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I'm with Wind and I have absolutely no regrets. Although, my calls are iffy at times. During long conversations, the other end sometimes fades out and then comes back after around 2-3 seconds (which is pretty annoying). But otherwise, it's pretty good.

Unlimited Calling
Unlimited Text
100MB of Data
Voice Mail
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$25
 
So after that bombshell, I'm likely stuck with robelus aren't I?

With Bell now paying 50 for 500mb 200min evenings after 6pm and wknds free. Unlimited texts.

Any recommendations?

Was thinking of switching to Mobilicity since I have a nexus 4, but I guess not now...
 
So after that bombshell, I'm likely stuck with robelus aren't I?

With Bell now paying 50 for 500mb 200min evenings after 6pm and wknds free. Unlimited texts.

Any recommendations?

Was thinking of switching to Mobilicity since I have a nexus 4, but I guess not now...

Best plan I've seen is Unlim nation wide, 200min US, unlim sms/mms, caller id, voice mail, 2gb data for $57 + tax at bell

edit; new or existing customers, no contact required, this is as of April.
 
Best plan I've seen is Unlim nation wide, 200min US, unlim sms/mms, caller id, voice mail, 2gb data for $57 + tax at bell

edit; new or existing customers, no contact required, this is as of April.

That's almost reasonable, considering it's Bell.

My contract ends early September. I'm hoping Koodo or Fido has their Xmas time promotions or something similar by then.
 
So after that bombshell, I'm likely stuck with robelus aren't I?

With Bell now paying 50 for 500mb 200min evenings after 6pm and wknds free. Unlimited texts.

Any recommendations?

Was thinking of switching to Mobilicity since I have a nexus 4, but I guess not now...

loving wind atm. not there phones. you could buy the iphone 5 off contract and use it on wind ( has to be the newest ones though)
 
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/story/2013/06/03/business-crtc-wireless.html

Looks like the CRTC is trying to eliminate 3 year contracts and cap huge overages. Although this articles doesn't really state how enforceable these policies are, or if they are just suggestions. Nor does it mention when they take effect. Sounds like it could be a step in the right direction. If they really wanted to help Canadians access reasonable wireless service they're still going to have to go a long ways towards making the market viable for competition from the new providers.
 
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/story/2013/06/03/business-crtc-wireless.html

Looks like the CRTC is trying to eliminate 3 year contracts and cap huge overages. Although this articles doesn't really state how enforceable these policies are, or if they are just suggestions. Nor does it mention when they take effect. Sounds like it could be a step in the right direction. If they really wanted to help Canadians access reasonable wireless service they're still going to have to go a long ways towards making the market viable for competition from the new providers.

They take place december 2nd 2013
 
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/story/2013/06/03/business-crtc-wireless.html

Looks like the CRTC is trying to eliminate 3 year contracts and cap huge overages. Although this articles doesn't really state how enforceable these policies are, or if they are just suggestions. Nor does it mention when they take effect. Sounds like it could be a step in the right direction. If they really wanted to help Canadians access reasonable wireless service they're still going to have to go a long ways towards making the market viable for competition from the new providers.

They take effect early December on new contracts. Existing ones are still boned.
 
I imagine Bell/Rogers/Telus are going to press hard on back to school sales this year so they can lock people into 3-year contracts.

The incumbents are not going to take these changes lightly.
 
So what's the deal with Speak Out's data? Weren't they supposed to be updating it come June or something? I really want to switch over to them from my current prepaid plan.
 
Wow. This sucks. My girlfriend cracked her Galaxy SIII's screen after only four days of having it. She's going to beg the Fido people to replace it but I can't see them doing it. Best bet is that they'll off her a refurb at a discount I imagine.
 
http://m.theglobeandmail.com/report...e-competition/article12595163/?service=mobile
Verizon Communications Inc. is looking at a move into Canada’s cellular telephone business, one of several possible new entrants whose arrival would salvage the federal government’s ambitions for a fourth wireless player across the country.

Ottawa, which is weighing alternatives as it seeks to preserve its plan for enhanced wireless competition, views Verizon as the most likely foreign option. Verizon has held exploratory talks with investors in Wind Mobile – one of two struggling new entrants in the wireless market – in recent weeks, but those discussions are still at an early stage. AT&T Corp. of the U.S., Vodafone Group Plc of Britain and Telenor Group of Norway are other names circulating within the telecommunications industry as possible investors, sources said.

