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The Halo 3 Beta Thread

clashfan said:
The beta looks pretty good but do you think we will see the level of detail that is in the e3 trailer in the single player game?
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In cutscenes yes :lol

I expect it to be better than MP in SP, but not the trailer level.
 
clashfan said:
The beta looks pretty good but do you think we will see the level of detail that is in the e3 trailer in the single player game?
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In Bungie
and Stinkles
we trust.

They said the final game will meet, if not exceed, those visuals. I believe them.
 
GhaleonEB said:
BTW, I added a link to the OP of a site collecting all the medals identified in the Beta.

-List of all the known medals in the beta
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Man, I hope they really really go all out. There's still so much that can be tracked and rewarded. Where are the assist spree medals? The Flying Vehicle kills? Killing a guy with a weapon he dropped? Man cannon kills? Killing someone after they've killed you 5+ times first?

Yes, I'm a little schoolgirl when it comes to medals and I hope they add a shit-ton more.
 
JdFoX187 said:
They said that in the trailer documentary.
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I think it was more "this is our bar for real gameplay", also commented to about over shooting this bar. Thus the E3 trailer should be what single player looks like.
 
When the trailer debuted, there were multiple epic threads bebating about whether that was even realtime or not. Now Bungie is saying they'll at least hit that mark with dozens of vechicles and characters battling at once, and people are complaining.

*boggle*
 
GhaleonEB said:
When the trailer debuted, there were multiple epic threads bebating about whether that was even realtime or not. Now Bungie is saying they'll at least hit that mark with dozens of vechicles and characters battling at once, and people are complaining.

*boggle*
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I call it Killzone syndrome.
 
GhaleonEB said:
When the trailer debuted, there were multiple epic threads bebating about whether that was even realtime or not. Now Bungie is saying they'll at least hit that mark with dozens of vechicles and characters battling at once, and people are complaining.

*boggle*
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That's why i don't understand why the graphics of mp are not better. if they can achieve this in SP with all the bells and whistles and things going on, why not in mp, or at least a little better?
 
michaeld said:
That's why i don't understand why the graphics of mp are not better. if they can achieve this in SP with all the bells and whistles and things going on, why not in mp, or at least a little better?
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*slaps self*

The graphics in the Beta are spectacular. The character models look like the one in the announcement trailer and I don't know how many times Frankie has said there are still graphical touches that aren't in yet. Good god, wait until you see the final multiplayer videos before clammoring.
 
michaeld said:
Ok then but why does mp not look better? I mean that is a huge and drastic jump going from mp to sp in visuals.
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I'm sure they tried to make it look better, but when you're running a 16 multiplayer match they obviously felt they needed to sacrifice the quality of their graphical assets to get the game performing at optimal levels. Looks like they put seamless gameplay over graphics, which, is the proper move.
 
michaeld said:
That's why i don't understand why the graphics of mp are not better. if they can achieve this in SP with all the bells and whistles and things going on, why not in mp, or at least a little better?
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Dear Bungie,

please make halo 3 a little better.

-michaeld
 
michaeld said:
That's why i don't understand why the graphics of mp are not better. if they can achieve this in SP with all the bells and whistles and things going on, why not in mp, or at least a little better?
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1) I respect your opinion, but I'll respect it a lot more after you've played it. The game is spectacular.

2) I hope that in a couple days, everyone is talking about the game, not the graphics.
 
michaeld said:
What graphical touches are not in the mp beta that will be in the final?
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I don't know. But that's what Frankie said. Instead of mindlessly trolling, why don't you read some of the Bungie Weekly Updates and he explains everything in there.
 
JdFoX187 said:
*slaps self*

The graphics in the Beta are spectacular. The character models look like the one in the announcement trailer and I don't know how many times Frankie has said there are still graphical touches that aren't in yet. Good god, wait until you see the final multiplayer videos before clammoring.
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The reason for the BETA is to test the MP performance, as you know. The graphics are pretty much finalized and I doubt you'll see any drastic jump in visual quality from the BETA MP to to final.
 
FormulaOne said:
The reason for the BETA is to test the MP performance, as you know. The graphics are pretty much finalized and I doubt you'll see any drastic jump in visual quality from the BETA MP to to final.
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It's to test network performance. And like I keep saying, Frankie has said I don't know how many times that there are still things that aren't in the Beta but will be in the final version.
 
JdFoX187 said:
I don't know. But that's what Frankie said. Instead of mindlessly trolling, why don't you read some of the Bungie Weekly Updates and he explains everything in there.
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*sigh* the ad homen troll line...anyone who dares step outside of the accepted opinion is a "troll"!
 
JdFoX187 said:
I call it Killzone syndrome.
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michaeld said:
*sigh* the ad homen troll line...anyone who dares step outside of the accepted opinion is a "troll"!
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You have people saying the graphics aren't final, but you still say the game isn't that impressive. That's trolling.
 
michaeld said:
*sigh* the ad homen troll line...anyone who dares step outside of the accepted opinion is a "troll"!
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I think you're getting that rap because this line of discussion isn't particularly constructive - it's pointlessly argumentative on the eve of the Public Beta, when everyone can judge for themselves - and because people have already answered the questions you keep repeating.
 
