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The hardest fighting games to get into.
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I started VF with Final Showdown. Followed the tutorial for a bit to learn the basics, then branched out with Lei-Fei and got pretty decent in a fairly short time span.
Maybe it helps that I also play the supposedly difficult Tekken a lot too, but yeah, Virtua Fighter wasn't really that hard to get into.
Maybe people just get hung up on the gravity or something.
freeofgreed
Member
Yeah VF5 was surprisingly very easy for me to get into even more so then other fighter games I've played. I think it's the perfect example of easier to learn, difficult to master.
Correct. The hard part is putting all those moves together and developing an offense. Learning the moves can take you an hour. Developing an offense can take you a few days.
I always thought MKX was like anime games in a way though. High/low/left/right mixups with a ton of damage and them teleports
Terareflection
Member
I actually think that VF is the one of the easiest games to get into because of the great tutorial in VF4EVO, and the ease of execution for non-Akira characters.
To each their own...
To each their own...
And I really do think Tekken is among the harder games on the list to its detriment. With Tag 2, which is what people with no arcade access are playing, you're learning 60 or so matchups for just one character (and you're playing a team of 2. Not just that but basic movement requires consistency with a stick.
I say this as one of the people more or less regularly posting in the Tekken community thread and I've really warned up to the game as of late.
I say this as one of the people more or less regularly posting in the Tekken community thread and I've really warned up to the game as of late.
sixteen-bit
Member
Brad or the Bryants
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Jotamide
Unconfirmed Member
"This is too difficult."
Here's a mode that makes combos and supers much easier to pull.
"I don't wanna play in easy mode"
...ok.
That tutorial is great but it bombards you with a lot of information. I doubt people go through that and have all the specifics down right away. I think by the time you get to the 'throw escape guard' lesson, you've lost like 90% of other people. It definitely takes awhile to get good at VF. It's even harder for people weaned on 2D fighters I think.
Marvel vs. Capcom.
It's just crazy. I press a lot of buttons and let fate decide everything. Tekken, Street Fighter, Virtua Fighter, Soul Calibur etc. have never presented me with any issues, but this game broke my will to even try. It could've just been laziness, but I'm going to go with this.
It's just crazy. I press a lot of buttons and let fate decide everything. Tekken, Street Fighter, Virtua Fighter, Soul Calibur etc. have never presented me with any issues, but this game broke my will to even try. It could've just been laziness, but I'm going to go with this.
Kent
Member
What exactly do you mean by this?
The entire point of KI's combo system is to, essentially, prevent this from happening - by making it so you make combos, rather than memorize them. You just need to learn the basic structure of a combo and what a specific character's specials are, and you're basically good to go.
Bloodporne
Member
Art of Fighting 2 was an absolute nightmare to me back in the day. Special moves were hard to pull off and never worked anyway due to the insane difficulty. It took me endless tries to even make it to the third opponent.
This was the AES cartridge by the way.
This was the AES cartridge by the way.
Pai is pretty good too. She doesn't hit so hard but she has easy combos and a good set of moves.
Imbarkus
As Sartre noted in his contemplation on Hell in No Exit, the true horror is other members.
Street Fighter III is fairly impenetrable. Not a good game with which to hop online as a beginner.
My real answer is Weaponlord.
Packed to the gills with technique, but too short on frames of animation to work with. I say it needs a reboot.
My real answer is Weaponlord.
Packed to the gills with technique, but too short on frames of animation to work with. I say it needs a reboot.
Tizoc
Member
Wow I was unaware of this. As someone who likes combos in his fighting games, albeit not necessarily very long combos, I found KoF 13's combo system nice and fun. Just go for the simple options, no need to risk it on strict timed moves etc.
Strangelove77
Member
It pains me that I couldn't get a grasp of Persona 4 Arena since I love Persona 4 and I liked Blazblue. I also couldn't get into Guilty Gear.
Thewonandonly
Junior Member
All of them there is no such thing as a easy fighting game. Thought I was a boss playing the campaign and with my friends because I would mostly win. Nope jump online and get my ass whooped 5000 different ways when I only managed to get a uppercut on the other player.
This is character dependent. A 3S beginner, SF series vet with good execution would have no problems jumping online as ken.
Ivan Amiibo
Banned
Simple/easy mode puts you at a handicap where you can't reach the same level of success as someone playing normally, and it feels understandably belittling to play "the mode for players that are too shitty to learn the real combos."