Great now this happens after I sign up with Wind.
 
Best plan I've seen is Unlim nation wide, 200min US, unlim sms/mms, caller id, voice mail, 2gb data for $57 + tax at bell

edit; new or existing customers, no contact required, this is as of April.

This plan is still available in a few way shapes or forms, it might end up only being 1gb, but it is essentially the 63 plan minus 10% (56.7) Never seen the 200 min us ld though, that is definitely not in market nor is that part of the normal bell offerings, perhaps a dealer figured out a way to slide that on but it's not part of the normal plan.

If you guys are still trying to figure out what to look for, wait for july/aug. Phones always go on sale for back to school, but i'm hearing some buzz about some pretty gnarly plans so i am cautiously optimistic.
 
Seems really odd for CDMA provider to come into Canada considering we we jumped out of that so many years ago.

Unlike Wind, Verizon has lots of money. It depends whether the government would allow such a sale to create a real competitor to the Big 3.

Of course my $30/unlimited plan would be killed by a company like Verizon but then again they'd be able to upgrade Wind's network.
 
Speculation over the entry of Verizon Wireless into Canada’s telecom industry has picked up steam, as reports emerged that US telecom giant Verizon Communications is making a bid for WIND Mobile, and also holding discussions with Mobilicity.

According to reports, Verizon has valued WIND at $700 million.

In a research note released Wednesday, Desjardins Securities analyst Maher Yaghi said that Verizon’s entry into Canada would have a negative impact, and if true, would “mean a significant move that could disrupt the Canadian wireless market.”

Similarly, RBC analyst Drew McReynolds noted Verizon’s entry would be a “game changer,” having “negative implications for both the earnings and wireless valuation multiples” of Canada’s telecom incumbents.

Macqaurie Securities analyst Greg MacDonald estimated that the incumbents could suffer a loss of 1.5 million subscribers over the next five years were Verizon to enter Canada, which would amount to $4 billion in lost values.

The incumbents could also be set to lose Verizon’s 25 per cent contribution to the $1.5 billion available in roaming revenue in Canada, added MacDonald. At current multiples, this would result in a $2.5 billion loss.

“Overall, we believe a Verizon Canada scenario would result in value erosion of 5-10% for Canadian incumbent stocks,” MacDonald wrote.

Notably, in McReynolds’ estimation smaller wireless entities won’t be immune to the effects of a Verizon entry either. Regional providers such as MTS and Videotron will face earnings and valuation risks as well, he added.

Yaghi and his team added that an ongoing government review of spectrum, the results of which are expected Friday, would have a significant impact on Verizon’s ultimate decision. If the government holds incumbents Rogers, Bell, and TELUS to a strict spectrum threshold, “this would favour Verizon’s entry,” Yaghi said. Otherwise, the incumbents may look to outbid Verizon for WIND.

There are no details yet as to Verizon’s overall strategy if it were to enter the Canadian market. The company will face the same challenges that have faced other Canadian wireless providers in the past, noted McReynolds, as Verizon will need to build several more towers and establish more retail locations if they are to be successful north of the border.

Working in Verizon’s favour is the federal government’s ongoing effort to encourage a fourth national wireless carrier to come forward and compete with the incumbents. The government’s spectrum auction has been delayed until early 2014, and foreign ownership rules have been relaxed to allow foreign companies a stake in the telecom industry, as long as its market share doesn’t rise above 10 per cent.

News of the venture hit the Canadian carriers hard: at mid-morning, BCE shares had dropped 3% on the TSX, Rogers by 7% and TELUS by 6%.

http://money.ca.msn.com/investing/i...or-wind-mobile-bce-telus-rogers-shares-falter

Not sure if this will be a good thing, or will just result in 4 telecoms colluding. US Roaming(especially Data) included in all plans would be amazing though.
 
Ugh. I'd rather have a European telecom company enter the market than a US one.

Plus, if this sets a precedent, how long until the big 3 doll themselves up looking for a foreign takeover?
 
Shitty Verizon vs Shitty Robellus

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Not sure if this will be a good thing, or will just result in 4 telecoms colluding. US Roaming(especially Data) included in all plans would be amazing though.

