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The Expendables 2 |OT| Track 'em, find 'em, kill 'em.

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GrayFoxPL said:
Can't wait for this shit.
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He truly is a badass in that movie.
 
did they ever say why Mickey Rourke isnt in this ?
 
Strafer said:
Oh shit!

http://www.empireonline.com/reviews/reviewcomplete.asp?FID=137367
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Could have described the first film. Which I liked.

People need to remember the first film already had dodgy CGI like the flaming trench and Stone Cold Steve.

I just don't like the sound of the love interest. Reminds me of The Losers or Machete when young slim women would clamber over the pock-marked bodies of men old enough to be their grandfathers. Just makes me think the characters have daddy issues and diminishes them.
 
Sounds like it's a hair better than the first film, judging from some more UK reviews:

"A terrible film" - Bleeding Cool - http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/08/12/the-expendables-2-the-bleeding-cool-review/

2.5 out of 5 stars - What Culture - http://whatculture.com/film/the-expendables-2-review-a-disappointing-misfire.php

3 out of 5 stars - Hey U Guys - http://www.heyuguys.co.uk/2012/08/13/the-expendables-2-review/

3 out of 5 stars - Digital Spy - http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/re...dables-2-review-arnie-is-definitely-back.html

3 out of 5 stars - Filmoria - http://www.filmoria.co.uk/2012/08/film-review-the-expendables-2/

"There’s a level of brutal, boring stupidity here that makes The A-Team look like it was written by Sun Tzu. " - Flick Filosopher http://www.flickfilosopher.com/blog/2012/08/the_expendables_2_review.html

2 out of 5 stars - Flickering Myth - http://www.flickeringmyth.com/2012/08/movie-review-expendables-2-2012.html
 
From one of those reviews:
But if you want to see fist-sized holes blown through a seemingly inexhaustible supply of faceless goons, get yourself to an Expendables 2 screening, stat.
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So its everything we hoped it would be! Sounds perfect.
 
Scullibundo said:
No. It means they shot it with the intention of releasing it as a PG13 film and then got a huge amount of backlash from the audience that these movies are suppose to be targeting for selling out. In response we will get a whole bunch of awkwardly ADR'd swear words and CGI blood.
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Is this a first for ADR'ing swears into a film to get a Restricted rating?
 
All the reviews make it sound as if they still didn't get it quite right.

Here's hoping for part 3... well, won't happen, probably.
 
DoctorWho said:
Is this a first for ADR'ing swears into a film to get a Restricted rating?
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Hes making assumptions. Die Hard 4 did it though for it's Uncut DVD/Bluray release. Lot of movies nowadays film both dialogue scenes for TV edits.

As for gore, it's pretty silly to assume since the first movie was filmed fo R from the beginning and was almost completely all CG blood and gore, obviously the sequel will be doing mostly the same. Even the gory 4th Rambo was packed with CG gore/blood

Mengy said:
Actually, that review makes it sound like exactly what I am expecting and exactly what I want it to be, heh. He may not have liked it, but to me that's a glowing review! LOL
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Expendables is emulating 80's action movies, which generally were always badly received by critics. Even though so many fond memories from fans, most of these movies were panned in their time too and truly one can't say they were really good movies, but we loved em
 
For some reason I can't enjoy movies where someone died during the production.

Happened with XXX (stuntman) and it's the same with this movie (also a stuntman).

I guess I will pass.
 
See, what I love about bad action flicks like this is, critics just don't get it at all. One of those reviews complain about how little of it made sense, or how it's all dumb, loud action. That's kind of the point.

Seriously, if this movie had 0% on Rotten Tomatoes, I am still there day one. Hell, even the first Expendables was one of my favorite movie theater experiences despite being utter shit. All I want is lots of fucking blood and explosions, with the occasional dumb one liner.

And I am a graduate student getting their Masters in film, and according to everybody I've met, I'm only supposed to enjoy artsy dramas and sophisticated comedies.
 
