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Az987 said:
Has anyone gotten the Ray Harryhausen boxset that just came out? Im really tempted to pick it up, although I dont like how it comes with '20 Million Miles to Earth' since I alread own it.
This weekend I grabbed Sinbad separately and also got both other movies netflixed (I am expecting they are coming out probably in a short while).

Sinbad's quality is outstanding. Well, let me preface that. It is outstanding as LONG AS YOU KNOW what you are getting into. These were NOT big budget movies. To make matters worse, because of all of the optical effects and stop motion inserted into live action, there are obviously parts where the actual pristine negatives themselves were already worn just due to tons of cutting and compositing. What this means is that there is HEAVY grain in the film from the low budget and film stock used and there is visible wear on the film especially during the stop motion sequences. It's not because they got a bad print or didn't bother remastering it... this is how the movie looks. So with that preface in place, the movie(s) looks outstanding. Just don't expect it to look like Iron Man or even Nightmare Before Christmas. Of course the alternative is to DNR the hell out of the movie which would give it that smooth bright look, but on a movie like this DNR would cost all of the amazingly intricate work Harryhausen's company put into the miniatures, so it is wonderful to see Sony left that intact, grain and all.

The other two movies (It Came From Beneath the Sea and Earth vs. the Flying Saucers). The actual quality of the movies is pretty much identical to above except that overall the prints are a tiny more worn just due to age. Still, this is the BEST these movies have ever looked and are a dramatic leap in quality over the DVDs. The colorization process on these is on par with 20M Miles. You either prefer it or you don't. Personally I feel the colorization process actually brings the movies up to a level close to similarly budgeted technicolor movies. I'd go so far as to say I PREFER the colorized versions, and this is coming from someone who has seen ALL of these movies dozens of times in B&W dating all the way back to shock theater on sunday afternoons on our local independent station during the early 80's. My nostlgia is still for the b&w versions and I have watched the b&w version of 20M Miles, but we've (my daughter, niece and myself) actually watched the colored version a couple of times and I have had to watch the b&w version by myself just once so far.

yeah, a longish post, but these movies are kind of confusing given the quality of the actual film used and available and the colorization process on 3 out of 4 in the set.
 
brandonh83 said:
Yay just got Indiana Jones, as I'm one of those guys who still digs these kinds of action/adventure films. :D

when you say "these kinds" you mean "bad ones" right?
 
O yeah speed racer gave me a bad headache...I enjoyed it, but immediately after I finished it I had this bad head ache that lasted all day.
 
StoOgE said:
when you say "these kinds" you mean "bad ones" right?
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I watched Closer on Blu Ray recently, the picture didn't blow me away, but Natalie Portman in higher-def was good enough.

Yes, Sleeping Beauty looks incredible. The audio on Ratatouille on Blu-Ray will give you boners, check it.

No no no, TWO boners.
 
I don't see how this last Indy is any different from the previous three. The movies have progressively gotten more ridiculous with each installment, however the second one was by far the worst, so bad. This one had the ultimate discovery, which was
aliens
. Then again, I didn't grow up with Indiana Jones so my childhood wasn't "raped" as South Park so aptly put it. I did watch all the first three in succession before watching the fourth though. Two is so fucking terrible, I don't know how anyone can like it. The "feel" of the films felt the same to me, this is coming from someone who didn't watch all four movies years apart like many other people. The first one is great, the second one is unwatchable for me, the third one is good, the fourth one is much better than the second one. There's a bit too much CGI considering the past Indy movies didn't have much.

I hope none of these people dissing Indy 4 enjoyed a movie such as Speed Racer.


In other news, my amazon.com order has shipped, two of the items are Eastern Promises and The Ultimate Matrix Collection. I was expecting it to ship on Tuesday instead of Monday.
 
I don't see how this last Indy is any different from the previous three.

It isn't. It's just as fun and crazy as the others.

There's a bit too much CGI considering the past Indy movies didn't have much.

The past Indy movies didn't have any because of when they came out. They did have a lot of "at-the-time" effects techniques and if CGI was being used at the time, I think it would be silly to assume that they wouldn't have had any.
 
brandonh83 said:
They did have a lot of "at-the-time" effects techniques and if CGI was being used at the time, I think it would be silly to assume that they wouldn't have had any.

But the special/visual effects were for the sake of furthering the plot. Monkey swinging or killer ants or random gophers are hardly used for developing a story.


brandonh83 said:
It isn't. It's just as fun and crazy as the others.

