Fidelis Hodie
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alterno69 said:
Thanks, Alterno!
I color them with Red Giant's Colorista II. The settings and whatnot are me playing around until I get something I like, usually.
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Thanks, Alterno!
I color them with Red Giant's Colorista II. The settings and whatnot are me playing around until I get something I like, usually.
Just finished my prod and now into post.
Question for you guys - I used a T3i (provided by uni) and it was really good for video work. I'm planning to invest into my own DSLR (for video but also stills) but can't decide what would be a better combo-
T3i with an expensive big aperture lens or 7D with a relatively cheap lens?
Question for you guys - I used a T3i (provided by uni) and it was really good for video work. I'm planning to invest into my own DSLR (for video but also stills) but can't decide what would be a better combo-
T3i with an expensive big aperture lens or 7D with a relatively cheap lens?
Fidelis Hodie
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dmshaposv said:
Their difference in video quality is minuscule as far as cameras go and the theory goes you should always invest in more in the lens. The expensive lens can carry over to more other models, the bodies all grow older with time.
Lens, lens, lens!
I'm reconsidering, a VG20 next month or the cheaper T3i?
The T3i is half the price of the soon released VG20 and i could get it anyway here in Mexico at the same price it is sold in the US, the VG20 will probably go for over 4k here in Mexico and if i import it it will probably be around 3k after taxes and shipping. The T3i is around 900 USD here in Mexico lol. Is it too much trouble working with a DSLR for video? What about battery life, IS and stuff like that? WOuld i need to get an expensive rig?
The T3i is half the price of the soon released VG20 and i could get it anyway here in Mexico at the same price it is sold in the US, the VG20 will probably go for over 4k here in Mexico and if i import it it will probably be around 3k after taxes and shipping. The T3i is around 900 USD here in Mexico lol. Is it too much trouble working with a DSLR for video? What about battery life, IS and stuff like that? WOuld i need to get an expensive rig?
BlackGoku03
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Anybody have any lenses they want to sell?
So I'm getting the Rode shotgun mic and this baby:
I should be able to shoot stuff at a good enough quality now but I need a better lens... I have a 70-300mm (for only 80 bucks, it was a steal) and the kit 18-55mm. I bought the 50mm but it came broken and Amazon refunded my money and wouldn't let me trade it in.
Thinking about it, I need a fixed, prime lens if I'm doing video. I'm not good enough to shoot with zoom and focus. I've found this out the hard way while filming an event for my church.
Idealy, I'd like to have 35mm, 50mm, or anything below that which gets more expensive. Speaking of price... why is Canon's 35mm so much more expensive than Nikon's 35mm? it doesn't make any sense! My dad has a D80 and one of the lenses I enjoyed the most was the 35mm. Why the hell did Canon price it 150 bucks over the competition?
So I'm getting the Rode shotgun mic and this baby:
I should be able to shoot stuff at a good enough quality now but I need a better lens... I have a 70-300mm (for only 80 bucks, it was a steal) and the kit 18-55mm. I bought the 50mm but it came broken and Amazon refunded my money and wouldn't let me trade it in.
Thinking about it, I need a fixed, prime lens if I'm doing video. I'm not good enough to shoot with zoom and focus. I've found this out the hard way while filming an event for my church.
Idealy, I'd like to have 35mm, 50mm, or anything below that which gets more expensive. Speaking of price... why is Canon's 35mm so much more expensive than Nikon's 35mm? it doesn't make any sense! My dad has a D80 and one of the lenses I enjoyed the most was the 35mm. Why the hell did Canon price it 150 bucks over the competition?
Fidelis Hodie
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BlackGoku03 said:
Looks like a good rig and the rode is definitely worth it.
Overall though man, I'd still say you should just practice more at pulling focus while shooting and being able to zoom. It'll get easier with time, like most things. Do you want to do camera work for people in the future? With live events, not having to switch lenses saves a lot of time and hassle, not to mention less things to tote around. Just my thoughts.
dmshaposv said:
This is the lens I use for all my video. Heavy price for us do it ourselvers, but it's worth it. By far the cheapest lens to make all video look as professional as I could.