Its all good.....lower expectations = Good movie

Unless this movie was done 20 years ago i dont think it could of been any better
and my 14 year old self (im 36 now) is already happy just to see the names on the movie poster so bring it
 
modulaire said:
For some reason I can't enjoy movies where someone died during the production.

Happened with XXX (stuntman) and it's the same with this movie (also a stuntman).

I guess I will pass.
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The Mana Legend said:
See, what I love about bad action flicks like this is, critics just don't get it at all. One of those reviews complain about how little of it made sense, or how it's all dumb, loud action. That's kind of the point.

Seriously, if this movie had 0% on Rotten Tomatoes, I am still there day one. Hell, even the first Expendables was one of my favorite movie theater experiences despite being utter shit. All I want is lots of fucking blood and explosions, with the occasional dumb one liner.

And I am a graduate student getting their Masters in film, and according to everybody I've met, I'm only supposed to enjoy artsy dramas and sophisticated comedies.
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Right in line with how I feel. Regarding the first one, I went with my cousin who is about the same age as me and we ate it up.

How can anyone be surprised that the movie is full of cliches, loud and mostly dumb.

Anyone reflecting on the genre for the last 30 years is only looking at the diamonds (Die Hard, Predator, First Blood Part 2, Bloodsport) and forgetting the extended list of duds that were made. And I am looking beyond the Raw Deals, the Cobras, the Striking Distances and the Sudden Deaths. I'm looking at the Rapid Fires and the Street Knights and the Blind Furys. Theres a lot more bad than good. So to come to Expendables or its sequel and expect another Terminator 2 is not looking at the odds. These are not good movies but we love them.

20 years ago I was on the Q60 bus with my friends going to watch whatever crap these knuckleheads put out. I'm doing the same thing this Friday..same friends same knuckleheads. This movie is review proof for me. And every time someone like Plainview swings in here, playing the role of the wet blanket, I dont get worried about the quality of the movie, I think about how soft their childhood must have been.
 
Live Free or Die said:
I would like to know that too.
It was just a rumor and the internet went wild with it blaming Chuck Norris. It was always rated R.
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Stallone himself had said something about it confirming the movie was going to be pg-13, I think it was on aint it cool news. But it's never been confirmed that the movie was filmed specifically for PG-13 in the first place as this all came out after filming of the movie was done. The first movie had pretty much all it's gore done via CG so it's probably to be expected here as well for the most part. The biggest issue if anything will be if they are going to dub overs for the naughty language.
 
BattleMonkey said:
Stallone himself had said something about it confirming the movie was going to be pg-13, I think it was on aint it cool news. But it's never been confirmed that the movie was filmed specifically for PG-13 in the first place as this all came out after filming of the movie was done.
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From everything I read this is 100% correct. I have never read a quote or an article that says they SHOT it for PG-13. Stallone stated on AICN that it was going to receive that rating and Terry Crews spent a day on Twitter trying to calm everyone down by saying that even though its PG-13 it still had a ton of action.
 
The Mana Legend said:
See, what I love about bad action flicks like this is, critics just don't get it at all. One of those reviews complain about how little of it made sense, or how it's all dumb, loud action. That's kind of the point.

Seriously, if this movie had 0% on Rotten Tomatoes, I am still there day one. Hell, even the first Expendables was one of my favorite movie theater experiences despite being utter shit. All I want is lots of fucking blood and explosions, with the occasional dumb one liner.

And I am a graduate student getting their Masters in film, and according to everybody I've met, I'm only supposed to enjoy artsy dramas and sophisticated comedies.
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Exactly.
 
The Mana Legend said:
See, what I love about bad action flicks like this is, critics just don't get it at all. One of those reviews complain about how little of it made sense, or how it's all dumb, loud action. That's kind of the point.

Seriously, if this movie had 0% on Rotten Tomatoes, I am still there day one. Hell, even the first Expendables was one of my favorite movie theater experiences despite being utter shit. All I want is lots of fucking blood and explosions, with the occasional dumb one liner.

