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The Halo 3 Beta Thread
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My first 360 died on me a week ago. Very thankful for that 2-year Best Buy warranty; easy replacement, and I got to keep the HDD to save me some trouble. >_>
Sorry for your misfortune, Ramirez. Don't waste time getting a new one though, we need you this Wednesday.
Most of the hate seems to revolve around the lack of the M6D Pistol though. I still don't undertand why so much emphasis is placed on that weapon, these guys want it back just as it was. Is the Battle Rifle really not an adequate replacement as Halo's primary middle, to mid-long-range precision weapon?
There are certainly some elements of the first game that I wish were in the second(and of course, Halo 3), but they're mostly subtle... Like the magnetism, sticky-aim, and hitboxes, for example(one of them, iirc, already confirmed to be closer to Halo 1's standards--for the Sniper Rifle, at least). The list used to be quite long, but most of the other issues I had with Halo 2's multiplayer I've come to appreciate. Melees wouldn't play as big of a part without the homing/lunging, I believe. Fall damage, even if implemented subtly as I previously wished, would feel like a giant step back in some cases now.
Seems like everybody else wants it stripped bare, and for all the wrong reasons. I don't get it.
Sorry for your misfortune, Ramirez. Don't waste time getting a new one though, we need you this Wednesday.
A lot more of the former, based on what I've read thus far. Many of the Halo 2 haters are claiming that, after seeing the recent media, Halo 3 looks too much like Halo 2. Harsh judgements on the deployments, and persistent hate for dual wielding(even though it seems it's not going to be quite as prominent as it was in Halo 3). I even noticed some hate for the map design, which... Baffled me a bit.GavinGT said:
Most of the hate seems to revolve around the lack of the M6D Pistol though. I still don't undertand why so much emphasis is placed on that weapon, these guys want it back just as it was. Is the Battle Rifle really not an adequate replacement as Halo's primary middle, to mid-long-range precision weapon?
There are certainly some elements of the first game that I wish were in the second(and of course, Halo 3), but they're mostly subtle... Like the magnetism, sticky-aim, and hitboxes, for example(one of them, iirc, already confirmed to be closer to Halo 1's standards--for the Sniper Rifle, at least). The list used to be quite long, but most of the other issues I had with Halo 2's multiplayer I've come to appreciate. Melees wouldn't play as big of a part without the homing/lunging, I believe. Fall damage, even if implemented subtly as I previously wished, would feel like a giant step back in some cases now.
Seems like everybody else wants it stripped bare, and for all the wrong reasons. I don't get it.
Karma Kramer
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Mute said:
Yes it is.
brokenwatch
Member
Quick someone link to the last Halo thread where we already had this debate
CreepingDea7h
Member
It feels so strange looking back at Halo 2 screenshots, they look much worse than I remember the game looking, but I suppose a lot happened between 2004 and now 
CreepingDea7h said:It feels so strange looking back at Halo 2 screenshots, they look much worse than I remember the game looking, but I suppose a lot happened between 2004 and now
I played the game just this morning. Halo 2 doesn't look as bad as those screenshots he put up. Infact it looks very close to the footage just released minus some of the subtle effects.
To be fair, that shot is from the E3 before Halo 2 came out. I use it mostly because of the same pose and lighting the Chief is in, so it makes a good comparison.RumpledForeskin said:
Others are here: http://www.bungie.net/projects/halo2/asset_thumb_viewer.aspx?cc=22&at=59&page=3
Still highlights the point - Halo 3 is clearly a generational leap.
Sai said:My first 360 died on me a week ago. Very thankful for that 2-year Best Buy warranty; easy replacement, and I got to keep the HDD to save me some trouble. >_>
Sorry for your misfortune, Ramirez. Don't waste time getting a new one though, we need you this Wednesday.
A lot more of the former, based on what I've read thus far. Many of the Halo 2 haters are claiming that, after seeing the recent media, Halo 3 looks too much like Halo 2. Harsh judgements on the deployments, and persistent hate for dual wielding(even though it seems it's not going to be quite as prominent as it was in Halo 3). I even noticed some hate for the map design, which... Baffled me a bit.
Most of the hate seems to revolve around the lack of the M6D Pistol though. I still don't undertand why so much emphasis is placed on that weapon, these guys want it back just as it was. Is the Battle Rifle really not an adequate replacement as Halo's primary middle, to mid-long-range precision weapon?
