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hamchan said:
Quick Look: Scott Pilgrim vs The World

I hope they end up liking the game since I'm really enjoying it, I bet not though :/
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I really hate watching some people play games like this. They play it in a really boring manner and then complain that it's repetitive.

I don't know about anybody else but when I play a game like this I go out of my way to mix up the actions I do to make it more fun and interesting. I mean that's why you have different ways to deal with enemies in the first place.

That being said, having no real knowledge of Scott Pilgrim (or River City Ransom) other than the movie trailers I think this looks pretty cool. And assuming it's not 1200 points I may just pick it up when it comes out on 360. Actually scratch that, even if it is 1200 points (which is likely these days) I'll see what I think of the demo.
 
hamchan said:
Quick Look: Scott Pilgrim vs The World

I hope they end up liking the game since I'm really enjoying it, I bet not though :/
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How far did they get level-wise before capturing this? Considering the game feels a lot better combat wise once you've gained several levels to unlock moves, as well as upgraded stats by buying stuff, this may be a game that doesn't quite work for a quick look if starting from scratch.
 
randomlyrossy said:
And assuming it's not 1200 points I may just pick it up when it comes out on 360. Actually scratch that, even if it is 1200 points (which is likely these days) I'll see what I think of the demo.
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It's 15 bucks on PSN so it will be 1200 points.
 
randomlyrossy said:
I really hate watching some people play games like this. They play it in a really boring manner and then complain that it's repetitive.

I don't know about anybody else but when I play a game like this I go out of my way to mix up the actions I do to make it more fun and interesting. I mean that's why you have different ways to deal with enemies in the first place.

That being said, having no real knowledge of Scott Pilgrim (or River City Ransom) other than the movie trailers I think this looks pretty cool. And assuming it's not 1200 points I may just pick it up when it comes out on 360. Actually scratch that, even if it is 1200 points (which is likely these days) I'll see what I think of the demo.
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So you've not played it? To start with you don't have a lot of moves and yeh, it is a little repetitive. As someone else said, maybe it'd have been best to make a QL after they'd unlocked some stuff but they're not to know.
 
Majine said:
It's 15 bucks on PSN so it will be 1200 points.
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It's ten bucks on PSN.

And yeah the Giant Bomb guys always seem to have a problem with games that reference stuff. They can geek out all about old arcade games but then something like Scott Pilgrim comes along and the become whiny bitches.
 
Xater said:
It's ten bucks on PSN.

And yeah the Giant Bomb guys always seem to have a problem with games that reference stuff. They can geek out all about old arcade games but then something like Scott Pilgrim comes along and the become whiny bitches.
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I appreciate their realness. As opposed to swooning over something they aren't into because they might hurt some fan's oversensitive feelings.
 
Jeff also has some thing where beat-em-ups started with River City Ransom and then ended with Final Fight, so any beat-em-up other than those two is terrible in his opinion without any exception.
 
I definitely thought they were being overly cynical. It's just not entertaining when they try to approach a game in that manner, especially when it is actually fairly decent. I mean, what are they expecting from a licensed downloadable game? "Trying too hard?" Really now.

It seems like Brad is afraid to be optimistic whenever Jeff is around. They totally should have gone 2-player.
 
Wow, pretentious much?

The game seems perfectly solid and yet they try and find any fault in it before even giving it a chance. Guilty until proven innocent is not the right way to go about any journalistic critique.

Hell, I don't even like Scott Pilgrim and I thought they were unfair. The comment by Brad about Castle Crashers also... :lol Oh boy...
 
Cday said:
I appreciate their realness. As opposed to swooning over something they aren't into because they might hurt some fan's oversensitive feelings.
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There's a difference between realness and forming an opinion of a game prior to playing it or dismissing a game based on your own preconceptions/hearsay.

Keep in mind that Jeff/Ryan both wrote-off Arkham Asylum prior to release as just another licensed game. Their reservations were likely justified, but they were still vocally dismissive of it.

Don't get me wrong, I love the Giant Bomb crew, but it does sometimes seem as if their opinions of games are cemented prior to playing/reviewing them. This is somewhat understandable though I suppose, as they are privy to pre-release demos and previews. Still, they should not let their preconceptions paint their evaluation/coverage of the final product.

