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I'll wait to see what the disc has and if it improves upon or even offers up the same content as the HD DVD version before I decide to sell off the HD DVD version. But that collector's set is very tempting.
 
I watched Trading Places last night on HD-DVD. It was the first time in years I had seen the movie unedited (after seeing scenes here and there on TBS etcetera.) I had forgotten how funny Eddie Murphy used to be, and was shocked at how similar Charlie Murphy's facial expressions are compared to his brother's muggings. Overall it's a very funny movie and looked good on my tv. Jamie Lee Curtis looked even more mannish in HD, but her breasts were fan-fucking-tastic.

It's hard to imagine the game looking all that much better, but it's definitely not a visual showpiece. It's $9.98 at deep discount on HD-DVD, no shipping cost, pretty good deal for a classic comedy.
 
So wait, if the 50 dollar collectors editions only extras is postcards and a lenticular I will pass. That's usually stuff that is given out free at Best Buy and Wal-mart. The movie cash is good, but again that is something that is usually threw in the case for free to get you to rebuy a movie.
 
Ponn01 said:
So wait, if the 50 dollar collectors editions only extras is postcards and a lenticular I will pass. That's usually stuff that is given out free at Best Buy and Wal-mart. The movie cash is good, but again that is something that is usually threw in the case for free to get you to rebuy a movie.

That's what I tought....not really into comic books and all.....unless the transfer is different which I highly doubt.

Great news for Blu-ray only owners though.
 
Weren't there rumors of a new video encode? And I don't remember off-hand, but does the HD DVD have lossless sound? I own it but I'm at work.
 
VanMardigan said:
Weren't there rumors of a new video encode? And I don't remember off-hand, but does the HD DVD have lossless sound? I own it but I'm at work.

The rumors have been flying that the video encode will be new. As for the sound of the HD-DVD, it was TrueHD.
 
http://www.audioholics.com/news/editorials/format-war-blu-ray-up-hd-dvd-down?date=491620080313

Looking for a cheap Blu-ray player?

The long awaited end to the format war may help consumers by clearing up some confusion created by choice in HD optical discs, but it is not bringing about better pricing to the consumer.

EngadgetHD: Lack of competition sends Blu-ray player prices upward
TG Daily: Blu-ray player prices hit 2008 highs as competition dwindles
TG Daily: Pricewatch: HD DVD in free fall, Blu-ray continues upward trend

Based on price comparison research performed by TG Daily, the demise of HD DVD and the industry charge to embrace Blu-ray Disc (BD) does not seem to be increasing market competitiveness that invariably should lead to reduced prices. Worse, current prices for players on the market are not just stagnating, but are actually drifting back up.

Interesting eh?
 
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And I suppose that prevents you from actually commenting on what he posted, which affects all of us.

I might have gotten this if i didnt arleady have it on DVD.

I think this is one of those movies that would actually warrant a double dip, considering the type of movie it is and the stellar rating it got. Unlike a comedy or something. Then again, I just read about the lack of supplements compared to the dvd. Damn you Fox.

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Damn, that review is going to make me buy the movie. WOW.

hdd said:
Stomping the original DVD, outclassing the theatrical experience, and putting other Blu-ray stunners to shame, the Blu-ray edition of 'I, Robot' quite simply delivers one of the best transfers I've ever seen.

hdd said:
Floored by 'I, Robot's astounding picture quality? Wait until you get a load of the potent DTS HD 5.1 Master Lossless Audio track Fox has managed to master. Once again I'm at a loss to point out specific scenes; the entire mix is so extraordinary that I stopped taking notes and merely attempted to soak it all in.
 
VanMardigan said:
And I suppose that prevents you from actually commenting on what he posted, which affects all of us.
How does supposed player prices rising affect those of us with players?
 
captive said:
How does supposed player prices rising affect those of us with players?

I dunno, maybe there are folks who'd like more than just one player. Or a cheaper secondary player, or a cheaper player to buy as a gift. Or they want cheaper player so more folks can buy into the format and allow studios to pump out more BD content for us. Heck, for folks who spent all of last year whining about how the format war was stagnating growth and subsequently content, you guys sure as hell seem comfortable with the status quo, despite the fact that the format won't ever take off as long as the prices remain artificially high. Have BD sales exploded yet? If it were, Para and Uni would be in a bigger rush to flood the market with content.
 
The cheapest price seems to be Deep Discount (because of the free shipping). Anybody found a better price than ~$28 shipped for I, Robot?
 
VanMardigan said:
I dunno, maybe there are folks who'd like more than just one player. Or a cheaper secondary player, or a cheaper player to buy as a gift. Or they want cheaper player so more folks can buy into the format and allow studios to pump out more BD content for us. Heck, for folks who spent all of last year whining about how the format war was stagnating growth and subsequently content, you guys sure as hell seem comfortable with the status quo, despite the fact that the format won't ever take off as long as the prices remain artificially high.
My problem with the posted article is it is an article claiming prices for blu-ray players have risen. Yet a cursory glance at amazon shows at least two players under 400 bucks. And it uses sources from known anti-sony websites such as endgadget, when all the shit was going down in February I could practically taste their bitter tears coming out of my monitor.