There are certainly some elements of the first game that I wish were in the second(and of course, Halo 3), but they're mostly subtle... Like the magnetism, sticky-aim, and hitboxes, for example(one of them, iirc, already confirmed to be closer to Halo 1's standards--for the Sniper Rifle, at least). The list used to be quite long, but most of the other issues I had with Halo 2's multiplayer I've come to appreciate. Melees wouldn't play as big of a part without the homing/lunging, I believe. Fall damage, even if implemented subtly as I previously wished, would feel like a giant step back in some cases now.
Seems like everybody else wants it stripped bare, and for all the wrong reasons. I don't get it.
This is a good post, but there are more things that are carrying over from 2 when I wish they wouldn't, aside from no fall damage. Mainly, the health system. They haven't addressed the concerns that people have about having only Halo's shield without the health component, which prevents you from wearing people down and changes CTF because of it (not to mention eliminating no-shield shotgun matches on Wizard). I miss it like hell. The next most obvious thing is the FOV - it's already on the narrow end among the big FPS but it's a slap in the face to Halo 1 players, and I don't even know why they changed it in the first place. Grenade timings are slightly different, and they're sticking with complicated maps. Melee homing has never sat well with me, but since it doesn't change gameplay as much it's on the back burner of the stove of my beefs with the series' changes. I continue to be baffled by the lack of classic maps, and I almost shudder to think of having to learn a new Warthog steering scheme.
abacab driver
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Just saw it.
Im so tempted to buy crackdown right now.
lol @ laser cat
Im so tempted to buy crackdown right now.
lol @ laser cat
goldenpp72
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Where is that video? 
http://download.microsoft.com/download/C/4/0/C403218A-347E-4AA1-A675-9A0AF090B575/H3_MrJukes-Betalicious.wmvgoldenpp72 said:Where is that video?
Just so everyone knows, I am keeping the OP up to date. The video is the first line of the post. I'll update it tomorrow as things come in with links to articles, videos, impressions - everything that rolls in. The most recent stuff will go at the top. I'll organize it all once things settle down.goldenpp72 said:Where is that video?
Karma Kramer
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GhaleonEB said:
So whats up... we gettin media blowout tommorrow?
Karma Kramer
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Nutter said:
Let me guess u guyz are a bunch of Halo 1 Pistol lovin assholes.
Well in the words of myself... "its on, baby... its ****ing on."
Karma Kramer
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Nutter said:We actually all hate the damn pistol.. ok maybe not hate.. but we all think it was overpowered.
Except Duderon.. who loves it.
And ah.. HELL ****ing yes.. its ON. Maybe we will go easier on all ya
Oh stop beating around the ****in bush.
I know you are lieing man. Don't even try to deny it.
Your name in on my mother ****in list now, Nutter. You and your ****in posse.
this is all in good fun people
It certainly decreases the tension, which I missed. But to be honest, I loved the fact that I didn't have to sniff around for health packs anymore.thatbox said:
A friend suggested a possible solution for both sides not too long after the December '06 EGM: Bring back the health guage, have it regenerate slowly once the player has avoided sustaining any damage after a certain period of time; the time, and the rate at which the health regenerates can be adjusted accordingly through the player traits.
A return to Halo's... 90°, was it? That would be nice.
For the record, what is Halo 2's?
I had no complaints with the grenades in Halo 2 after the first update.
But the maps, I would appreciate it if you elaborate a bit more on that. I'm trying to understand what it is that Halo 1 purists are looking for in map design.
Before, I argued that the lunges took away a bit of the "finesse" found in Halo's multiplayer's melee combat, when all I was really trying to say is that it made it too easy for scrubs to get a hit in.
The truth is that, at least in my experiences, there were few instances where I was at that range in Halo 1, they simply weren't as big of a factor in Halo 1's multiplayer. Though this could be partly thanks to the prominence of the ol' M6D.
Eric WK said:Consider me a free agent in this little competition.
8.5k games logged. Level 39. One bad mother***er.
Wait, scree free agency. I'm with my GAF brethren.
EDIT: Seriously, though. Direct your Friend Requests to Eric WK. I'd love to play with you guys.
Yeah we should play for sure because everybody on my friends list has moved to Gears. Level 40! No cheating! Unless you count BXB BXR.
Nutter said:I hope both you and Eric realize that ranks in H2 don't really mean shit. *
So why even mention them
Certainly, but if you can think of a better benchmark to demonstrate one's skill I'd like to hear it. Saying I'm a legit 39 lets you understand my skill level more than me saying "I'm a bit above average, but not good enough to be semi-pro."
In any event, if you guys don't mind, I'm going to send you, ivy and some others requests so we can play together. I need more GAFers who play Halo on my list.