Vire said:
Guilty until proven innocent is not the right way to go about any journalistic critique.
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Pretty much this.

I understand this is just a quick look, but its still represents somewhat biased coverage.
 
Jeff is impossible to predict, he loves the weirdest games and hates some of the best for some reason. I know its his opinion, but it feels like he's a jaded old man sometimes.
 
betweenthewheels said:
Jeff is impossible to predict, he loves the weirdest games and hates some of the best for some reason. I know its his opinion, but it feels like he's a jaded old man sometimes.
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That's because he is.
 
betweenthewheels said:
Jeff is impossible to predict, he loves the weirdest games and hates some of the best for some reason. I know its his opinion, but it feels like he's a jaded old man sometimes.
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It feels like he's a jaded old man a lot of times. Both him and Ryan. Some of it I can understand, but sometimes...
 
EmCeeGramr said:
Game Room: 8/11/2010

And now, Jeff spends more money on 2600 and Intellivision games.
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It's been a while since I fired up Game Room, but I don't get why they can't do these videos on simply the trial versions of the games. They barely show more than a couple of minutes anyway, and you still have access to see the top 20 leaderboard replays with the trial version in case they want to show high-level gameplay.

He doesn't seem to enjoy spending the money on many of these titles so I don't understand why he doesn't go this route. Am I forgetting something that you don't have access to with just the trial? Aside from getting an actual ranking yourself, though that isn't really the point of these videos.
 
denomes said:
There's a difference between realness and forming an opinion of a game prior to playing it or dismissing a game based on your own preconceptions/hearsay.

Keep in mind that Jeff/Ryan both wrote-off Arkham Asylum prior to release as just another licensed game. Their reservations were likely justified, but they were still vocally dismissive of it.

Don't get me wrong, I love the Giant Bomb crew, but it does sometimes seem as if their opinions of games are cemented prior to playing/reviewing them. This is somewhat understandable though I suppose, as they are privy to pre-release demos and previews. Still, they should not let their preconceptions paint their evaluation/coverage of the final product.
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Oh yeah I still remeber their talk about Arkham Asylum. There was so much cool footage out there and the hype was building shortly before launch and they were totally oblivious about what was going on.

EmCeeGramr said:
He is a fun and lovable jaded old man though, even though half the time his tastes seem weird as heck.
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Absolutely true. I still enjoy the coverage the GB crew does most but there also has to be room for some critique.
 
We just have to accept that three of the four Giant Bomb guys are prone to being grouchy old whiners who ignore facts or just make stuff up to justify positions they hold solely due to personal prejudices.

Still love 'em.
 
hamchan said:
Quick Look: Scott Pilgrim vs The World
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smh @ Brad and Jeff , this QL was really bad ( not the game )

so what was Jeff and Brad point here ? don't make any game in this genre anymore because it will feel like older games from the genre ? put shooting and non fighting segments into a freaking beat em up game ?

and I don't understand why they mentioned that it copy some elements from other games so many times ( it's the point anyway ) and saying it should be illegal , many XBLA/PSN games do that , hell Brad was fapping and drooling over that boring Monday Night Combat and that game is copy and paste from TF and other Shooters.

and not even knowing the price ? really ? oh come on guys , I like you but come on.

anyway , I played the demo ( can't buy it because PSN cards not available in my country, I wish I can buy it ) I think it do everything just right for the genre and the market need more of these games.


EmCeeGramr said:
Game Room: 8/11/2010

And now, Jeff spends more money on 2600 and Intellivision games.
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I really don't see the point of Room/playing zombie old games on emulation ,imo the way to do it is to get the actual hardware ( or Atari FlashBack 2 ).
 
Curufinwe said:
We just have to accept that three of the four Giant Bomb guys are prone to being grouchy old whiners who ignore facts or just make stuff up to justify positions they hold solely due to personal prejudices.

