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But how would they even attack him, unless they can react to speedster level speeds?

I mean, if flash runs by me, I probably wouldn't notice until after he passed. So how do enemies even attack flash unless he's moving at a pace where enemies can keep track of him?
 
Reizo Ryuu said:
But how would they even attack him, unless they can react to speedster level speeds?

I mean, if flash runs by me, I probably wouldn't notice until after he passed. So how do enemies even attack flash unless he's moving at a pace where enemies can keep track of him?
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If three people shoot at him, he still has to dodge.
 
Joni said:
If three people shoot at him, he still has to dodge.
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Yes, but how would they shoot at him in the first place is what I'm saying? There is no way for a regular joe with a gun to even know where flash is, unless as mentioned before, he's been severely depowered and is moving at a much slower pace.
 
Reizo Ryuu said:
Yes, but how would they shoot at him in the first place is what I'm saying? There is no way for a regular joe with a gun to even know where flash is, unless as mentioned before, he's been severely depowered and is moving at a much slower pace.
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Or he stupidly arrives at the scene slow, then they start shooting where the lightning efffects are like Cold and Heatwave. It would be like a more grounded Dynasty Warriors. Also stuff like weapons with area of effect like the general did.
 
meh :/

We all know the rogues are a bit of nonsense, shooting at where the lightning is, while flash isn't actually there anymore, is just a bit crap.

I mean even if you go by the show, which is alreadly wildly inconsistent with his speed, you only have to look at the intro.
The part where barry saves the cyclist or where RF and flash are fighting in the past, makes it impossible for regular people to ever track where he is, it's always either PIS or depowering.
 
How could anyone think AO plays well judged against the other Arkham games?

ElectricMonk said:
So hey I just finished off The Flash season 1 as something fun to watch, what's the rough consensus on season 2? (If there is one of course)
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Pretty good, Barry has slowly gotten more incompetent at relationships.
 
I watched a bit of season 1 episode 1 last night, is it ever explained why Linda Park goes from being a television reporter doing live hits at a major event to a newspaper journalist working with Iris? That's a bit of a downgrade, no?
 
TheCowboyPoet said:
I watched a bit of season 1 episode 1 last night, is it ever explained why Linda Park goes from being a television reporter doing live hits at a major event to a newspaper journalist working with Iris? That's a bit of a downgrade, no?
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I believe the paper and TV station are all one thing. They both work in the same building and are able to interact but their jobs are separate with only Iris being on the newspaper/web side of things. The area where Zoom and Flash were this season is the stage they use for the TV broadcast I believe.

Now that I think about that entire place is rather small for what they're doing. Unless there are other areas, likely, they aren't showing due to having limited set space.
 
Ep 2 was a massive step up from the premiere, even if I'm afraid the show may be at risk of getting too out of whack with the time traveling stuff.
 
Effect said:
I believe the paper and TV station are all one thing. The both work in the same building and are able to interact but their jobs are separate with only Iris being on the newspaper/web side of things.
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Ah, that makes sense.
Now is it ever explained why she was a totally different
and older
person before Barry got hit by lightning?? :-\ :-/
 
TheCowboyPoet said:
Ah, that makes sense.
Now is it ever explained why she was a totally different
and older
person before Barry got hit by lightning?? :-\ :-/
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Hmm you're right. It's likely a pilot episode thing. The Flash pilot was filmed months before it got picked up for series I think. By the time they decided to use Linda Park they either forgot or just said screw it and casted someone else and decided to ignore what they did in the pilot. I don't think there is any acknowledgement of the change in the show.

Edit:

This is her in the pilot.

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No newspaper office is going to be on the ground floor of a building and no csi lab is going to have only one guy working there and no big time laboratory is only going to have two employees
 
Kyoufu said:
Are you saying Linda is Zoom?
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Effect said:
Hmm you're right. It's likely a pilot episode thing. The Flash pilot was filmed months before it got picked up for series I think. By the time they decided to use Linda Park they either forgot or just said screw it and casted someone else and decided to ignore what they did in the pilot. I don't think there is any acknowledgement of the change in the show.
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According to IMDB, the same actress played her in one of the season 2 Arrow episodes that Barry was in.
 
WrenchNinja said:
No newspaper office is going to be on the ground floor of a building and no csi lab is going to have only one guy working there and no big time laboratory is only going to have two employees
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Oh none of it makes any sense. :) I do find it interesting that we do bring up Star Labs's security issue and that only two or three people ever work there. The newspaper/tv station and lab get off super easy in comparison though. At least the police station and coffee house seems right.
 
Funky Papa said:
Ep 2 was a massive step up from the premiere, even if I'm afraid the show may be at risk of getting too out of whack with the time traveling stuff.
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Are you saying "Speed Force!" is not a reasonable explanation regarding everything time travel?

Man, that was so good last episode.

Cisco: "How can this be? I thought he was erased from the time line!"
Wells: "Speed Force!"
 
Star Labs having so few employees is because their reputation was ruined after the accident and Cisco and Caitlin are the only ones who stayed.

They had more staff in the pre-accident flashbacks.
 
Eobard/Wells had to have been loaded to keep that thing operational though. Even with just him and two others that facility has to pull a LOT of power just keeping the lights on. Wonder if he left them any money, etc to keep things running. Or if there are any patents that they get money from. Wasn't it going to be closed down at the beginning of the season? Did they ever fully explain why it wasn't?
 
brotkasten said:
Are you saying "Speed Force!" is not a reasonable explanation regarding everything time travel?