You have yet to answer, you say "I don't know" go read updates etc...then others say these visuals are pretty much final, this is a stress test.
 
JdFoX187 said:
It's to test network performance. And like I keep saying, Frankie has said I don't know how many times that there are still things that aren't in the Beta but will be in the final version.
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I think everyone needs to just realize that this is probablly about it.

It might look slightly better, but honestly this is probably it. You know Bungie/MS wouldnt release the beta if it wasn't close to final.

Just everyone accept it. It looks great, its not going to be remembered for its graphics. Get over it! I bet it's going to stand up over time because of its gameplay anyway.
 
michaeld said:
You have yet to answer, you say "I don't know" go read updates etc...then others say these visuals are pretty much final, this is a stress test.
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I dont know what graphical touches they'll add in. I'm not a member of Bungie. But I do know Frankie has said there are things that will be added in. Are you going to believe a random forum poster or somebody who actually works with the company developing the game?
 
michaeld said:
You have yet to answer, you say "I don't know" go read updates etc...then others say these visuals are pretty much final, this is a stress test.
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You've yet to explain what you are looking for with regards to improved visuals anyway. Stop baiting people and be constructive.
 
michaeld said:
You have yet to answer, you say "I don't know" go read updates etc...then others say these visuals are pretty much final, this is a stress test.
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I'll just repeat what I said on the last page:

Frankie has said in some interviews that the MP design is all about clarity. Look at the spartants in MP - the texture of the armor. It's smooth, bright and stands out against the environment. Contrast that with the MC's armor in the trailer and campaign shot - it's much more detailed and nuanced. MP levels tend to be brightly lit, feature no atmospheric effects and have very clean geometry all in the interest of providing clarity to the combat. It's streamlined and "clean" on purpose.

Screens also don't tell the full story of what's going on in the game - tons of different kinds of elaborate weapon and explosion effects, equipement deployments, etc.
 
Son of Godzilla said:
You've yet to explain what you are looking for with regards to improved visuals anyway. Stop baiting people and be constructive.
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I'm not looking for improved graphics, I am simply wondering what has not been added yet that will be in the retail game.

The graphics are not ugly at all.
 
JdFoX187 said:
It's to test network performance. And like I keep saying, Frankie has said I don't know how many times that there are still things that aren't in the Beta but will be in the final version.
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MP = MultiPlayer/Network Performance.
 
For all we know they reduced the MP graphics so that they'd take all the flak now and when SP looks better people won't rag on it for not being Gears of War good (technically, not artistically).
 
I remember people bitching about Halo 2's multiplayer graphics as well...

Honestly though, after seeing some of the nice HD shots folks have taken of the Halo 3 beta, I just don't see the justification for the level of graphics-related complaints:

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Maybe I'm crazy, but those are some mighty sharp visuals.
 
I love H3 MP Beta graphics, they're very easy on the eyes cause they're soft, clean and no effect is overused so nothing gets annoying. It all fits together. (dual wielding a plasma pistol and a plasma rifel, charging the plasma pistol gives cool effects). Look for some of the tranparant and reflective surfaces (water and glass in valhalla, base ceiling, in snowbound, etc, everything forerunner or covenant)
michaeld said:
Company guys never bs....
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Frankie (and Bungie) are pretty candid and down to earth (save for their plans of world domination). He writes excitedly but not pr-ish, but I trust him. He was even one of the first game journalists to label Brute Force a Halo killer.

Here's everything that's ever been said about Halo 3 graphics. Mainly by Frankie.
http://h3da.ascendantjustice.com/?page_id=302
 
-ImaginaryInsider said:
I remember people bitching about Halo 2's multiplayer graphics as well...

Honestly though, after seeing some of the nice HD shots folks have taken of the Halo 3 beta, I just don't see the justification for the level of graphics-related complaints:

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Maybe I'm crazy, but those are some mighty sharp visuals.
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that looks awesome.
 
michaeld said:
Are those trees static or are they affected by gunfire etc? How are the textures? Specifically the ground.
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I don't know if all the rock textures deform, but I shot a concrete wall with the rocket launcher on High Ground last night and it put a huge, broken dent in it. (All of the game looks as good as that shot, BTW.)
 
There’s a new type of grass in the house. And by house, I mean beach. Because it’s most definitely some kind of reedy beach grass. It looks amazing. It still looks like Halo stuff – I mean, it adheres to our art style, but it’s so freaking detailed. Best of all, after a period of senseless jumping around, I noticed that the grass was being properly shadowed, with the shadow dipping in and out of the individual blades. It’s really hard to describe, but it’s exactly the kind of crap I get fascinated by. It was even bent in the correct direction for wind and weather on that level, although it does move slightly in the breeze too. Chris Carney was talking about where it should be placed and oriented to more accurately reflect the conditions of that terrain. Looked fine to me. Actually, a lot more than fine.
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It doesn't seem like th grass does that anymore, or am I wrong?
 
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