BlackGoku03
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If I do any events, it's for church. I'll mostly be doing my own thing.Fidelis Hodie said:
That lens looks great. I'll rent it before I buy it.
Joel Was Right
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For those who use an EOS, what setup do you have to combat the AGC issue with the sound?
Fidelis Hodie
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Meus Renaissance said:
A year ago or so I was doing this . .
Fidelis Hodie said:Here's exactly what I used for scoundrels:
A zoom h4n to record.
A rode NTG-2 for the mic.
And then I took a mic stand (like this one) I had and screwed the top half off for a boom pole, like so . . .
Lately though, I magic lantern'd my T2i (hack of the firmware, lets you turn AGC off) and run a 50 dollar, battery powered shotgun mic into it.
It's surprisingly really good.
Haven't posted in a bit...
Here's some new stuff:
http://vimeo.com/30829459 - pass: blessed (hasn't released yet...was supposed to be something with a b-story, but the band failed hard and so we just did performance...fast forward to 2:20 for the only part worth watching)
http://vimeo.com/30644898 - pass: stacey (hasn't released yet) This is my first country video.
http://vimeo.com/24433217 - Hip-hop video. This one is pretty long, but is on a much grander scale than the one below.
http://vimeo.com/28540125 - Simple Hip-Hop video...we shot it on the same day as the one above. But you can probably guess which one got more attention.
Here's some new stuff:
http://vimeo.com/30829459 - pass: blessed (hasn't released yet...was supposed to be something with a b-story, but the band failed hard and so we just did performance...fast forward to 2:20 for the only part worth watching)
http://vimeo.com/30644898 - pass: stacey (hasn't released yet) This is my first country video.
http://vimeo.com/24433217 - Hip-hop video. This one is pretty long, but is on a much grander scale than the one below.
http://vimeo.com/28540125 - Simple Hip-Hop video...we shot it on the same day as the one above. But you can probably guess which one got more attention.
if it's audio i absolutely need i'll typically run it to whatever video camera i have laying around and then sync it up in post. i've occasionally plugged a mic into my 7d, but not being able to monitor it really sucks. it's only partially burned me once, but it's not worth the headache of not knowing.Meus Renaissance said:
Fidelis Hodie
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oatmeal said:
That would be delicious. ;__;
And that shot at 2:20 is pimpin'. Love me some good ol, "hold! everyone! hold! just stay stiiiilll . . . " in front of some christian screamo.
Exclamation-One
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If there are any filmmakers in the Seattle/Portland/Vancouver BC area, please PM me. I have a project (game) that needs someone with filmmaking experience.
This will be a paid gig.
This will be a paid gig.
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Why are prime lenses best for video?
Benjamin_MFF
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Meus Renaissance said:
Well, this is a bit of tricky question. No one lens is better than another, it all depends on what effect you are working to achieve. Some people prefer zooms over primes, and vice versa.
If you're curious about the difference between video and still lenses, here is a good read:
http://matthewduclos.wordpress.com/2011/10/07/why-cinema-lenses-cost-so-much/
I primarily use prime lenses, I like the look that some of my glass has and all of them are completely manual. Makes working on camera reports easier too. I am currently playing around with a 80-200mm F 4.5. I'll post impressions if you guys are interested.
Back to your question, I think it is something to ponder on.
The Librarian
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Greetings filmmakers!
My student group at UNCW, Flicker Film Society, is gearing up for its student film festival, Reel Teal, we'll host around late March-mid April of next year, and we're looking for people who are interested in submitting their films. We don't know when the call for entries is going to be yet, or the submission fee, but we decided it was best to start looking around for people who are interested.
PM me if you're interested and I'll let you know the details once we have 'em figured out.
We didn't get a lot of foreign films last year, so we're really interested in getting some of those. But don't let that discourage you from submitting anything if you're from the US! We'll take anything.
