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The GiantBomb Quick Look Thread

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Gexecuter said:
Most of the quick looks they do are blind quick looks, i'm assuming they don't play the game before because they assume they will get all of the info they need from the game itself something which is not crazy for most current games.
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Generally the ones where they have played a decent chunk of the game before filming are better.

Of course by better I mean in the "showing off the actual game in an informative manner" sense and not necessarily in the "mad cap entertainment" sense.
 
ultron87 said:
Generally the ones where they have played a decent chunk of the game before filming are better.

Of course by better I mean in the "showing off the actual game in an informative manner" sense and not necessarily in the "mad cap entertainment" sense.
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I think Ryan almost always plays a chunk of a game before a QL so he doesn't suffer these issues like Brad.
 
hey_it's_that_dog said:
If it's the brainpower point, I've dismissed it already. When you practice something a lot, it becomes automatic, and doesn't interfere as much or at all with other simultaneous activities. If you've played video games your whole life, you should be able to play one and talk at the same time. I also doubt he's experiencing extreme performance anxiety brought on by rude people on the internet. I understand that that kind of thing can happen, but they do QLs constantly, he should be over it by now, if that's even a problem for him in the first place.
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It's a shame you've dismissed it, then, because that's ignorance on your part. Just doing livestreams of games myself, there's always that little portion of your brain going "Oh fuck, somebody's going to see this", and it most definitely can throw you off.

It's a type of performance. And that's not even factoring in anything else typical to the Quicklook format, like focusing on a conversation, or basically rushing through things trying to show off as much as possible before time's up.

And then, on top of all of this, imagine how many games they see and play every year. For Brad, Shadow of the Colossus was probably anywhere from 250 to 500 games ago. He might as well have been playing it again for his first time - and it's the kind of game that is almost deliberately obtuse in certain regards. I remember spending nearly an hour with the demo trying to get the hang of jumping and climbing and managing grip.

The point in all of this is that there are a lot of factors that go in to making one of these videos and expecting guys like Brad to get over it or compensate for them is about as probable as expecting somebody to discover, learn, and master latent psychokinesis. You can't always control your subconscious; that's kind of how it earned its name.
 
The played a lot of games argument is pitiful to me. How many films have you watched? Can you honestly say you forgot the core aspects of a film you saw five years ago? I heard Lisa Loeb's song Stay the other day, I don't think I'd heard it for ten years and I remembered most of the words. You don't forget things that easily.

I don't believe he ever finished it based on his other comments either. I think he never knew what the circle did, so he never finished the game, and that's why he thinks Ico might be wearing a hat.
 
I don't think that someone forgetting the story details of a game from five years ago that doesn't exactly spell out its story in the most direct manner is that big of a deal.
 
ultron87 said:
I don't think that someone forgetting the story details of a game from five years ago that doesn't exactly spell out its story in the most direct manner is that big of a deal.
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Okay, I guess you could not care and ignore the ending, but what does suggest to you he actually finished it?

Curufinwe said:
That's plausible, but I think Gamespot has always required reviewers to finish single player games.
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That would be a fair policy, and the game is like eight hours long, so it would be strange not to finish it, it seems bizarre he could have forgotten so much though.
 
Sega1991 said:
It's a shame you've dismissed it, then, because that's ignorance on your part. Just doing livestreams of games myself, there's always that little portion of your brain going "Oh fuck, somebody's going to see this", and it most definitely can throw you off.

It's a type of performance. And that's not even factoring in anything else typical to the Quicklook format, like focusing on a conversation, or basically rushing through things trying to show off as much as possible before time's up.

And then, on top of all of this, imagine how many games they see and play every year. For Brad, Shadow of the Colossus was probably anywhere from 250 to 500 games ago. He might as well have been playing it again for his first time - and it's the kind of game that is almost deliberately obtuse in certain regards. I remember spending nearly an hour with the demo trying to get the hang of jumping and climbing and managing grip.