Verizon should continue Wind's strategy of being cheaper than Robellus in order to establish themselves. They'd expand Wind's network and raise prices accordingly. Bye bye unlimited data.
 
Ugh. I'd rather have a European telecom company enter the market than a US one.

Plus, if this sets a precedent, how long until the big 3 doll themselves up looking for a foreign takeover?

The CRTC doesn't work on precedents. They've currently got rules blocking pretty much anyone from setting up shop in Canada, and they've got rules blocking foreigners from owning the big three. They decided that the big three got a little too lazy under those rules, so they allowed companies like Wind and Mobilicity to start up.

Wind and Mobilicity were failing due to the uphill fight, and no Canadian owners wanted to own them (and Wind's foreign backer was complaining that he was expected to bail out the company, but he wasn't allowed to own it), so the CRTC relaxed their rules and said that foreigners were allowed to buy into the Canadian market, but only so long as the company they buy is small, and has less than 10% marketshare when they do it.

Verizon is (probably) going to buy Wind and/or Mobilicity, which will get their foot in the door to Canada, and then they're (probably) going to put in the effort to build whichever company (likely renamed to "Verizon Canada") into a fourth big provider. Assuming that the CRTC gives the green light for this, because the CRTC's permission-of-the-day carries more weight than their rules do.
 
I'm with Wind and I have absolutely no regrets. Although, my calls are iffy at times. During long conversations, the other end sometimes fades out and then comes back after around 2-3 seconds (which is pretty annoying). But otherwise, it's pretty good.

Unlimited Calling
Unlimited Text
100MB of Data
Voice Mail
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$25

and I am blowing $50-$60 a month for the same with Bell. Signing up with them was a complete disaster
 
Okay, upon reading it. He's what I'm getting.

1) All contracts entered into after Dec 2, 2013 must comply with the new code
2) It must apply to all contracts my matter when they were entered no later then June 2, 2015

They are claiming they are going to get screwed if someone enters into a 3 year contract Dec 1st and new rules will take effect 18 months later.

Of course there are tons of way around this like

A) conforming to the new rules now
B) Just letting it slide for the people it would effect. They would more then make their money back on the subsidy in 18 months with the ridiculous rates they charge us anyway.
 
Okay, upon reading it. He's what I'm getting.

1) All contracts entered into after Dec 2, 2013 must comply with the new code
2) It must apply to all contracts my matter when they were entered no later then June 2, 2015

They are claiming they are going to get screwed if someone enters into a 3 year contract Dec 1st and new rules will take effect 18 months later.

Of course there are tons of way around this like

A) conforming to the new rules now
B) Just letting it slide for the people it would effect. They would more then make their money back on the subsidy in 18 months with the ridiculous rates they charge us anyway.
3 yr contracts forever. \o/

i am so glad i am on wind right now. at the same time i am so pissed of at the bid three. its just unfair.
 
and I am blowing $50-$60 a month for the same with Bell. Signing up with them was a complete disaster

If it helps, Winds data is awful, it's slow and spotty at best. Also their network coverage is embarrassing.

Plus 100mb of data is too small to even consider a data plan. If you have their "unlimited" data plan it follows the typical fair use policy which means it's either capped or even slower once you hit a certain threshold.

For me, paying $60 instead of $25 gives me so many better benefits that's it's worth the extra money. In the grand scheme of things unless I'm a poor student with a part time job (which I can understand being money conscious), I'd rather pay a little more for great coverage than pay $25 for awful coverage.
 
If it helps, Winds data is awful, it's slow and spotty at best. Also their network coverage is embarrassing.

Plus 100mb of data is too small to even consider a data plan. If you have their "unlimited" data plan it follows the typical fair use policy which means it's either capped or even slower once you hit a certain threshold.

It depends where you live and travel to but within city limits my Wind data is generally solid, I haven't had any issues. I think they throttle at 5GB, I'll never hit that.

Better than getting screwed over by the Big 3.
 
If it helps, Winds data is awful, it's slow and spotty at best. Also their network coverage is embarrassing.

Plus 100mb of data is too small to even consider a data plan. If you have their "unlimited" data plan it follows the typical fair use policy which means it's either capped or even slower once you hit a certain threshold.