Still love 'em.
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Yup. Still the only other gaming site I frequently visit besides GAF.
It's just that their jadedness can get on my nerves at times.
Luckily we have Vinny to counter that.
 
denomes said:
There's a difference between realness and forming an opinion of a game prior to playing it or dismissing a game based on your own preconceptions/hearsay.

Keep in mind that Jeff/Ryan both wrote-off Arkham Asylum prior to release as just another licensed game. Their reservations were likely justified, but they were still vocally dismissive of it.

Don't get me wrong, I love the Giant Bomb crew, but it does sometimes seem as if their opinions of games are cemented prior to playing/reviewing them. This is somewhat understandable though I suppose, as they are privy to pre-release demos and previews. Still, they should not let their preconceptions paint their evaluation/coverage of the final product.



Pretty much this.

I understand this is just a quick look, but its still represents somewhat biased coverage.
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I want to clarify that at the time I wrote this, I had not yet watched the quick look.

Having now watched it, I don't feel my thoughts apply in this case. I felt the quick look was fair and not in any way overtly negative, though Brad's qualms with SP's potential repetitiveness are slightly uninformed, considering they haven't yet unlocked all the moves that are available. The new moves really do open the combat quite a bit. Jeff's beef with the moves unlocking overtime is a legit opinion/complaint though.

Anyways, I stand by my original point, but this quick look is not really an example of it.

On the flip side, just because they aren't showering the game in praise doesn't mean they hate it.
 
Zabka said:
I love GB, but playing a co-op brawler by yourself on the easiest difficulty is a guaranteed bore.
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If that was easy, I'd hate to see the harder ones. Some of those guys took way too long to take down. I think that's my problem with a lot of brawlers is the fodder enemies overstay their welcome. Castle Crashers was actually pretty good in avoiding that.
 
Game Room still looks like one of the worst things MS has ever done. It's sad because the groundwork is really solid, but the support with games is horrid. They should never have launched this without enough deals in place.
 
EmCeeGramr said:
Game Room: 8/11/2010

And now, Jeff spends more money on 2600 and Intellivision games.
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IMO I think they should either add more consoles to make it more like virtual console for 360, or at least give away some games for free idk. The other thing that bums me out is that during MS's X10 event I remember one of the lead guys behind Game Room was touting that before Game Room became an actual thing, his team was considering Dreamcast emulation. A Sega emulation service sounds much more exciting than a service that lets you play games that can easily be played in a browser or MAME emulator.
 
That's the thing though, if you don't know anything about Scott Pilgrim, it does come off as just a bunch of memes and references. Worst still because of all the fans it has now, so I can see how someone could just look at it as the worst thing since 4chan.
 
firehawk12 said:
That's the thing though, if you don't know anything about Scott Pilgrim, it does come off as just a bunch of memes and references. Worst still because of all the fans it has now, so I can see how someone could just look at it as the worst thing since 4chan.
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I have not read Scott Pilgrim and have not seen the film. Not the impression I got at all.
 
Xater said:
I have not read Scott Pilgrim and have not seen the film. Not the impression I got at all.
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I'm a fan of the series that bought the first book in a comic book store that's long since closed down (in Toronto, no less) and even I'm tired of all the hype surrounding it. :lol
 
firehawk12 said:
I'm a fan of the series that bought the first book in a comic book store that's long since closed down (in Toronto, no less) and even I'm tired of all the hype surrounding it. :lol
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Are we still talking about the game?
 
Xater said:
Are we still talking about the game?
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I'm talking about the Scott Pilgrim "franchise". Clearly that's the baggage that they were bringing to the game during the QL.

(Well, beyond their hatred for brawlers)
 
Majine said:
If they do a QL on Game room every week, might aswell also do one for the latest Virtual Console releases.
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ha ha , well , thing is , if you want VC/DS-Wiiware/PSN stuff you better search another site , we actually got very lucky they did a QL for Scott Pilgrim before it hit XBLA , as we all know GB is 360 focused ( and thank god they started to cover more PC stuff lately).
 
Scott Pilgrim definitely seems like a nerd fantasy concept, being in a world where you kick ass, play in a band, get the girl and videogames are cool. Don't really like it.

But the game is fun, I love juggling enemies and grinding stats.
 
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