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The Future of Hip-Hop

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Ecto311 said:
Why bother cutting through it? Good artists don't need to have their good songs weeded from their shit.
To be fair, much of his music is mixtape/collabo stuff, so its "unofficial" in a way; I feel that his albums CI-III are pretty solid (C2 being the height imho)
 
Trax416 said:
I have been into hip-hop, and have lived in Toronto my entire life. I used to mod at rapmusic.com for years in the early 00's, and met lots of underground heads who have now been signed, or are working on it, and some that are completely fine with keeping out of the eye of the mainstream and spending all of their money just to get to scribble jam, while they crash on broke rapper X's couch while they're there.

I always wanted a rapper to step up and represent Toronto. We have always had lots of talented people in hiphop, and it was only a matter of time. However, Drake honestly came out of left field. He wasn't known in this city a few years ago, and the vast majority of the hiphop community, hadn't watched Degrassi since the early 90's late 80's, when this kid was four years old.

If he has to carry the torch, so be it, but don't get it confused, he isn't that good. He is good compared to the other trash that is populating the mainstream hiphop game, but compared to rappers with actual talent, he is lacking to say the least.

He also doesn't bring the Toronto hiphop vibe. If you watch any other emcee from Toronto, you will see they have a very unique style, that has lots of Caribbean influence. Drake does not posses this in the least.

Now, I am not saying Drake is horrible. For a mainstream rapper, he has talent. He is better then most out there to say the least. He has shown he has some talent on a few mixtape tracks, but he has also shown the sellout attitude with autotune, fake singing and "best I ever had". But, because the game is so fucked up, you need to do it to sell albums now-a-days.

Drake isn't going to save hiphop. He may help bring it back a bit from the garbage bin it's been hiding in for the past 8 years. He isn't of the caliber to save the game completely, but it's a step in the right direction over Soulja Boy and half the trash coming out of the south.

OH NOES! This rapper isnt like every other rapper that comes from where i'm from so i'm going to disown him! Anybody that uses autotune = sellout! "Best I Ever Had" IS THE WORST SONG EVER...


....seriously?
 
mr_nothin said:
oh GOD NO....

People actually like Charles Hamilton? Mr "SONIC IS MY GOD AND MY RELIGION"???
:lol
haha, I actually was pretty lukewarm on Charles Hamilton, but I thought I saw potential. His beats were pretty rough around the edges, and I thought that with better production he would improve. Now that time has passed, I think I completely misjudged him. He has not evolved or gotten better, and I'm still very meh about him.
 
Just found that chali 2na has an album coming out tomorrow. Man I miss some new J5 and this doesn't look too bad but not as good as a jurassic 5 album.
 
Tokubetsu said:
Another great mixtape y'all should check out:
Novel's Suspended Animation

Just listened to this, and the Sky Might Fall remix he does is quite excellent. Also the J Cole mix tape was amazing.
 
mujun said:
It sucks that the most popular "rap" is usually from people with the least talent.
Was Coltrane ever that popular? I'm pretty sure he wasn't the Lil Wayne equivalent of the day... I mean people complain about Solja Boy but Kriss Kross had a Billboard no 1 single in 1991. Can't tell the difference to be honest. Yes, hip hop isn't exactly what it used to be but decrying individual artists isn't the point imo
 
Ecto311 said:
Just found that chali 2na has an album coming out tomorrow. Man I miss some new J5 and this doesn't look too bad but not as good as a jurassic 5 album.

WHAT WHERE HOW

Fish Market was pretty good, but Chali can do better and I was wondering if he was going to put out new material anytime soon
 
Darko said:

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Core407 said:
Cool, Nas and possibly Kweli as the only ones worth caring about on hat list. Now how in the fuck are you going to mention Wayne, Lupe, Budden and Bun B on the same list as Nas. I mean shit, that pretty much sums up what is wrong with hip hop today. The fuck does Lil Wayne get a reference spot, the dude plain sucks.
Bun B is a legend, UGK is the greatest hip hop duo ever. Bun Beata's poops are better than Talib Kweli. So uh, wat?

I'll just stop in to say Rich Boy & Jackie Chain 4 life.
 
Lambtron said:
Bun B is a legend, UGK is the greatest hip hop duo ever. Bun Beata's poops are better than Talib Kweli. So uh, wat?

I'll just stop in to say Rich Boy & Jackie Chain 4 life.

Co-sign.

UGK made southern rap and still nobody is beating them by a fucking mile. Bun still got that fire he had from day one.
 
Lambtron said:
Bun B is a legend, UGK is the greatest hip hop duo ever. Bun Beata's poops are better than Talib Kweli. So uh, wat?

I'll just stop in to say Rich Boy & Jackie Chain 4 life.

Meh, Bun B is entertaining but is too one dimensional to be considered better overall than somebody like Talib Kweli. I wouldn't consider either to be that great but at least Talib gives us more than the usual "rappin bullshit" and actually stimulates some thoughts other than "That's a sick flow." And "That's a clever line". I don't recall ever hearing anything poetic or particularly moving from Bun B. If he has songs like that please direct me to them because I'd love to hear it...
 
Charred Greyface said:
Was Coltrane ever that popular? I'm pretty sure he wasn't the Lil Wayne equivalent of the day... I mean people complain about Solja Boy but Kriss Kross had a Billboard no 1 single in 1991. Can't tell the difference to be honest. Yes, hip hop isn't exactly what it used to be but decrying individual artists isn't the point imo

I'm just talking about rap/hip hop in general.

I can't understand why people like Little Wayne, etc are popular while Copywrite, Apathy, J-Live, Celph Titled, etc are not.

It's probably got something to do with the money put into it, the knowledge of the average listener, etc, still.
 
I admit some of the stuff Lil Wayne raps about is pretty dumb and commercial. I agree with Cornel West though, Lil Wayne is a intelligent guy. If you filter out the shit music and listen to the good stuff you'd see what I'm talking about.
 
I'm surprised no one is talking about the Game and Jay beef. Apparently Game and Jay-Z are beefing after Jay called out Game's name on the Blueprint 3 Intro.
And now Game has a diss track called "I'm So Wavy". This beef is going to be interesting. :D

Edit: My favourite up-coming emcee is defianetly a dude by the name Mickey Factz. He's the best newcomer from New York IMO. Here's a sample "Incredible".
 
This isn't exactly brand new, but I don't think most people here have listened to blu's most recent mixtape he favorite color. I think this he entirely produced this mixtape.

My favorite song Amnesia
 
Aljosa said:
I'm surprised no one is talking about the Game and Jay beef. Apparently Game and Jay-Z are beefing after Jay called out Game's name on the Blueprint 3 Intro.
And now Game has a diss track called "I'm So Wavy". This beef is going to be interesting. :D

Edit: My favourite up-coming emcee is defianetly a dude by the name Mickey Factz. He's the best newcomer from New York IMO. Here's a sample "Incredible".

Heard the Game diss track, its pretty wack. I'm not even sure Jigga will respond, but if he does, he needs to prepare for about 3 diss tracks a week.
 
Wale.

He rides that fine line between backpack rapper and street. Kinda miffed to see him on Roc though. Hope he doesn't get Memphis Bleeked.
 
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