The point in all of this is that there are a lot of factors that go in to making one of these videos and expecting guys like Brad to get over it or compensate for them is about as probable as expecting somebody to discover, learn, and master latent psychokinesis. You can't always control your subconscious; that's kind of how it earned its name.
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I rebutted the point with my perspective which is based on scientific facts about human learning and performance. You're right that an audience can make you do worse. But did you know that an audience tends to make you do better if it's a simple activity or an activity you're an expert at? It's debatable whether being an experienced video game expert (not in terms of skill, but in terms of familiarity) is the kind of expertise relevant to said theory of performance, but I'm suggesting it is indeed relevant.

I just don't buy the performance anxiety argument for this particular game. There is no immediate threat, it's slow paced, and it's extremely simple. You can move, ride a horse, use a sword or arrows, and climb. Surely the moving, horseriding, swording and arrowing took zero cognitive energy to understand given how common those actions are video games. That just leaves the grip system and a simple conversation about the game. Not a big cognitive load, IMO.
 
Did we get an apology from Brad yet?
 
Yoshichan said:
Did we get an apology from Brad yet?
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For what? What did do to you?

As I said previously, this was 6 years ago, he played it once and never touched it again while going on to play other games for his job and review them.
 
Yoshichan said:
Did we get an apology from Brad yet?
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Let's keep the criticism reasonable and try not to look like extreme Ueda-worshippers whose sacred cow has been slaughtered. It's easy for someone to dismiss all your arguments if you appear to be a zealot or even just slightly overly invested in a game.

Brad doesn't need to apologize, but if he could issue some kind of correction or little addendum to the QL video, that might be nice.
 
I was deeply hurt.
 
He did misrepresent the product, but ultimately if after playing games for so long, and having played this exact game before, he still has no idea what to do, that's fine, the game does require a certain level of cognitive reasoning to be playable. This was his honest reaction when being faced with the game after all.
 
cuevas said:
When did the game explain the mechanic? I must of completely missed it since they started a new game.
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I showed a very young girl who's barely played anything besides stuff on the Wii (and quite possibly some DS). I asked her what some of those things in the interface meant. She had no clue, until Brad started climbing on the colossus. Then she knew.

A 7 year old kid, who's barely played video games, knows more common sense than Brad?
 
Yoshichan said:
I showed a very young girl who's barely played anything besides stuff on the Wii (and quite possibly some DS). I asked her what some of those things in the interface meant. She had no clue, until Brad started climbing on the colossus. Then she knew.

A 7 year old kid, who's barely played video games, knows more common sense than Brad?
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Ahahaha, this guy.
 
cuevas said:
Ahahaha, this guy.
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My reaction, exactly. I laughed out loud.
 
Brqd doesn't need to apologize. That's ridiculous. He needs to play a game for 5 minutes before the quick look starts. His AoE Online QL was loads better because he'd actually been playing the game for a while.

I bumble through games at first, too. No problems, there. Just don't record that, becauee it's of no use to anyone.

Good QLs: Witcher, Shogun 2, Hard Reset, AoE Online

Bad QLs: SotC, EYE, OoT

There's a clear thematic similarity with why the bad ones are bad.
 
Okay, this is getting out of hand. I didn't help matters by complaining, but move on, please. He fumbled around in a game and will (hopefully) skim manuals from now on. Who cares anymore?

Also, I think Colossusgate made everyone glaze over this gem...

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StuBurns said:
The played a lot of games argument is pitiful to me. How many films have you watched? Can you honestly say you forgot the core aspects of a film you saw five years ago?
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If I only saw the movie one time? Yes! I can think of a lot of scenarios where that exact situation of, "I saw this movie 5 years ago but I definitely don't remember everything that happens" has occurred.

And it's not even my job to watch movies for a living.

This is implying that a guy like Brad sees and plays more videogames than most people, because that is his job. It is not a stretch to say that guys in those sorts of jobs spend more than 50% of their life either thinking, writing, or interviewing about any number of a dozen videogames slated for coverage that week. That's not even counting the whole playing bit.