My student group at UNCW, Flicker Film Society, is gearing up for its student film festival, Reel Teal, we'll host around late March-mid April of next year, and we're looking for people who are interested in submitting their films. We don't know when the call for entries is going to be yet, or the submission fee, but we decided it was best to start looking around for people who are interested.
PM me if you're interested and I'll let you know the details once we have 'em figured out.
We didn't get a lot of foreign films last year, so we're really interested in getting some of those. But don't let that discourage you from submitting anything if you're from the US! We'll take anything.
Fidelis Hodie said:
I am seriously considering this...
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004X1SG12/?tag=neogaf0e-20
I have the 85mm, and it's the best lens I have (and it's only 270 bucks).
Total steal.
Fidelis Hodie
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oatmeal said:
Got my little sister to get that lens and it's fantastic.
oatmeal said:
I used that very same Rokinon 35 mm Lens with a T3i - it definitely is a great lens.
I'm considering these three lenses for my future kit (when I get my own T3i).
18 - 55 mm stock
SIGMA 77 - 300 mm
50mm f/ 1.8
and when I can raise enough funds
Tamron 17-50 mm f/ 2.8
Rokinon 35mm f/1.4
I'm mostly planning to do video work. What do you guys think of my lens choices?
Futureman said:
The country one was fully permitted. I'm shooting another one next week on the RED with VAMPIRE STRIPPERS! It is fully insured and permitted.
The screaming bullshit one was not, just snuck into this cool location.
Hip hop video with the planes, done in AE. Took a long time to track in this photo:
Funny enough, I forgot to save the project, so after I had rendered out the one you see there, AE crashed and instead of rebuilding it (took hours) I just said fuck it and moved on. So it's not perfect, but it's good enough.
Fidelis Hodie said:Got my little sister to get that lens and it's fantastic.
Which, the 85 or the 35?
dmshaposv said:
18-55 is a shit lens, don't get it. Just buy the body by itself and scour Craigslist for a decent Tamron (either the 17-50 or a 28-70 or whatever it is). That stock lens is not worth it. The 50 is really nice, though. I have the 1.4 now, and it's nice...but I still miss that little plastic fucker. It was my first lens for my 7D...
Fidelis Hodie
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oatmeal said:
35, though I think it was the Sigma, not the rokina now that I think about it.
Fidelis Hodie said:
Huh.
Didn't even know that existed.
I see a 30mm here:
http://www.adorama.com/SG3014EOSK.html
Is that the one?
Looks nice!
Having an 18mm and a 30mm would be pretty much all I'd need.
MAKE IT HAPPEN, GOD!
Fidelis Hodie
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oatmeal said:
Ding, ding! That's the one. I don't really like shooting video without IS or VC when going handheld (which is 100% for me these days) but as far as expenses go . . (stealing her lens while back home) it's amazing on a dolly or slider . . .
we are finishing work on a short film we made basically to just practice a bit of fakey combat, might as well post the teaser here!
http://youtu.be/vtFtW-zBJYs
its fun to do silly stuff
http://youtu.be/vtFtW-zBJYs
its fun to do silly stuff
triplestation
Member
I got a rode video mic for my d7000 and I can't tell the difference between it and the internal mic. I thought this thing was supposed to be good. I've done several tests. Is there something I'm doing wrong?
EDIT: Never mind. I accidentally have been using it with the jack put into the wrong input. I found another hole and fucked that one instead. And it feels much better man. Much much better.
EDIT: Never mind. I accidentally have been using it with the jack put into the wrong input. I found another hole and fucked that one instead. And it feels much better man. Much much better.
I made a Epic Meal Time inspired Pizza Calzone with two friends. The idea is almost entirely the same as EMT. We just made it for funs and it was a good practice. It's basically the first real video I made (recorded and edited).
It's not as exciting as EMT (ignore the lame Dutch jokes) nor we had a large budget for Jack Daniels.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRGWE-H5Mdw
However, I think the video came out pretty cool and I am happy with the result.