Replaced focus on historical/spiritual with that of the metaphysical.
Replaced fun character bits with too much CG and Action sequences.

But let's not argue. I enjoyed KOTS, but yes, it WAS different.
 
nope, arks being opened and blowing up/melting Nazi's isn't crazy at all. how dare I think such a thing.

anyway I should have known better to bring up this debate here. my bad.

Replaced focus on historical/spiritual with that of the metaphysical.

and this is where we delve into the fascinating world of semantics. not that you're wrong, I just think each is just as far-fetched and out there as the other, but that's just me.

But the special/visual effects were for the sake of furthering the plot. Monkey swinging or killer ants or random gophers are hardly used for developing a story.

the monkey part isn't my favorite part of the movie per se, but the gophers... what, three? four seconds of the 2+ hour film? and who can really argue with the ants killing that guy in a completely screwed up and disturbing way? not I.
 
Yes that Picard image is highly original and hilarious each and every time it's used on these forums, a thousand times a day.

nothing personal, Gary. ;)

ANYWAY, the video transfer is pretty good and the sound is INCREDIBLE. they just blasted out of Area 51 on the rocket sled and it kicked my ass. wow.
 
Wow, there are actually people who liked Indy 4? I don't think I've ever walked into a theater so excited and left so utterly disappointed.
 
brandonh83 said:
and this is where we delve into the fascinating world of semantics.
Hardly.

Q: How many people believe in a religion?
A: Quite a few. Even if you think it's a joke, there are a lot of timeless issues in religious texts. People identify with those, it resonates.

Q: How many people believe in the
aliens/ghosts
?
A: A smaller portion. Even movies with
aliens
ground it with something "human". There isn't anything to draw from. We don't understand an
aliens
life, etc. They didn't use the presence of the
aliens in Indy 4
to send a message. They kept it a secret until the final Act. IE: They could have tied them to the problem/frustration over "believing" sometime. See: Signs, etc.


EDIT: Didn't know how sensitive people would, be so I spoiler tagged some Indy 4 stuff. So if your an KOTS virgin, don't look.
 
brandonh83 said:
nope, arks being opened and blowing up/melting Nazi's isn't crazy at all. how dare I think such a thing.

anyway I should have known better to bring up this debate here. my bad.



and this is where we delve into the fascinating world of semantics. not that you're wrong, I just think each is just as far-fetched and out there as the other, but that's just me.

My problems arent with the Sci-Fi stuff, though it was a departure (the other Indy movies were about Archeology/Gods and past human beliefs)

1) Indy was pussywhipped.
2) Too over the top. The other movies were over the top. Very much so, but not Shia Lebouf swinging through the trees with monkeys that fought communists for unknown reasons, or surviving nuclear blasts in fridges.
3) CG.. similar to the new star wars movies, it seemed like CG was used in the place of creativity in many scenes.
4) They did the Tomb Raider thing with the over the top ancient contraptions that are just far to intricate. Past Indy movies didnt really have this beyond a rolling bolder and moving walls with spikes. You never got anything like that Mayan temple at the end that was a fucking transformer.

The only scene that really felt like an Indy movie to me was the scene where Indy and Shia were on the bike running through the school from the guys chasing them in the car... the rest of it was a bit much.

It lacked the charm of the older movies and felt like an "Indy by numbers".. they checked off all the boxes that make an "Indy" movie, but it failed.
 
Indy 4 gets my vote for being the biggest letdown of the year. While it had some good moments there and there, the movie was just painful to watch at times. Just give me the original 3 on Blu-ray already.
 
Buckethead said:
Hardly.

Q: How many people believe in a religion?
A: Quite a few. Even if you think it's a joke, there are a lot of timeless issues in religious texts. People identify with those, it resonates.

Q: How many people believe in the aliens/ghosts?
A: A smaller portion. Even movies with aliens ground it with something "human". There isn't anything to draw from. We don't understand an aliens life, etc.

I said you weren't wrong about it, but it's just... one of those things. I realize two out of the four movies sorta centered around Biblical artifacts, but I don't think the storytellers sat down and said "ok these movies are about founded and REAL stuff that... could MAYBE be real..." I mean, Temple of Doom comes to mind. I know that one isn't liked much either. :lol

but to me Indiana Jones has just been about the good doctor in pursuit of crazy shit and this one was no different to me. perhaps tonally, sure, but after four movies I'm glad it wasn't yet another Biblical item.