For me, paying $60 instead of $25 gives me so many better benefits that's it's worth the extra money. In the grand scheme of things unless I'm a poor student with a part time job (which I can understand being money conscious), I'd rather pay a little more for great coverage than pay $25 for awful coverage.

The $50-$60 he was paying was for only 100mb of data. If he wanted a 5gb cap like Winds(minus wind just throttling you after you cross it instead of charging you overage fees) he'd have to pay way more then $60/month for that.

True the speeds aren't aren't anywhere the LTE speeds you can get from everyone else but it's well worth it if you're okay with getting slower data speeds and the coverage area works for you.

Wind is absolutely perfect for me. I get 6mbps and I'm covered everywhere I go minus that small stretch of the 401 between Guelph and Milton that isn't covered.
 
my wind plan covers almost everywhere ive gone.cept for Toronto general hospital, and a small stretch or road on the 407 westbound =/ (i was on the bus. never use my phone while driving)
 
I'm in Quebec.

I was with Rogers with my gf on a family plan. She uses her phone to call a *lot*, so we had this stupidly expensive plan for unlimted talk/text and 4 gigs of shared data.

It was costing us 200$/month.

Last week, I get a letter from Videotron with a promo. Essentially, their promo is 55$/month for

Unlimited Canada/US calling
Unlimited INTERNATIONAL texting
Caller ID
Voicemail
6 gigs of data

All of that for 55$ a month with absolutely no hidden fees. This is ridiculously low. As in it makes zero sense to stay with Rogers. We both paid the cancellation fee from Rogers (was 440 for me, 395 for her, we have 2 years left on the plans) and we will *still* come on top within a year and a half. The only hitch is that their network only supports up to HSPA+ and doesn't do LTE (which, honestly, isn't too big of a loss considering we tripled the data we can use a month).

Their coverage isn't the best, but it's still very good. I never lose reception in MTL and the suburbs and stuff, so it works out very nicely.

Oh and the best thing? Since we both transferred a line from Rogers, we get an extra 100$ credit. That essentially puts our phones (we both got Galaxy S4s) at 80$.

So...

Galaxy S4 for 80$
Crazy all inclusive plan for 55$ a month

Anybody in Quebec that can get coverage from Videotron should *definitely* swap right away. It's just ridiculous.
 
Wind data around me is slower than the big 3 but it doesn't really become noticeable to me. As far as browsing, maps, streaming music happens pretty seamlessly. YouTube takes a bit to load but I don't find it frustrating. I wouldn't be trying to do video chat over it though, the upload and latency is pretty bad.

I'm in the Edmonton area.
 
I just got the following ad banner:

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It links to this:

http://cwta.ca/wirelessfacts/

Which cites:

http://www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/publications/reports/rp130422.htm#a5

There's tons of reading and charts, but it basically boils down to "We charge less then the US so our rates are fine"

Also I think the data is a manipulated total crock.

for example

Level 3: 1,200 incoming & outgoing minutes per month, with 15% of outgoing minutes treated as long distance, full set of optional features, 300 text messages and 1 Gigabyte (GB) data usage per month

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Americans paying $146/month for that doesn't seem right.
 
I just got the following ad banner:

1GdW7Mi.jpg


It links to this:

http://cwta.ca/wirelessfacts/

Which cites:

http://www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/publications/reports/rp130422.htm#a5

There's tons of reading and charts, but it basically boils down to "We charge less then the US so our rates are fine"

Also I think the data is a manipulated total crock.

for example



lNpCzUp.jpg


Americans paying $146/month for that doesn't seem right.

Yeah that seems all screwed up to me too. Here in Canada we get unlimited everything thrown in EXCEPT data which is how you decide what you.re paying. Having some weird 1200 minutes and 300 text plan is just weird. The number seems a little high for us though. It's $85 on the big 3, and less on all the others.

Those U.S. numbers though... I can't believe they pay that much, I always thought the U.S. paid less than us.
 
Ok guys, this thread seems a bit confusing to navigate... But I am happy to announce my $70 dollar a month, 3 year contract with Rogers just ended this month.

To be honest I like my plan

iPhone 4 hardware

- 1000 minutes Long Distance across Canada
- 300 daytime
- After 5pm free and weekends
- Unlimited text (BUT DOES NOT INCLUDE MMS, video sharing etc, unless it is imessage to imessage of course)

- 6GB of data

But I also don't get the iPhone's superior digital voice mail... just the regular analog voice mail that I have to call and enter password etc.