Man, that was so good last episode.

Cisco: "How can this be? I thought he was erased from the time line!"
Wells: "Speed Force!"
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I actually pictured this jif during the conversation:

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morningbus said:
Star Labs having so few employees is because their reputation was ruined after the accident and Cisco and Caitlin are the only ones who stayed.

They had more staff in the pre-accident flashbacks.
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Yeah, that always made sense to me.
The weird thing is Barry apparently being the only CSI in a city the size of Central City.
 
ElectricMonk said:
So hey I just finished off The Flash season 1 as something fun to watch, what's the rough consensus on season 2? (If there is one of course)
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Not as fantastic, still very great.

TheCowboyPoet said:
Ah, that makes sense.
Now is it ever explained why she was a totally different
and older
person before Barry got hit by lightning?? :-\ :-/
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The same reason Sara Lance suddenly looked like an action hero instead of a superhero model soap actress.
 
Read Slayven's Speed Force thread if you want to roughly understand why it works in this time travel context. There's an internal logic to it.

RoninChaos said:
Anybody have that picture without the cw logo?
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Contact my boy Boss Logic.

morningbus said:
Star Labs having so few employees is because their reputation was ruined after the accident and Cisco and Caitlin are the only ones who stayed.

They had more staff in the pre-accident flashbacks.
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Correct!

BlackGhost said:
Zero is Patty
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Correct!

Reizo Ryuu said:
Enemy magnetism? This was actually much less of an issue than in any of the rocksteady games, it's one of the things WBM fixed. AA, AC and AK all have enemies just gliding all over the place to hit you, AA and AC being the worst offenders.
Enemy attack speeds aren't faster actually, they just attack earlier, the actual attacks are the same speeds as in AC.

I personally enjoy the combat in AO the most, the enemies at least make some effort, and moving on to AK, I sorely missed an enemy that actually fought back, and anything before AO just feels stale/boring/easy.
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Enemy magnetism as in the game won't attack the enemy you're pushing the stick in the direction of. I'm pressing to the left to attack a regular goon and Batman attacks up and hits an armored goon breaking the combo. Attacking faster isn't a good thing either when Batman's old moves haven't been sped up to match so they're constantly interrupted. AND AO has big problems with enemies coming out of nowhere to attack, I don't know why you think it doesn't. AK also has these issues, but to a much lesser extent.

AO isn't hard, it's broken. Freeflow Focus and shock gloves means you only ever really dodge, attack, dodge, attack.

Worst combat hands down.
 
Just watched episode 11, good episode.

But I have a question about Jay and his Earth 1 doppelgänger apparently being this
Hunter Zolomon
. I haven't read any Flash comics (only some animated films and the Justice League stuff), but a quick search tells me that this
Hunter Zolomon is Zoom
. But how would that even work? I mean,
Jay is from Earth 2 and Zoom as well. They can't be the same person
, right? Unless they're pulling something like
Zoom initially came from Earth 3
or whatever.

Or, of course, both are just unrelated.
 
Red Hood said:
Just watched episode 11, good episode.

But I have a question about Jay and his Earth 1 doppelgänger apparently being this
Hunter Zolomon
. I haven't read any Flash comics (only some animated films and the Justice League stuff), but a quick search tells me that this
Hunter Zolomon is Zoom
. But how would that even work? I mean,
Jay is from Earth 2 and Zoom as well. They can't be the same person
, right? Unless they're pulling something like
Zoom initially came from Earth 3
or whatever.

Or, of course, both are just unrelated.
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They're probably unrelated. Reverse Flash/Zoom are interchangeable names that are held by multiple characters. Hunter Zolomon is probably a seed for a later villain.
 
Hunter is no doubt going to come into play for the next season. They are just plating seeds now to speed up the process. Smart of them to do it now when everyone is still asking...who is zoom, the fastest man alive.
 
morningbus said:
Star Labs having so few employees is because their reputation was ruined after the accident and Cisco and Caitlin are the only ones who stayed.

They had more staff in the pre-accident flashbacks.
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The why is not the issue, it's more the how. Running a lab with two or three people, even if theyre super geniuses is kind of absurd. How do they afford anything with Wells being dead? Like Barry was getting notices for the lab in the first episode. What do they do to keep the lights on? Do they have research grants? Super rich Wells bailing them out before, okay sure. Now? Ehhhh...Who cleans the place up? That building is huge

None of this is really that big of a deal
 
STAR Labs would be funded already, and probably received any of Wells' estate that Barry didn't inherit.

Producers have mentioned a few times they don't care about dealing with money stuff outside of throwaway comments. "Oliver's broke!" "Felicity will pay for it all."
 
ultron87 said:
Finally watched.

Barry you are a god damn idiot. It wouldn't even be a damn long distance relationship when you have super speed! Jesus.
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Yeah, I totally expected the last episode to be Barry thinking "should I tell her I'm the Flash so we can do a long-distance relationship?" Instead he's just moping around.

If they want to send her away, they should've at least had someone suggest a speedster LDR and shot it down somehow. Either put her CSI school in Germany or throw out "I can't be an hour away from Central City on weekends: I need to be ready to respond to meta attakcs!"
 
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