It lacked the charm of the older movies and felt like an "Indy by numbers".. they checked off all the boxes that make an "Indy" movie, but it failed.

surely any sequel could feel this way, no matter what. I'd certainly argue the same could be said about Temple of Doom and Last Crusade.

I should probably stop here though, this isn't the Indy 4 thread and I don't want to get off-topic.
 
brandonh83 said:
but to me Indiana Jones has just been about the good doctor in pursuit of crazy shit and this one was no different to me.

Yeah, like I said I liked KOTS and don't think they "raped" it. I want an Indy V, I just hope that they listen to the complaints and take them into consideration. Even if they forsake the biblical stuff, focus on the professor/archeology stuff more...

The Frank Darabond script was awesome, for those who read it, it's too bad they changed it.
That's my major problem with the movie, seems like they didn't go with 1 strong idea, they mish-mashed them.

But whatever, I'm buying the Blu Ray tomorrow.
 
Nicodimas said:
< hates opening a movie to tear through the actual plastic intself...

Fing annoying.

yeah. something that used to be a big problem was how the top sticker would overlap the white Blu-ray logo on the top and sometimes removing the sticker would pull some of it off, it happened on my Prisoner of Azkaban Blu-ray and I was thoroughly pissed. finally they started shaping the sticker to not cover the logo.
 
Flo_Evans said:
Wow, there are actually people who liked Indy 4? I don't think I've ever walked into a theater so excited and left so utterly disappointed.

Already forgot the three times Lucas raped Star Wars?
 
The Main Event said:
Indy 4 gets my vote for being the biggest letdown of the year. While it had some good moments there and there, the movie was just painful to watch at times. Just give me the original 3 on Blu-ray already.
again, how could anyone like Indy 2, piece of shit.

I didn't know people got so sensitive over the departure from PURE archaeology and Christianity. They did intrude on another culture (Mayans?) like the other Indy movies.

I don't know, I just don't hold the Indy movies in the same high regard as other people seem to, they didn't blow me away to be honest. In fact, I'm surprised two of them are in the IMDB top 250 (well maybe not the first one, if there were no sequels, that would have been wonderful).
 
I thought Indy 4 was better than 2. And I didn't hate the premise-shift. What ruins it is the complete lack of chemistry between characters and the flat delivery of lines.
 
Well the dialogue in any of the Indy movies never really impressed me. Bringing back Karen Allen already made the female character better than Indy 2 and 3. It's hard for me to defend this movie since I didn't "love it", but I enjoyed it, and everyone else seems to hate it so it's a tough position to be in.
 
Xater said:
Already forgot the three times Lucas raped Star Wars?
Heh, don't remind me. I can't speak for anyone else, but i cared about Indy a lot more than i did about SW, so KOTCS disappointed me way more than the prequels. And yes, i won't be buying it any time soon.
 
WOW this Target exclusive Indiana Jones KOTCS BR set is awesome. You get a 74 page hardcover artbook with the discs inside for no extra cost.
 
Costanza said:
WOW this Target exclusive Indiana Jones KOTCS BR set is awesome. You get a 74 page hardcover artbook with the discs inside for no extra cost.

uhhhhh i can't find anything like what you're describing on the Target website...

link?
 
I saw Harold and Kumar yesterday. Looked fine, sound was overkill (DTS HD MA 7.1) for this movie. I'm trying to figure out why the movie has Guantanamo Bay in the title if they're in that place for less than 5 minutes. :lol

It was dumb fun at times, but just plain dumb in other spots. Neil Patrick Harris saved this movie from being utter garbage.
 
yeah, I'm grabbing indy 4 from target also. basically like $3 more than I would pay from Amazon and I get the art book.

For the record I enjoyed Indy 4 quite a bit. My ranking of the movies would go Raiders, Last Crusade, Skull, Temple. I also enjoyed Phantom Menace quite a bit, though my thoughts on the other two fluctuate wildly. AOTC is definitely the worst of the star wars movies by quite a ways. ROTS has many problems, but its worst parts are still a bit better than the worst parts of ROTJ... unfortunately its best parts are nowhere near as good as the best parts from ROTJ. my star wars would go empire, anh, phantom, , ROTJ/ROTS, , , , , , , spit in my eye , , , , , AOTC.

FWIW I saw all 10 movies in the theaters during their original theatrical runs, except for star wars which I saw during its second run in '78 (I was only 2 when star wars came out).
 
