This is nothing like Silent Hill, or at least nothing like what Silent Hill should be.
I actually like Homecoming. It was pretty good.
It has its charms, yeah. Not as good as RE, imo, but it has some very nice encounters in the first half.
I actually like Homecoming. It was pretty good.
It has its charms, yeah. Not as good as RE, imo, but it has some very nice encounters in the first half.
randomengine
Banned
From both a Resident Evil fan and a Silent Hill fan, I get exactly what you are saying OP. The Evil Within is a perfect amalgamation of both franchises.
There are just a lot of people here who are way too literal about things and have little imagination. The comparison makes sense.
The safe room you go to throughout the game reminds me a lot of The Room in Silent Hill. The music and imagery is more Silent Hill than Resident Evil. In terms of gameplay, it feels more like Resident Evil and that is OK. You have the Safe Head->Pyramid Head comparisons. The hell-world kind of imagery is there. The times you keep going downwards as if descending into hell.
There are just a lot of people here who are way too literal about things and have little imagination. The comparison makes sense.
The safe room you go to throughout the game reminds me a lot of The Room in Silent Hill. The music and imagery is more Silent Hill than Resident Evil. In terms of gameplay, it feels more like Resident Evil and that is OK. You have the Safe Head->Pyramid Head comparisons. The hell-world kind of imagery is there. The times you keep going downwards as if descending into hell.
brandonh83
Banned
Agreed. I'm only on chapter 10, actually my first time through it and holy shit if Silent Hill were a straight up psychological action thriller, this would be it. Unfortunately too many can't open up to such a concept but I'm totally feeling it.
randomengine
Banned
You know, if you are merely measuring a comparison based on the gameplay, then let's be fair, Shattered Memories isn't a Silent Hill game either.
boredandlazy
Member
If true this is an indictment on Silent Hill.
I though Evil Within was ok, but it dragged for too long. Unfortunately I though the best part of the game was in it's first third.
I though Evil Within was ok, but it dragged for too long. Unfortunately I though the best part of the game was in it's first third.
The invisible enemies.
randomengine
Banned
Is complaining about games having too much content a thing now? I would agree if a game dragged out its gameplay through repetition, but I never saw it. Each chapter is unique and plays very differently from gameplay mechanics to setting/feel. It was as good, to me, as the Resident Evil 4 theme park. It never overstayed its welcome.
CaptainGyro
Banned
haha
This is Silent Hill - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BttTwi-ZUc
Evil Within has nothing on Silent Hill. Akira Yamoka is that damn good.
Evil Within has nothing on Silent Hill. Akira Yamoka is that damn good.
Took the words out of my mouth.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
"feels like Silent Hill"
"about 7 hours in"
should we tell about the RE5 action game later chapters or nah
"about 7 hours in"
should we tell about the RE5 action game later chapters or nah
Terareflection
Member
I disagree. TEW isn't better or worse than RE4. It's just a little different and it kinda runs worse, but that's veering off topic.
I do agree that it does try to be Silent Hill but fails pretty hard, meanwhile it shines at being Resident Evil.
randomengine
Banned
What makes The Evil Within a Silent Hill games, in addition to a Resident Evil game is the dread. I completed chapters 3-4 on my own, with no help. I couldn't go on. I was getting too scared, so I continued with a walkthrough. That got me to Chapter 11, but after that point and the numerous chase and amazingly scary set-pieces, even the walkthrough failed me. I broke down. I tapped out. I gave up.
I finished the rest of the game on a Longplay.
I have played and beat almost all the Resident Evil games and this is the first time I have ever had to stop playing because I was too scared. That is the Silent Hill influence because that is the only series that does that to me.
I finished the rest of the game on a Longplay.
I have played and beat almost all the Resident Evil games and this is the first time I have ever had to stop playing because I was too scared. That is the Silent Hill influence because that is the only series that does that to me.
RE4 yes, absolutely, a must play, although you may want to wait a bit, and by bit I mean maybe a year until the fan HD re-texture project gets completed to spruce up those old graphics.