Have BD sales exploded yet? If it were, Para and Uni would be in a bigger rush to flood the market with content.
So you honestly expected million sellers and hardware to fly off the shelves after the announcements and declarations of HD DVD's death? Really?
These things take years not days and weeks, not even months.
 
captive said:
How does supposed player prices rising affect those of us with players?
I didn't post the article because BD players are sky rocketing or anything. I think it's actually inevitable that they will drop within the upcoming months, as BD now needs to compete with DVD... that and they have to clear out older profiles to make room for the (likely to be quite pricey) 2.0 players.

As to how it affects those already with players. Not much I suppose, other than that stagnating prices would slow the pace of adoption, therefore less media for all. You don't see these cause and effect scenarios before writing your responses?
 
captive said:
So you honestly expected million sellers and hardware to fly off the shelves after the announcements and declarations of HD DVD's death? Really?
These things take years not days and weeks, not even months.

Millions?? ROFL

How about a hundred grand, is that bar low enough for you?

Here's something that's even MORE worrying for those who want more content (ie all of us):

gizmodo said:
Speaking of Universal, we're currently looking at a months-long black hole of Universal, Dreamworks and Paramount's releases, thanks to their belated integration (or re-integration) into the Blu-ray fold. Not only will it be late spring or early summer before we see any of their flicks hit Blu, we're hearing that they might have trouble buying dual-layer 50GB Blu-ray discs to produce them on, because the more settled Blu-ray studios have already purchased the entire 2008 stock—not hard to do, thanks to the limited number of replication sites and lower yields. This means that they'll only have access to 25GB discs, which could mean fewer features and lower-quality video and audio.

I'm sure every website that I can ever post is anti-Sony if you're a Sony fanboy, but this would seriously suck if true. Uni and Para seemed to be getting owned for backing HD DVD. 25GB BD's wont' be enough if the BDA wants Uni to clean up their encodes and put out lossless tracks instead of DD Plus (which is something I'm personally hoping for as well).

These things are all barriers to the kind of content output we all want, and bashing folks for pointing them out just shows console fanboyism transposed to HD movie discussion.
 
tha_con said:
VanMardigan...can you please quit. Please? It's honestly getting tired.

quit what? It's a legitimate debate that directly concerns the topic at hand. I also discussed the fantastic I, Robot review so maybe you want to talk about that if you don't feel like talking about the hurdles to even more content for us.

Besides this isnt the thread for this, this is the thread for discussing movies

And what do you think the post about Uni and Para movies on BD was about?
 
VanMardigan said:
Millions?? ROFL

How about a hundred grand, is that bar low enough for you?
I wasnt the one setting goals, you were when you said: "Have BD sales exploded yet?"
I couldnt care less about the adoption, im not going to worry myself about something not in my control.

Here's something that's even MORE worrying for those who want more cotent (ie all of us):
Well they are multi-billion dollar companies i think they can afford to open a blu-ray replicating plant. Maybe they can use the payoff money they got from Toshiba?

I'm sure every website that I can ever post is anti-Sony if you're a Sony fanboy, but this would seriously suck if true. Uni and Para seemed to be getting owned for backing HD DVD. 25GB BD's wont' be enough if the BDA wants Uni to clean up their encodes and put out lossless tracks instead of DD Plus (which is something I'm personally hoping for as well).
And im sure all the quotes i could get from endgadget during the time of the events still wouldnt prove to your their bias. Nor all the "journos" on TWIB and digg that were openly bashing blu-ray and PS3, even at the time these announcements were happening wouldnt prove it to you.

These things are all barriers to the kind of content output we all want, and bashing folks for pointing them out just shows console fanboyism transposed to HD movie discussion.
Im not even going to address your not so subtle attempt at calling me a fanboy, obviously you have your opinion about me so whatever im not going to argue with you.
Besides this isnt the thread for this, this is the thread for discussing movies.
 
amazon.com has " I am Legend" on Blu-ray for 18.95 right now,it was just 24.95,dont know how long this will last.I cancelled my old order and just placed a new one.

With my 10% off still working I got it for $17 :)
 
Matrix said:
amazon.com has " I am Legend" on Blu-ray for 18.95 right now,it was just 24.95,dont know how long this will last.I cancelled my old order and just placed a new one.

With my 10% off still working I got it for $17 :)

Thanks for the heads up. Just grabbed it.
 
thaivo said:
this headline - TG Daily: Blu-ray player prices hit 2008 highs as competition dwindles - is retarded since we're only 74 days into the year 2008 and even then barely 30 days past Toshiba throwing in the towel. So, uh, no?
captive said:
Anyway. I-Robot Review at HDD is up.
http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/613/irobot.html

I would have thought they would have lambasted the movie, but they gave it 4/5 stars
5/5 for video and audio too.