Wow, the Target Indy 4 Blu-ray looks really nice. How much is to going for? I liked the film, definitely better than Temple of Doom, and I was going to hold off until they release all of them on Blu-ray. But that looks really nice.
 
borghe said:
my star wars would go empire, anh, phantom, , ROTJ/ROTS, , , , , , , spit in my eye , , , , , AOTC.

Phantom Menace the third best Star Wars?? What?? It's the only one of the prequels that I can't watch again. Little Anakin and Jar Jar make a potent one-two combo of screen vomit. Podracing was cool but offset by the fact that little whiny Anakin was doing the driving and totally knocked any shred of credibility out of that scene. No way that little kid wins a podrace. He looks totally lost. :lol

I'd put PM as the worst, followed by AOTC as second worse, and ROTS as the third worse. Yeah, the prequels can't make the top three for me, though ROTS was easily the best one imo.
 
Uhh, wish we had Target in Canada. I still don't know if I should bother picking up this edition of Indy 4 or just wait for a blu-ray boxset of the whole damn thing.
 
So, I'm pretty pumped for the Bond movies coming out next Tuesday..

Thunderball, Dr. No and From Russia with love will be mine...

I really wish they would have put out the Connery movies first, because two of my three favorites arent out yet :(

I really want Goldfinger and You only live twice to go along with Thunderball...

and while I do like some of the Roger Moore movies, I'm not a fan of the ones they are putting out.
 
VanMardigan said:
Phantom Menace the third best Star Wars?? What?? It's the only one of the prequels that I can't watch again. Little Anakin and Jar Jar make a potent one-two combo of screen vomit. Podracing was cool but offset by the fact that little whiny Anakin was doing the driving and totally knocked any shred of credibility out of that scene. No way that little kid wins a podrace. He looks totally lost. :lol
Liam Neeson's acting as well as valiant efforts by Portman and McGregor make the movie enough for me, not to mention the best score of the PT by a mile. And as much as you can bitch about Jake, Hayden wasn't any better. :\

I'd put PM as the worst, followed by AOTC as second worse, and ROTS as the third worse. Yeah, the prequels can't make the top three for me, though ROTS was easily the best one imo.
you need to go back and watch ROTJ. It is awful. Anyone who can honestly place ROTJ better than the best of the PT is blinded by nostalgia. The ONLY redeeming qualities of that stinker were the throne room scenes and the final space battle. So basically 20 minutes of a 2+ hour movie... and the ewoks are EVERY BIT as offensive and grating as JarJar. Just typing this out reaffirms for me how much better the best of the PT (whether you find it TPM or another one) is than ROTJ.. what an awful movie.
 
Snaku said:
Wow, the Target Indy 4 Blu-ray looks really nice. How much is to going for? I liked the film, definitely better than Temple of Doom, and I was going to hold off until they release all of them on Blu-ray. But that looks really nice.
$27.99
 
djkimothy said:
Ecranlarge.com has screen captures of 6 Bond films being released on Blu-ray. SNeak peak below. More at the link.

http://www.ecranlarge.com/article-details-9983.php

Has captures of menu and film. Although not confirmed, it's said to be region free.

I must say, I'm not that impressed. Images are 720p. Still, as a bond fan, may pick them up at a later date.

I think they look pretty good actually, the colors are wacky, but thats how movie were shot back then. Too much red.
 
Flo_Evans said:
Wow, there are actually people who liked Indy 4? I don't think I've ever walked into a theater so excited and left so utterly disappointed.
I have to echo these sentiments. However, I went in with low expectations, in the first 10 minutes got really excited at the prospect of X-files meets Indy and came away utterly disappointed.

This coming from someone who has been criticized for some of the movies I have purchased.
 
djkimothy said:
Ecranlarge.com has screen captures of 6 Bond films being released on Blu-ray. SNeak peak below. More at the link.

http://www.ecranlarge.com/article-details-9983.php

Has captures of menu and film. Although not confirmed, it's said to be region free.

I must say, I'm not that impressed. Images are 720p. Still, as a bond fan, may pick them up at a later date.

http://www.ecranlarge.com/upload/dvd/images/dvd6096/large_320165.jpg[IMG]

[IMG]http://www.ecranlarge.com/upload/dvd/images/dvd6098/large_319551.jpg[IMG]

[IMG]http://www.ecranlarge.com/upload/dvd/images/dvd6100/large_320208.jpg[MG]

[IMG]http://www.ecranlarge.com/upload/dvd/images/dvd6097/large_320185.jpg[IMG][/QUOTE]
I dont recall there being that many red stop signs in any of the Bond movies.
 
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