And I am a graduate student getting their Masters in film, and according to everybody I've met, I'm only supposed to enjoy artsy dramas and sophisticated comedies.
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Your film friends sound like my film friends. Sigh.
 
The Mana Legend said:
See, what I love about bad action flicks like this is, critics just don't get it at all. One of those reviews complain about how little of it made sense, or how it's all dumb, loud action. That's kind of the point.

Seriously, if this movie had 0% on Rotten Tomatoes, I am still there day one. Hell, even the first Expendables was one of my favorite movie theater experiences despite being utter shit. All I want is lots of fucking blood and explosions, with the occasional dumb one liner.

And I am a graduate student getting their Masters in film, and according to everybody I've met, I'm only supposed to enjoy artsy dramas and sophisticated comedies.
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This applies to many many people on GAF too.

My mum and her brother was in London today and didn't realise the premiere was happening, so they wondered over (as far as you can get) to take pictures and stuff. Was pretty cool. They said Dolph was incredibly nice as he went over to disabled kids to talk to them and sign stuff. Others like Arnold just briskly walked off ignoring most people. :lol
 
The Mana Legend said:
See, what I love about bad action flicks like this is, critics just don't get it at all. One of those reviews complain about how little of it made sense, or how it's all dumb, loud action. That's kind of the point.

Seriously, if this movie had 0% on Rotten Tomatoes, I am still there day one. Hell, even the first Expendables was one of my favorite movie theater experiences despite being utter shit. All I want is lots of fucking blood and explosions, with the occasional dumb one liner.

And I am a graduate student getting their Masters in film, and according to everybody I've met, I'm only supposed to enjoy artsy dramas and sophisticated comedies.
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Seriously, critics are really bad with over-the-top action movies like this. They miss the point completely. Here's an excerpt from NY Times "top critic" review of Commando:

The big battle scenes are especially disappointing. Matrix's demolition of the army barracks on the island is spectacular, but he has obviously not had time to plant all those explosives.

why a man who has just taken three slugs in his chest should scream at the prospect of falling off a roof is not imaginable. Finally, all the killing, and it seems endless, is too graphic for this kind of highly stylized film; after a while it looks as unreal as it is and becomes merely disgusting.
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At that point in the movie, every action fan and normal person was excitedly screaming out "Holy shit Arnie is taking out an entire army! Fucking awesome!" but these critics nitpick and complain about stupid shit like his character not having time to plant all the explosives.

Certain types of movies you can tell critics will shit on it no matter what.
 
Friend saw the premiere. Her taste in movies is usually good and matches mine.

"It was pretty badass! Lots of action, and the plot wasn't anything original or spectacular, but the actors were funny."

That's all I want to hear. Excited!
 
I hope it's fun at least. The more Arnie it has the better it will be for me.

Strafer said:
First impressions at IMDB.

Not sure if serious.
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I wouldn't be surprised becuz it pretty much describes EX1.

shagg_187 said:
Shouldn't be a big problem though. If the movie is directed well, even PG-13 scenes can look brutal (aka Nolan). Adding CG blood and dubbing "fuck" in dialogues can't be that bad... right guys?

Guys?
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Yeah, I'm gonna ask him why human beings don't bleed in his bat-universe.
 
jett said:
Yeah, I'm gonna ask him why human beings don't bleed in his bat-universe.
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It's the same reason why no one eats or takes a shit or sleeps; except for Falafel (and even they get knocked the fuck out for eating it) and Alcohol (and they get killed for drinking it).

Best question to ask: how does Bane eat or drink? Straw? :P


jett said:
I hope it's fun at least. The more Arnie it has the better it will be for me.

I wouldn't be surprised becuz it pretty much describes EX1.
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As mentioned above: "It was pretty badass! Lots of action, and the plot wasn't anything original or spectacular, but the actors were funny."
 
shagg_187 said:
It's the same reason why no one eats or takes a shit or sleeps; except for Falafel (and even they get knocked the fuck out for eating it) and Alcohol (and they get killed for drinking it).