It's not as exciting as EMT (ignore the lame Dutch jokes) nor we had a large budget for Jack Daniels.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRGWE-H5Mdw
However, I think the video came out pretty cool and I am happy with the result.
triplestation
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Not nearly enough bacon strips. What were you planning on feeding, a prawn fetus or something?Dreaver said:
Very nice video work/mimic 
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oatmeal said:
I've seen some lovely footage with the 18-55mm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fqn6mWuqwE0
I would love to make some (first-person) Point of View videos with my Rebel Ti2. I was wondering if anyone here had some experience or ideas for it. How to make or what is a good way to fake it? Because I sadly 'can't just put the camera on my head...
Example of what I mean: http://vimeo.com/6540668
Example of what I mean: http://vimeo.com/6540668
Thank you for the kind words, I really appreciate it!bangladesh said:Not nearly enough bacon strips. What were you planning on feeding, a prawn fetus or something?
Very nice video work/mimic
Meus Renaissance said:
I'd say that's the exception to the rule.
They shot it at 100-400 ISO, so that sun must have been blasting in there. And it's been color corrected nicely.
My point is, if you're going to be buying a camera, you're better off in the long run to not even get that lens and put the 100 or so you save on the body only to a zoom that isn't crap.
BTW...that's a ridiculous location.
triplestation
Member
I love Cinnamon Chasers.
Joel Was Right
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oatmeal said:
Ridiculous as in ridiculously good or bad? I think it's amazing! I also like this video
I've never personally used a zoom lens but don't think you want to be carrying one around any time soon after you purchased the camera, unless you have a rig.
And that's it without it extending.
Meus Renaissance said:Ridiculous as in ridiculously good or bad? I think it's amazing! I also like this video
I've never personally used a zoom lens but don't think you want to be carrying one around any time soon after you purchased the camera, unless you have a rig.
And that's it without it extending.
Good!
Very good.
Amazing, amazing location.
You film an entire feature in there, it's so varied.
(EDIT)
That second clip you send is just...daytime with a tree in focus. lol
Not much there.
And those lenses are zoom lenses, mang. What do you mean you don't want to use one without a rig?
itwasTuesday
He wasn't alone.
Pretty much what you want to do.Dreaver said:
Gotta either build or buy a head/body mount.
You could dual strap a flatish piece of wood to you chest then put an L bracket out and mount the camera. Or wear a backpack backwards and create a holder/mounting area in it. Any bike helmet you feel like drilling some holes through and then just attach a tilting release plate. That would be like 40 bucks, or none if you have parts.
One of the simplest solutions would be to invest in a gopro and mount it to a helmet.
Simple shoots like choking someone can be straight forward with just putting hands in front of camera or an operator holding the camera next to your head to frame.
Shooting the scene footage first and them composting your hands later will most likely not give you the desired look. Probably would be more work than you want.
Um if you do the chest mount you can do some cool angles if, instead of attaching the the camera directly at chest level you can attach a pole or monopod and another strap at the top of the poll while angling down the camera.
If you are not sure you want to spend the money or time making these things just do a simple headband and tape(whatever) the lightest thing you have that shoots video (phone perhaps) and walk around as test footage. Buy a cheap used pocket cam if you want. In great light they are capable of producing good looking shots.
It really comes down to how much work do I want to do vs cost.
i don't really have any examples of the 18-55 lens, but i've never really had a problem with it. i love using it for video when i'm not shooting with my 70-200L 2.8. i would say that it's a great, inexpensive secondary lens that has IS. i rarely use a rig or tripod, and i've never had a problem with this lens, especially considering it's only $100..
this isn't a great example of the lens, but here's a short tour i did at EA Sports Tiburon back in March using only the 18-55 lens, and no lighting. a coworker used his sony video camera for a couple broll shots at the :44 and 1:27 marks. other than that, 18-55 exclusively.
this isn't a great example of the lens, but here's a short tour i did at EA Sports Tiburon back in March using only the 18-55 lens, and no lighting. a coworker used his sony video camera for a couple broll shots at the :44 and 1:27 marks. other than that, 18-55 exclusively.