Now I'd like to keep my iPhone, don't feel like spending any money on new hardware

And I am pretty much happy with everything I have already (6GB of data and free long distance across Canada is important to me)

Can someone recommend me a plan that is close to mine without of course being tied to a contract and paying $70 a month? is the OP's plan good for me?

I need it on iPhone and I need it to work in Toronto Metro, GTA, Tri-City (Cambridge-Kitchener-Waterloo-Guelph) and Vancouver, and greater Vancouver area. (yes I live in all of those places, throughout the year...I travel the country a lot)
 
Ok guys, this thread seems a bit confusing to navigate... But I am happy to announce my $70 dollar a month, 3 year contract with Rogers just ended this month.

To be honest I like my plan

iPhone 4 hardware

- 1000 minutes Long Distance across Canada
- 300 daytime
- After 5pm free and weekends
- Unlimited text (BUT DOES NOT INCLUDE MMS, video sharing etc, unless it is imessage to imessage of course)

- 6GB of data

But I also don't get the iPhone's superior digital voice mail... just the regular analog voice mail that I have to call and enter password etc.

Now I'd like to keep my iPhone, don't feel like spending any money on new hardware

And I am pretty much happy with everything I have already (6GB of data and free long distance across Canada is important to me)

Can someone recommend me a plan that is close to mine without of course being tied to a contract and paying $70 a month? is the OP's plan good for me?

I need it on iPhone and I need it to work in Toronto Metro, GTA, Tri-City (Cambridge-Kitchener-Waterloo-Guelph) and Vancouver, and greater Vancouver area. (yes I live in all of those places, throughout the year...I travel the country a lot)

Well I don't think your phone wil work with Wind, but someone here could correct me. After that you've got Public Mobile or Mobilicity, but again i'm not sure a Rogers' phone works with those guys.
 
Well I don't think your phone wil work with Wind, but someone here could correct me. After that you've got Public Mobile or Mobilicity, but again i'm not sure a Rogers' phone works with those guys.

His phone won't work with wind or mobilicity(which doesn't have service in kW anyway). He would need a new iPhone with aws to use wind.
 
I'm in Quebec.

I was with Rogers with my gf on a family plan. She uses her phone to call a *lot*, so we had this stupidly expensive plan for unlimted talk/text and 4 gigs of shared data.

It was costing us 200$/month.

Last week, I get a letter from Videotron with a promo. Essentially, their promo is 55$/month for

Unlimited Canada/US calling
Unlimited INTERNATIONAL texting
Caller ID
Voicemail
6 gigs of data

All of that for 55$ a month with absolutely no hidden fees. This is ridiculously low. As in it makes zero sense to stay with Rogers. We both paid the cancellation fee from Rogers (was 440 for me, 395 for her, we have 2 years left on the plans) and we will *still* come on top within a year and a half. The only hitch is that their network only supports up to HSPA+ and doesn't do LTE (which, honestly, isn't too big of a loss considering we tripled the data we can use a month).

Their coverage isn't the best, but it's still very good. I never lose reception in MTL and the suburbs and stuff, so it works out very nicely.

Oh and the best thing? Since we both transferred a line from Rogers, we get an extra 100$ credit. That essentially puts our phones (we both got Galaxy S4s) at 80$.

So...

Galaxy S4 for 80$
Crazy all inclusive plan for 55$ a month

Anybody in Quebec that can get coverage from Videotron should *definitely* swap right away. It's just ridiculous.

Videotron and rogers are going to share their LTE network next year or something. Can't wait for that. I'm with videotron, and combining their service with rogers' extra coverage sounds pretty good.
 
Well I don't think your phone wil work with Wind, but someone here could correct me. After that you've got Public Mobile or Mobilicity, but again i'm not sure a Rogers' phone works with those guys.

His phone won't work with wind or mobilicity(which doesn't have service in kW anyway). He would need a new iPhone with aws to use wind.

I guess it is (or it's not) worth to note that my phone is jailbroken on a 5.1.1 OS. etc.

I'm not sure that would even help with Wind, doubt it. and yeah if there's no Wind service in the KW area, then also is no good. Fack!! this sucks, maybe I should just stick to what I have now at 68.99 a month.
 
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