Best question to ask: how does Bane eat or drink? Straw? :P
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Intravenously
Also..your friends review is exactly what I want to hear. Fun and dumb!
 
The issue with Expendables 1 wasn't that it was not an "intelligent" movie, or "not realistic". As an action movie, it simply was badly and incompetently done: CG-supported, terribly filmed and edited action scenes, lame-ass dialogue, unfunny one liners, zero clue of how to build tension. And it couldn't decide whether it wanted to be a parody or keep a straight face.

Judging from the reviews of this one apparently they didn't learn much. Mainstream Hollywood action is dead simply because they don't have anyone who knows how to put it together anymore. They should be getting someone like Isaac Florentine or John Hyams, who have been doing fantastic, handmade action in the DTV space for years (and on shoestring budgets).
 
shagg_187 said:
Friend saw the premiere. Her taste in movies is usually good and matches mine.

"It was pretty badass! Lots of action, and the plot wasn't anything original or spectacular, but the actors were funny."

That's all I want to hear. Excited!
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Yep, that's all I want from this movie.
 
I dont agree with Munim at all. Most of the major set pieces in EX1 were great. The plane assault on the dock, the basement fight and the entire climax in the courtyard are very well shot ( ill give you the CG blood though, it looks bad). The only dud was the car chase which leads to the Jet Li vs. Dolph fight. Both parts were hard to follow and might have been a few notes too many. At that point of the movie we just wanted to get to the climax.
 
EX1 lacked in action really outside of the finale, way too much attempts at bad drama and comedy that fell flat. And the action was just badly edited and too much shakey cam (directors cut was better with less quick cuts) which apparently is not an issue with 2, which has more action and much more easily to see action. The dialogue and such? Yea well we will see.
 
The only scene I was looking forward to in EX1 was the church scene.

Seeing those three together, man it was awesome.

You're not going to start sucking each others dicks are you?
 
Ben Rawson-Jones
Digital Spy
It may be all brawn and no brain, but there's plenty to enjoy on a non-cerebral level here.
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Rich Phippen
Sky Movies
It sets out what it aims to achieve, and then blows it sky high.
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Emanuel Levy
EmanuelLevy.Com
The sequel is one notch above the 2010 sleeper actioner due to the more skillful direction of Simon West (replacing Stallone), addition of younger and female characters, and some humor in references to the aging stars' past.
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Tim Grierson
Screen International
"The Expendables 2" is imposingly violent, dramatically clunky, and more than a bit cynically conceived -- and, despite all of that, it's also shamelessly entertaining.
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Edward Douglas
ComingSoon.net
Significantly better than the first movie, offering enough back to basics action entertainment to make it well worth the price of admission.
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Justin Lowe
Hollywood Reporter
Top Critic
Taut, humorous and attractively packaged, the sequel is both fleet footed and engaging enough to captivate audiences with more than just nonstop action.
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Justin Chang
Variety
Top Critic
Redundant, bombastic and cheekily self-aware, The Expendables 2 is also savvy enough to supply its own auto-critique.
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Jim Vejvoda
IGN Movies
The action lover's dream team doesn't disappoint in The Expendables 2, a sequel that's bigger, bolder and more badass than the original.
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Rob Carnevale
The List
At its best, The Expendables 2 thrives on the camaraderie that exists between the various action icons, while dropping in cheesy gags that reference their back catalogue.
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John Semley
Slant Magazine
It plays out like a series wet-dream scenarios, performed by a cast of vintage action figures battered and broken from overuse, bleached and slightly molted from sitting in the sun too long.
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Stefan Pape
HeyUGuys
From a critical mindset, it's a quite terrible piece of film making. However, the fact that everybody involved is aware that the film is bad works as a real saving grace.
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Currently at 65% on RT.
 
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