If you think (emphasis on think) you're sharp enough that none of that would be a problem for you, great. More power to you, I guess. But not everybody is, and raging about it just irritates the issue even further. It is a trail of tears that literally cannot end anywhere that is beneficial to the involved parties.
 
Sega1991 said:
If I only saw the movie one time? Yes! I can think of a lot of scenarios where that exact situation of, "I saw this movie 5 years ago but I definitely don't remember everything that happens" has occurred.

And it's not even my job to watch movies for a living.

This is implying that a guy like Brad sees and plays more videogames than most people, because that is his job. It is not a stretch to say that guys in those sorts of jobs spend more than 50% of their life either thinking, writing, or interviewing about any number of a dozen videogames slated for coverage that week. That's not even counting the whole playing bit.

If you think (emphasis on think) you're sharp enough that none of that would be a problem for you, great. More power to you, I guess. But not everybody is, and raging about it just irritates the issue even further. It is a trail of tears that literally cannot end anywhere that is beneficial to the involved parties.
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You seriously consider this conversation as 'raging'? I think you need to reevaluate your perception of written tone.
 
hey_it's_that_dog said:
Brad doesn't need to apologize, but if he could issue some kind of correction or little addendum to the QL video, that might be nice.
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That's sort of silly. This isn't the first time the bombcast has missed major game mechanics before during Quick Looks. To go out of the way just for this game is ridiculous.
 
mujun said:
What I don't understand is the disconnect.

If people are honestly as pissed off by this sort of stuff as they seem to be based on their posts then you'd think they'd give up watching the QLs and in turn stop posting the same stuff in the thread.

It seems to me that some people go out of their way to watch the QLs just so they can nitpick them.

Fine if that is what you are into, seems overly negative and self destructive to me, though.
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they are just Videogame SuperPros is all.
 
Lolz at asking Brad for an apology. Apology for what? To who?

StuBurns said:
He might be playing with a Sixaxis, but there's a sound cue also if I remember correctly.
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You can hear it in the QL, a little tick-tock countdown until you're out of grip.
 
I'm contacting the american embassy near me to straighten this shit out, because I don't want to live in a world where Brad doesn't apologize for all the QLs he's done.
 
jett said:
Lolz at asking Brad for an apology. Apology for what? To who?\
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Yeah, what is this? This is NeoGAF. We're supposed to be more knowledgeable about games than the people who work.
 
PounchEnvy said:
That's sort of silly. This isn't the first time the bombcast has missed major game mechanics before during Quick Looks. To go out of the way just for this game is ridiculous.
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I could have sworn they added something in the video correcting what they said the quick look. I think it was for Dragon Age Origins but that might have been Bioware/EA telling them.

This doesn't really need that though, it's not like he was railing on the game because of the grip stuff.
 
People here are taking this Quick Look mishaps/oversights far too personally. Reactions here make it look like someone slandered their name or something.


bill.cosby said:
sigh....giant bomb threads were so much better when they were just a list of memes.
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GEE GEE

I think I'm going to order one!
 
PounchEnvy said:
That's sort of silly. This isn't the first time the bombcast has missed major game mechanics before during Quick Looks. To go out of the way just for this game is ridiculous.
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Well, these games are like art, man. Brad's ruining the art.
 
bill.cosby said:
sigh....giant bomb threads were so much better when they were just a list of memes.
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Jello Pudding Pop!





better?

EDIT: This game looks pretty cool, I've been considering getting an iPad since the Theme Park thread, if I do I'll check this out for sure.
 
Yoshichan said:
I showed a very young girl who's barely played anything besides stuff on the Wii (and quite possibly some DS). I asked her what some of those things in the interface meant. She had no clue, until Brad started climbing on the colossus. Then she knew.

A 7 year old kid, who's barely played video games, knows more common sense than Brad?
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Stop hanging around 7 year old girls and getting so offended by video games.
 
Darklord said:
Stop hanging around 7 year old girls and getting so offended by video games.
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lol... the fuck
 
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