The Evil Within, well maybe if you have nothing else to play. It has its moments occasionally but they are too few and far between a lot of "meh" moments for me.
If only it was as good as RE5, then I wouldn't hate it, even if the change in tone would be somewhat disappointing.
Game's great up to chapter 6 or something, then it goes to shit.
Chapter 10 is pretty damn good though, and I really like most boss fights.
Leafhopper
Banned
This is basically what you are saying sn00zer.
boredandlazy
Member
I have no issue with long games. The Evil Within just didn't hold my interest, so the last third or so dragged on and felt like a chore to play through.
randomengine
Banned
I actually found myself loving the gunplay a lot and even the stealth, which I was initially terrible at. I plan to go through the game with god mode and infinite ammo sometime in the future - my god it would be so cathartic.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
I know you are fan of this game but you are not selling this with the "totally like a combination of Resident Evil and Silent Hill".
randomengine
Banned
I am not trying to convince anyone of something so obvious. I am merely putting my opinion out there.
Nocturno999
Member
It was definitely a better horror game.
Leafhopper
Banned
Did you even read this thread?
randomengine
Banned
Yeah it has been basically "It's not a Silent Hill game" ad nauseum. Whatever. If Shattered Memories can be a Silent Hill game (and it was by definition) then so can The Evil Within.
Yeah. It's people actually discussing the idea rather than outright rejecting it because "The Evil Within" is not the same words as "Silent Hill". Even if they disagree with the assertion, they're comparing the games based on more than the titles alone.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
Dude, there is like 3 people that actually are taking this idea seriously.
RedAssedApe
Banned
You meant best Resident Evil game in years.
randomengine
Banned
I was actually going to start this thread if someone else wasn't.
randomengine
Banned
Leafhopper
Banned
Eh, I guess so. I still think it was more post RE4 than anything else. I see where you come from though.
A majority of the thread isn't even taking this notion seriously, from what I see.
brandonh83
Banned
Apples and oranges. OP is just trying to say that Evil Within is a mix of Silent Hill's weird psychological aspects and Resident Evil 4's action oriented gameplay, which I completely agree with having finally played it myself. It's really not that difficult to grasp.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
If we go by that, then there is a large list of weird Eastern European games that are better Silent Hill games
But there is a ton of games that are closer to Silent Hill. The OP should named the thread "Silent Hill+ResidentEvil=EvilWhitin" if he just wanted to make that point.
brandonh83
Banned
Such as? I'd love to play them is why I'm asking, considering how good Evil Within is at being psychologically driven like Silent Hill. I'm just asking for quality though, rather than loose comparisons which that's exactly what I'm bound to get.
Probably but uh... I mean I think that's what OP is saying, that TEW is like a mixture of those things you just mentioned. I don't think anyone is arguing otherwise.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
Pathologic Is the first thing that comes in my mind... Not that much psychological exploration of a single character but mood wise (thought if you consider the city a character by itself...)
Fahzgoolin
Banned
Silent Hill is nothing like Evil Within? Maybe the later titles, which hardly anyone likes...
I'm confused.
I'm confused.
randomengine
Banned
brandonh83
Banned
No one thinks this is a straight up Silent Hill game but rather that it is an action game with psychological horror elements ala Silent Hill. There's a pretty big difference and while playing through Evil Within recently I have felt as though I were playing RE4 but in some loose Silent Hill trappings, which is one of many reasons why I think it's a great game.
randomengine
Banned
There is a difference between gameplay and setting/mood. The Evil Within has the same setting/mood as Silent Hill, but with Resident Evil gameplay. I don't understand why it is such a difficult concept to grasp. Silent Hill is defined more by its setting/mood than its gameplay. Nobody raves about the gameplay in any of those games. The controls were clunky, plodding and unresponsive. What was important about Silent Hill was the setting/mood, which The Evil Within emulates beautifully.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
You consider Pathologic better than The Evil Within?
Man, you are really fighting that fight...
But no, didn't say that...