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Virtua Fighter slow? Which Virtua Fighter game were you playing? The original? Virtua Fighter and Killer Instinct share their "easy to pick up, hard to master" foundation. A noob can pick up both, mash buttons and fend for themselves ok, but a vet will always destroy them.
I'm yet to play a fighting game that eases people in as well as either VF or KI.
I'm yet to play a fighting game that eases people in as well as either VF or KI.
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
They made Roman Cancels super easy in Xrd.
El Sabroso
Member
ãInaba Residentã
Banned
I don't want to play with a handicap. I'm not going to learn how to actually play and will become dependent on it. Thats no fun to me
Another48Hours
Banned
Clayfighter 2and 64, if you find a person who knows the game you can't win. No luck, or button mashing will help you. Both games take a bit to get good at because of the unbalanced controls, and how mechanics seem to be made to attack the opponent based on the exact place they are standing from you with no room for mistakes.
Now in terms of complications that's between VF, and KOF.
Now in terms of complications that's between VF, and KOF.
Arc Christelle
Member
Tekken
VF
ASW games.
VF
ASW games.
Osu 16 Bit
Member
That's true, and was true for Injustice, but the pace of the neutral game is still slower. Plus the speed and recovery of normal moves is more like a 3D fighting game with the "my turn, your turn" turn based feel. So I can keep up in the neutral much easier than something like Marvel or anime.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Guilty Gear, Mahvel 3, Blazblue and VF.
TacosNSalsa
Member
Personally for me it was Marvel. A few years ago I tried to get into it and played some of the fellas from Next Level. They beat my characters literally to all four corners of the screen and when they knocked one out ,if I didn't block correctly in the next 2 seconds , the whole thing started again . I swear even though I was sitting at the stick I watched more than I played.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
The ones I don't give a shit about
I think there needs to be some distinction here because getting into a game as in learning to do basic action/movements/mechanics is much different than getting into a game competitively.
Smash is pretty easy to get into at entry level but very hard to get into at a competitive level. Same for SF4. Every competitive game that is played by a lot of people is hard to get into the competitive scene.
MVC2/MVC3/Skullgirls are hard games to get into at a basic levels.
You have to already be knowledgeable about SF 2D fundamentals but now you have to add in air dashes, faster ground movements, flights, teleport, air combos, super jump and more unique character mechanics. That already puts these games near anime fighter level although you have less to worry about on a per character basis.
However after that you have to learn the team mechanics. Raw tags, DHCs, THCs, TACs, crossover counters. Assists, snap backs etc. Not to mention you need to not only learn 3 characters but learn how they work together.
So you put all these things together, ramp up the speed and that makes the games hard to get into even at an entry level.
Smash is pretty easy to get into at entry level but very hard to get into at a competitive level. Same for SF4. Every competitive game that is played by a lot of people is hard to get into the competitive scene.
MVC2/MVC3/Skullgirls are hard games to get into at a basic levels.
You have to already be knowledgeable about SF 2D fundamentals but now you have to add in air dashes, faster ground movements, flights, teleport, air combos, super jump and more unique character mechanics. That already puts these games near anime fighter level although you have less to worry about on a per character basis.
However after that you have to learn the team mechanics. Raw tags, DHCs, THCs, TACs, crossover counters. Assists, snap backs etc. Not to mention you need to not only learn 3 characters but learn how they work together.
So you put all these things together, ramp up the speed and that makes the games hard to get into even at an entry level.
Another48Hours
Banned
No such thing? Ballz says hi.
Evidently it isn't.
Teknopathetic
Member
"Evidently it isn't."
In what way?
In what way?
Arc Christelle
Member
I'd argue that 2K2UM combos are much more difficult than XIII.
I Wanna Be The Guy
U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
All of them except Divekick. Goddamn I wish that game took off. I would still regularly play it if it was possible to find matches online. The only fighting game where I can play as more than a few characters at most. The only fighting game I can take a long break from, come back to it and instantly remember how to play. It's also the only fighting game that wasn't intimidating playing against other people(when people were actually playing it).
Dash_Riprock
Member
3rd Strike: The Thread.
You either learn to parry and rise or fail utterly and stay bottom rung forever.
You either learn to parry and rise or fail utterly and stay bottom rung forever.
Yup
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Gotta say anime games. Brain is not wired like that and i don't even bother with things like MvC.
MissDeviling
Member
I bought BB because I thought Jin looked cool to play as, and figured the game wouldn't be much more complicated than SF.
What a huge mistake. ;_;
What a huge mistake. ;_;