I might have gotten this if i didnt arleady have it on DVD.
I'd love to buy this movie but Fox didn't see fit to stock any of the local Best Buy stores with it. Nor ID4. Nor Ice Age. I have gift cards I want to use people! (And don't want to pay for shipping)
 
Matrix said:
amazon.com has " I am Legend" on Blu-ray for 18.95 right now,it was just 24.95,dont know how long this will last.I cancelled my old order and just placed a new one.

With my 10% off still working I got it for $17 :)

Thanks. Just ordered it too.


And I liked I Am Legend.
 
kaching said:
They're getting owned for being wishy washy with their HDM release schedule in general.

No. But the problems will hopefully sort themselves out. Isn't Sweeney Todd rumored for next month?
 
VanMardigan said:
quit what? It's a legitimate debate that directly concerns the topic at hand. I also discussed the fantastic I, Robot review so maybe you want to talk about that if you don't feel like talking about the hurdles to even more content for us.



And what do you think the post about Uni and Para movies on BD was about?

I'm just saying, you've been almost nothing but sour grapes since the 'format war' was over. You constantly complain about prices, rebuying movies that are / aren't worth it, prices of players going 'up' (when they aren't) and you continue to disucss topics directly related to the 'format war'.

I'd really like it if this thread was only HD movie discussion, content coming to the market, and not about format wars, player price, Paramount / Universal being 'owned' etc.

Your posts about this are entirely irrelevant. Create a new thread if you really want to discuss the state of the HD market. This is the HD Movie thread...where we discuss HD movies. I think that's pretty straight forward?

I'm not alone in these 'wishes' that you restrain yourself.
 
tha_con said:
I'm just saying, you've been almost nothing but sour grapes since the 'format war' was over.
This is the HD Movie thread...where we discuss HD movies. I think that's pretty straight forward?

That's some bullshit right there, or you just conveniently skip my movie posts. I've done more posts about movies in this thread than anybody else (including you), I've posted links to sales, discussed the benefits of upscaling on Ps3 and HD audio etc. The VAST majority of my posts in this thread, and it's not even CLOSE, are about HD movies. If you choose to focus on my posts about the price of hardware/software, and make bullshit claims about sour grapes, that's your call.

And to label discussions about software and hardware prices as format war? :lol
 
VanMardigan said:
You can't claim they've moved anywhere near as decisively as the other studios have been in the last 4-5 months at least, regardless of allegiance. Uni's and Para's release schedule in that period has been the very essence of noncommital, even though they ostensibly chose a side.

I'd like to see them get their act together as much as you, but they got caught with their pants down, plain and simple.
 
tha_con said:
I'm not alone in these 'wishes' that you restrain yourself.
:lol I think for those of us that have read Van's posts in the past, he's actually quite mellow now. :lol That and he actually has a BD player, which has made him much more neutral overall. There are more HD DVD die hards out there... I suppose like me..

I think though that the article is relevant to this thread, as it relates to the current cost of entry into HD, which is quite significant now, especially because HD DVD is gone.
 
bune duggy said:
this headline - TG Daily: Blu-ray player prices hit 2008 highs as competition dwindles - is retarded since we're only 74 days into the year 2008 and even then barely 30 days past Toshiba throwing in the towel. So, uh, no?
I guess 90 days later would be better?
 
VanMardigan said:
Millions?? ROFL

How about a hundred grand, is that bar low enough for you?

Here's something that's even MORE worrying for those who want more content (ie all of us):



I'm sure every website that I can ever post is anti-Sony if you're a Sony fanboy, but this would seriously suck if true. Uni and Para seemed to be getting owned for backing HD DVD. 25GB BD's wont' be enough if the BDA wants Uni to clean up their encodes and put out lossless tracks instead of DD Plus (which is something I'm personally hoping for as well).

These things are all barriers to the kind of content output we all want, and bashing folks for pointing them out just shows console fanboyism transposed to HD movie discussion.

Here is a response from one of the br.com mods, and I know that Penton will chime in soon also...

The poster is saying the buzz words, but doesn't have clue one what they mean.

What is replication? It is manufacturing a disc. They make a BD25 or BD50. Take the polycarbonate base (1 mm) stamp on a the data L0 (metal metal punches marks), aluminize (if they are doing BD50 add a separator and L1 layer) then the top layer (0.1 or 0.075 mm) and then the hard coat.

They don't buy a disc, and then do something to put data on it (that would be called DUPLICATION).

Universal's delays have to do with needing the time to author, and line up replication slots. You can bet their first titles will be be HD DVD ports (a la Warner).

I think what some people are saying Van is that you (and others still) seem to have some incessant need to dig up and post every little negative thing towards blu that you can find no matter how little there is to back it up.
I do not know whether you guys have some macro that runs every morning that says "find negative+blu ray" or what but you are in capable of just enjoying the ride and the experience.
Every post about a movie or something is followed soon after by either bitching about prices or profiles or posting some blog that you found.
Just relax and let things happen as they happen.
 
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