Fidelis Hodie
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Meus Renaissance said:
Actually, if you're not using a rig, the smaller the lens and less weight you're going with makes it almost impossible to keep it steady. If you're shooting on a tripod or slider, that's one thing, but to wrestle these DSLR's into looking like much, much more expensive and professional video cameras, the right lens can help a lot. And that's absolutely including zooms.
You can fake it till you make it with a lot of things, and if you can only afford the kit lens, then get it and start shooting. But, if you're going to be putting your money into places, don't be fooled by those videos. Having a minimum aperture of 3.5 and still being able to shot at lower ISO's with the camera (less grain = more professional!) means bright daylight at all times. That first video looked great, but they're professionals with actual lighting setups and good coloring.
The biggest thing about getting a good zoom lens is a constant, low aperture throughout the lens, meaning it stays at whatever you set it no matter how far you zoom in. The kits lens is 3.5-5.6 at it's most open, meaning if you zoom in the light will seem to get dimmer.
You . . may have already known all of this. lol
Walkaround lens = A nice, girthy zoom with a constant aperture and some sort of image stabilization. And a fader ND. And then all I have to constantly worry about is the ailising and moire problems.
;__;
The kit lens looks great because of the camera itself . . which is great actually.
I'm done typing. No more typing.
Fidelis Hodie
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Fidelis Hodie said:
I can vouch for that. The kit lens is good for daylight and point/click scenarios.
I tried shooting some low light stuff at ISO 800 with the T3i, looked ugly and noisy as hell (with the kit lens). Although the noise-level performance of the camera is arguably not that great to begin with (I try not to go higher than ISO 400 now)
Anyway I intend to just get the body, the 50mm f1.8 and the EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 Zoom lens.
The combo of a low-light fixed lens and a telephoto zoom lens should be fine for the time being untill I can raise funds for better lenses (like the Tamron one).
So, I am currently thinking about buying a shoulder rig. I've tried searching for good DIY tutorials but they all requiere loads of work (and stuff like drilling... where I am really bad in) plus I am Dutch so it seems quite an objective finding some of the materials.
I don't want to invest to much to be honest (I'd prefer under $50). Does anyone has any suggestions which one to buy? There are so many.. including on Ebay.
Also, is a Monopod worth getting?
I don't want to invest to much to be honest (I'd prefer under $50). Does anyone has any suggestions which one to buy? There are so many.. including on Ebay.
Also, is a Monopod worth getting?
Thank you for your post. It seems either loads of work (and I am not that good at this kind of things) or cost a lot of money. I'll skip it for now I think.itwasTuesday said:Pretty much what you want to do.
Gotta either build or buy a head/body mount.
You could dual strap a flatish piece of wood to you chest then put an L bracket out and mount the camera. Or wear a backpack backwards and create a holder/mounting area in it. Any bike helmet you feel like drilling some holes through and then just attach a tilting release plate. That would be like 40 bucks, or none if you have parts.
One of the simplest solutions would be to invest in a gopro and mount it to a helmet.
Simple shoots like choking someone can be straight forward with just putting hands in front of camera or an operator holding the camera next to your head to frame.
Shooting the scene footage first and them composting your hands later will most likely not give you the desired look. Probably would be more work than you want.
Um if you do the chest mount you can do some cool angles if, instead of attaching the the camera directly at chest level you can attach a pole or monopod and another strap at the top of the poll while angling down the camera.
If you are not sure you want to spend the money or time making these things just do a simple headband and tape(whatever) the lightest thing you have that shoots video (phone perhaps) and walk around as test footage. Buy a cheap used pocket cam if you want. In great light they are capable of producing good looking shots.
It really comes down to how much work do I want to do vs cost.
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Has anyone ever considered/tried short films based on interviewing seniors who have had an interesting life/story to share?
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Meus Renaissance said:
gotta figure out how to put it into an interesting format
BlackGoku03
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I have but it's hard to figure the right format. Great stories can be ruined if they aren't told correctly.Meus Renaissance said:
I'm actualy thinking of short films to test my camera now... it's hard when I don't have any volunteers.